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GloryJoyeux:
I just don't like when people throw up random info as fact.

You are wrong that vast majority of families (plural), will be okay with that setup.

That your set up in the north can generate max of 5kwh daily, and in the south just average of 2kwh daily. So what do you mean by families (husband wife and kid/kids) will be satisfied with that set up.

Now for facts, the average home consumes 10kwh daily and the figure has been climbing for years as global warming increases the climate temperature.

I think the issue is that you should stop trying to portray solar as cheap, don't have the mindset that there is a budget for everyone no matter how little.

Solar is expensive and rightly so, because most people will even underestimate their consumption from the get go, so you even need to over size from the get go.

Have you seen a woman's energy consumption? Or that of kid's? As a guy, or spinster you can install something as bare as ur energy needs need, but you see your wife/partner and kids, they will never listen and turn on as much as they need each time they need it, just like they are on nepa.

So don't give false facts or false sense of solar is cheap.

HeavenlyBang:
Disagree on all counts. And in fact, I think you're vastly out of touch with the energy needs of the average Nigerian family.

You think the average Nigerian family is running a water heater? Or an air fryer? Or air conditioning? They aren't. Nigeria is an incredibly poor country and the median family would be satisfied with something that allows them watch TV, charge their phones, and keeps their fridge/freezer on, with the occasional use of a blender.

You speak from a position of privilege.

Valto:
Brand new 20ah 3.2v lifepo4 lithium battery with high rate 5C instantaneous discharge now available

dollarnaira:
Each time I see some comments of 24 or 48v I walked down to my treasured 12v system (14 yrs) and smile because it satisfies my needs. The only thing I don't do with it is cook. No be everybody won cook, run AC, boil water, etc.
Gloryjoyeux lives either in banana island or a well balanced environment where people don't carry bucket looking for where to fetch water or carry phones in search of where to charge, the list is on.

12V SYSTEM WILL SATISFIED THE ENERGY NEEDS OF MORE THAN 80% OF NIGERIANS.

N.B: 12v is good, 24 is better and 48v is best. Choose according to your energy needs. Truly na who get sense dey.....

Unfaized:
In that 14yrz how long have you been on Lithium battery?

GloryJoyeux:
Hi,

The sad part about solar people hardly talk about and for the one's that talk about it, people hardly listen.

It is a known fact, that energy consumption increases after solar installation. A simple online search will show many articles on this fact.

This is why it is recommended to, as a bare minimum start with 24v but if its possible just go 48v all out at once.

Solar is more expensive if you start on 12v or 24v and your energy demand increases so much that you may need 48v for efficiency. And then, if total load requires 36kw peak and above, then a higher voltage is even better. That's why most inverters above 20kw are HV inputs.

Solar can be cheap, if you get it right the first time. It can also be costly and take up more space per kwh if you undersized from the get go.

Cheers

GloryJoyeux:
I just don't like when people throw up random info as fact.

You are wrong that vast majority of families (plural), will be okay with that setup.

That your set up in the north can generate max of 5kwh daily, and in the south just average of 2kwh daily. So what do you mean by families (husband wife and kid/kids) will be satisfied with that set up.

Now for facts, the average home consumes 10kwh daily and the figure has been climbing for years as global warming increases the climate temperature.

I think the issue is that you should stop trying to portray solar as cheap, don't have the mindset that there is a budget for everyone no matter how little.

Solar is expensive and rightly so, because most people will even underestimate their consumption from the get go, so you even need to over size from the get go.

Have you seen a woman's energy consumption? Or that of kid's? As a guy, or spinster you can install something as bare as ur energy needs need, but you see your wife/partner and kids, they will never listen and turn on as much as they need each time they need it, just like they are on nepa.

So don't give false facts or false sense of solar is cheap.

fuckboys:
you’re just right, about 2 of them said same thing you just said.

I’ll just keep using the said system until I’m ready for a full system upgrade.

omotoda:
You are right with this as most people eventually upgrade from 12v to 48v eventually as power demands definitely increase over time and it is cheaper to have gone with much higher capacity at the initial stage.However,we must understand that fingers are not equal and economy is not smiling

bkuranga:
Boss, you were talking about how your system will give 24V a run for its money the other time.

