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Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct - Christianity Etc (3) - Nairaland

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Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 10:01pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
Come on you are being dumbino. I have answered you and now you have moved to food and power grin grin grin

The question wasn't what can kill but rather the primary objective of evil?

So now that I have answered you have moved to things not in issue so it's obvious you no get anything wey you wan say grin grin grin grin
Stay one place don't jump up and down, try to read your response first hmmm
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 10:03pm On Dec 23, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
I have already defended Him and I am waiting for your counter.

Instead you are repeating yourself and now added "nothing on earth happen without his notice" and resorted to attacking me (the fallacy of ad hominem) instead of the argument.

Clear, proof that even you know that you are talking rubbish because you know that like Esau, God has rejected you so in your pain you speak evil of Him. Another proof that you know all of you are Wrong
No mind the Dumbledore.

He thought he had asked hard questions that had no answers now na frustration and pain they wire am wella!
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 10:06pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
Stay one place don't jump up and down, try to read your response first hmmm
See person wey they jump up and down every time dey complain of up and down after e no get anything to talk again.

You need to check you head e be like say e don catch fayaaaa
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 10:11pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
See person wey they jump up and down every time dey complain of up and down after I e no get anything to talk again.

You need to check you head e be like say e don catch fayaaaa
The only thing you have as defence is to abuse me... I be Yoruba boy.. I will not give you that... It only a reasonable person that can reason beyond religion sentiment that can answer me... You can chech all my reply I never reply you with any foul language but you as a defender of God that want no one to defend him have make so much words on his behalf... Thank you for your engagement... The matter no be today
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by Dtruthspeaker: 10:15pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
No mind the Dumbledore.

He thought he had asked hard questions that had no answers now na frustration and pain they wire am wella!
Yes ooo. He taught because most church goers and Christians are not deep therefore no one could answer
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by Dtruthspeaker: 10:19pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
Are you Godhuh
Answer the question first
Which question did you ask? Or do you mean this present one of am I God?

If it is this one then
Psalm 25:14 answers
"The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him

And

John 14:21: "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him"..

And ,the mere fact that you do not have any reasonable counter against the argument rather than attacking me personally proves it.
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 7:03am On Dec 24, 2025
harjay1986:
The only thing you have as defence is to abuse me... I be Yoruba boy.. I will not give you that... It only a reasonable person that can reason beyond religion sentiment that can answer me... You can chech all my reply I never reply you with any foul language but you as a defender of God that want no one to defend him have make so much words on his behalf... Thank you for your engagement... The matter no be today
See painment grin grin grin


Good thing, the thread shows that you started the abuses and now you show you are a big liar when you say you never used any foul language.

So after you started it, you did not expect to collect back eh? Funny.

And then the thread further shows you are the unreasonable one for inspite of your jumping up and down from one question to another, and yet another and even again, and again ooooo, shifting post up and down, to the point of unreason, I still indulged you and answered all your questions.

And that after I had answered all your questions you even came to liedly accuse me of jumping up and down when the thread shows you were the one grasshopping up and down, now you are here complaining because it did not go your way. grin grin grin

You truly thought God had no defence and that no one can defend Him and that no one will.

I am happy to show you, you thought wrong and that you are without defence and that from today onwards you shall continue to wail for everywhere you go you shall be without defence nor help for you are a wike soul.
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by gohf: 9:25am On Dec 25, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
I knew his saying the word "specific reason" caught you but I did not know that you believed that Jesus did not come to die. Which explains why you agree with him.

Whereas, everything Jesus Taught, is exactly what the prophets taught also. So, if it is about teaching, then He need not come as, as He said in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man, "we have the prophets", so one more Prophet is not of much value.

But if you remember that The Law demanded sin offering, because of The Law of sin and guilt, you would now understand that Christ's main purpose and aim for coming which was different from the other prophets was to die to save mankind.

A fact which Lawyer Paul, took the pains of explaining in detail in Hebrew from chapter 4 to 9 and in other letters but you obviously did not get it
bro the good news is not that Jesus died but that Jesus rose from the dead

1Cor.15.14 - And if Christ was not raised, then all our preaching is useless, and your trust in God is useless.

1Cor.15.17 And if Christ has not been raised, then your faith is useless, and you are still under condemnation for your sins.

If you read all my responses and post you won't have said I agreed to what he said as if I agreed to all he said
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by Dtruthspeaker: 11:43am On Dec 25, 2025
gohf:
bro the good news is not that Jesus died but that Jesus rose from the dead..
There is no rising from the dead without the dying into the dead.

And the dying/rising would not have washed our sins and save us if The Law had not provided for the sacrifice of the remission of sins.
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by coolheaven: 11:08pm On Dec 25, 2025
Op said the TRUTH. The TRUTH is hard to accept.Jesus mission was not to die for mankind.He came(JESUS) to lead us back to God by giving us the TRUTH. FOR YE SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE U FREE.
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by gohf: 6:51am On Dec 26, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
There is no rising from the dead without the dying into the dead.

And the dying/rising would not have washed our sins and save us if The Law had not provided for the sacrifice of the remission of sins.
is all this to contradict what I wrote and probably prove your point that Jesus dying was the specific reason he came?
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by Dtruthspeaker: 6:56am On Dec 26, 2025
gohf:
is all this to contradict what I wrote and probably prove your point that Jesus dying was the specific reason he came?
Yes, it is. Clarity is Truth
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by chieveboy(m):
MaxInDHouse:
I have asked you this question before so i'll ask you again.

Do you trust the Bible 100% as inspired word of the one and only true God?
Define or rather explain this "inspired".

After you're done, there will be a composite demand for explaining Emperor Constantine and his Council since originally, there was nothing by way of existence or 'Toraic' injunction to manufacture a new book to be merged with the 'bible' of another religion called Judaism, given that the Torah tends to have precedence for some of these things which formed the authoritative basis for its adoption.

Yea because from where I stand, Mather, Luke, John, etc never consciously wrote their letters as contributions for a certain "Bible". They merely sent very people-specific letters. I also learnt there were several of such letters by people who followed Jesus like Polycarp, Thomas, etc which didnt make it way into the "inspiration". I wont ask you why for now.

I like to hear how this "inspiration" took place please. Thanks
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by budaatum: 7:54pm On Jan 22
Theawakensoul:
1️⃣ Jesus Was Murdered. Not Sent on a Suicide Mission
The idea that Jesus came specifically to die is a theological interpretation that developed later.
It is rather difficult for most to understand this.

Many can't possibly comprehend how much more valuable his teachings would have saved them if they hadn't stood there yelling "crucify him", and then absolve themselves by lying to themselves that it was their God's plan that they murder him. Yet, look at them with their sins that they still suffer the consequences of.

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