Abi no be you?

What's the issue that make you to want to upgrade so soon?

Just trying to learn, bro. Because I already bought same components you have because of the confidence then.

bkuranga:
Boss, you were talking about how your system will give 24V a run for its money the other time.

Abi no be you?

What's the issue that make you to want to upgrade so soon?

Just trying to learn, bro. Because I already bought same components you have because of the confidence then.

Pbaelish:
Hello to everyone.pls is it possible and ok to use a 48v lithium battery with a 24v inverter,a friend said his installer said its ok. he was using 24v 400ah tubular before and just got 48v 5kwh lithium so i thought he will need to change inverter but he said the installers said no need. Appreciate your answers for clarification.

dollarnaira:
Fuckboys no wan try things out. At times life goes beyond energy.

GloryJoyeux:
Hi,

The sad part about solar people hardly talk about and for the one's that talk about it, people hardly listen.

It is a known fact, that energy consumption increases after solar installation. A simple online search will show many articles on this fact.

This is why it is recommended to, as a bare minimum start with 24v but if its possible just go 48v all out at once.

Solar is more expensive if you start on 12v or 24v and your energy demand increases so much that you may need 48v for efficiency. And then, if total load requires 36kw peak and above, then a higher voltage is even better. That's why most inverters above 20kw are HV inputs.

Solar can be cheap, if you get it right the first time. It can also be costly and take up more space per kwh if you undersized from the get go.

Cheers

omotoda:
True.My madam does not care whether we are on NEPA or solar,microwave on straight and you will hear freezer and fridge can't be off.I had to do a separate 5kva for fridge, freezer and microwave so my other house power needs do not suffer.However,all still co ones down to economic power.If one can invest in higher capacity at the on go,it's the best.Set up takes less space and is neater

dollarnaira:
"Energy need" and "upgrades" are relative. There is battery upgrade, inverter upgrade and pv upgrade of the same voltage.

Sometimes ago I was in great need of electric iron, I won't bc of it upgrade my voltage system bc it is never cheap like most of put it. I only got a 300w iron which am very satisfied with. Note too that technology is advancing and with time all energy guzzling appliances will run at incredibly low wattage. The competition is already in place.

I beg I dey find 500 to 800w electric jug. Naija is not smiling.


A 12v 4.2kwh system is roughly 1.4m

fuckboys:
I just wanna use Ac. The system is solid and serves all my needs.

favouredbymercy:
Check this on Jumia. 600watts, but its a 1.5litres Jug.

Valto:
available

dollarnaira:
Your ac is Inverter right?
If yes get a dedicated system for it as ac usage demand is weather dependent.

dollarnaira:
"Energy need" and "upgrades" are relative. There is battery upgrade, inverter upgrade and pv upgrade of the same voltage.

Sometimes ago I was in great need of electric iron, I won't bc of it upgrade my voltage system bc it is never cheap like most of put it. I only got a 300w iron which am very satisfied with. Note too that technology is advancing and with time all energy guzzling appliances will run at incredibly low wattage. The competition is already in place.

I beg I dey find 500 to 800w electric jug. Naija is not smiling.


A 12v 4.2kwh system is roughly 1.4m

dollarnaira:
Reason I like you guys so so much.
The person wey recommend dat trusted 300w electric iron thank you ooo.

Favouredmercy thanks big time. I will dig right away.

kuss:
Please ooo
Does anyone have experience about installing solar panels in Gowon estate
The roof is flat abestos roof

fuckboys:
yes, a 1hp inverter ac

Fremlin:
Abeg wetin be the iron name

fuckboys:
yes, a 1hp inverter ac

adrusa:
I have been on solar for more than 10 years and have been 99% dependent on solar for more than 4 years, yet my people have never learnt to conserve energy. 5KVa inverter will carry all my load but I got 7.5Kva becuase my people will turn on Kettle, Microwave and Toaster at the same time even when Water Heater is running in the morning.

With a fridge and freezer, TV, light, fan and phone charging, 10KWh consumption per family per day will be conservative. People tend to underestimate their power need when planning solar installation. Your power use will grow with solar or with constant NEPA.

Trippledots:
I must very lucky. Those in the house even know when to turn off the freezer when the weather is cloudy.