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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 11:34am On Dec 24, 2025
MorataFC:
If the penalty taker gets it right, no goalkeeper is truly good at saving penalties. A goalkeeper is often assumed or judged to be a strong penalty keeper simply because the taker got it wrong. While some goalkeepers are good at reading where the taker intends to place the ball, but it ultimately boils down to the taker’s execution, whether he gets it right or wrong.
As Pelé once said "only a badly taken penalty gets saved".

If the execution is right no keeper will save a pk, that's is why over 90% of pks is scored.
There are too many IFs in your analogy making it too overly simplistic. Some goal keepers are actually good at penalties while some are not. It's a skill/psychological issue. Petr Czech, Tim Krul, Dona, Sxchesny, Emi Martinez, Diego Alves, Kepa, are better penalty savers than Ter Stegen, Lloris, Raya, Ederson, Degea etc. The stats are there to back this up.

You also talked about execution and all that. The goal post is so big that some would wonder why players miss 1vs1 and penalties. If all players could execute(I.e score every chance including penalties), considering how large the goal post is, we'll be having cricket scorelines but it's not happening.

Check Diego Alves compilations on YouTube and see some of the penalties he removed even from angle 90°. If Martinez or Diego Alves was the GK for Palace or Arsenal yesterday, they would've saved 2 or 3 or force the takers to miss the target completely and the PK won't drag that long. Unsurprisingly, it's the team with the PK specialist(Kepa) who went through.

Same Kepa was also key(gave instructions to Lunin) when Madrid knocked out City in UCL via penalties.

Below was a penalty taken by Messi but Szney saved it. The still image doesn't do justice to the save and yeah, Messi isn't great at penalties but this was a well taken one that GKs like Llrios, Degea, Raya wouldn't get close to.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 12:33pm On Dec 24, 2025
timbros:
Translators needed please.

As you no get sense, make all of us crase together.

The "1 goal in 23 matches for Senegal" player has more AFCON goals than Osimhen.

The "60 chances missed before scoring one goal" player is the first to score a brace in AFCON2025.

Who go helps us translate please oo..

As na only you get twitter for your phone.
You don de drag airmark now, when he reply you or drag you, you go begin from IGNORANCE.

Anyways Jackson is cooking and is 100% better than Delap and JP.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Sportsweb: 12:36pm On Dec 24, 2025
AirBere:
There are too many IFs in your analogy making it too overly simplistic. Some goal keepers are actually good at penalties while some are not. It's a skill/psychological issue. Petr Czech, Tim Krul, Dona, Sxchesny, Emi Martinez, Diego Alves, Kepa, are better penalty savers than Ter Stegen, Lloris, Raya, Ederson, Degea etc. The stats are there to back this up.

You also talked about execution and all that. The goal post is so big that some would wonder why players miss 1vs1 and penalties. If all players could execute(I.e score every chance including penalties), considering how large the goal post is, we'll be having cricket scorelines but it's not happening.

Check Diego Alves compilations on YouTube and see some of the penalties he removed even from angle 90°. If Martinez or Diego Alves was the GK for Palace or Arsenal yesterday, they would've saved 2 or 3 or force the takers to miss the target completely and the PK won't drag that long. Unsurprisingly, it's the team with the PK specialist(Kepa) who went through.

Same Kepa was also key(gave instructions to Lunin) when Madrid knocked out City in UCL via penalties.

Below was a penalty taken by Messi but Szney saved it. The still image doesn't do justice to the save and yeah, Messi isn't great at penalties but this was a well taken one that GKs like Llrios, Degea, Raya wouldn't get close to.
You forgot to add tension and pressure.

Same Way a defender will feel pressure facing Messi, or Ronaldo or Neymar, same way a penalty taker will crumble under pressure taking a penalty against Emi Martinez knowing the demons can read your mind
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 12:51pm On Dec 24, 2025
airmark:
Shameless Timbros hyping his Jakujaku Jackson because of 2 goals against a 138th ranked team. Later when Senegalese fans start cursing the wasteful striker and his fans, he will start posting his usual one-liner -IGNORED grin
**yawns**

**ignored**

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 12:57pm On Dec 24, 2025
Sportsweb:
You don de drag airmark now, when he reply you or drag you, you go begin from IGNORANCE.

Anyways Jackson is cooking and is 100% better than Delap and JP.
When the translation dragging started BEFORE the kick of the ball, you were no where to be found oo.

You never cautioned him to wait make match finish first.

Anyway, I no even get your time sef.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:01pm On Dec 24, 2025
Only God know how many pages of dragging Jackson would have recieved here if he didn't perform well after that first one on one miss.

And you will be among them trollers. Now Jackson have disappointed you all and you remember say I dey claim ignorance.

Cry more bro.

If Jackson no play well, the floor is yours. But for now, cry harder.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:03pm On Dec 24, 2025
So the one liner dey pain you like this grin grin grin grin grin

You never see anything.

Feel free to quote or mention me. The one liner will always always always be your response grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Emaprince: 1:31pm On Dec 24, 2025
Wait na Jackson performance in afcon una dey rate like this?

He should use it to displace Kane from Bayern starting 11.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 1:39pm On Dec 24, 2025
Sportsweb:
You don de drag airmark now, when he reply you or drag you, you go begin from IGNORANCE.

Anyways Jackson is cooking and is 100% better than Delap and JP.
Jakujaku Jackson was chased away for both and never will he return to bench JP, who is better than him in front of goal.

We made the best decision by replacing Jackson at the CWC. With Timbros and his Jakujaku Jackson, we wouldn't have become the World champions.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 1:42pm On Dec 24, 2025
Emaprince:
Wait na Jackson performance in afcon una dey rate like this?

He should use it to displace Kane from Bayern starting 11.
Timbros is shameless. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:59pm On Dec 24, 2025
airmark:
Jakujaku Jackson was chased away for both and never will he return to bench JP, who is better than him in front of goal.

We made the best decision by replacing Jackson at the CWC. With Timbros and his Jakujaku Jackson, we wouldn't have become the World champions.
Ignored

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:59pm On Dec 24, 2025
airmark:
Timbros is shameless. grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 2:01pm On Dec 24, 2025
Emaprince:
Wait na Jackson performance in afcon una dey rate like this?

He should use it to displace Kane from Bayern starting 11.
Check how he was rated here just BEFORE the match.

Maybe then you will understand the hype AFTER the match.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by drisham(m): 2:20pm On Dec 24, 2025
Roland17:
No way am I taking any of those comments seriously.
Don't take them serious

Cos they are the exact monikers asking for maresca to be sacked in less than 2 yrs
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 2:37pm On Dec 24, 2025
timbros:
So the one liner dey pain you like this grin grin grin grin grin

You never see anything.

Feel free to quote or mention me. The one liner will always always always be your response grin grin grin
Pain me? How would your admission of L pain me? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 2:38pm On Dec 24, 2025
timbros:
Check how he was rated here just BEFORE the match.

Maybe then you will understand the hype AFTER the match.
grin
Jackson's solicitor.

So, it pains you when I expose your jakujaku Jackson.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by drisham(m): 2:46pm On Dec 24, 2025
Sportsweb:
You don de drag airmark now, when he reply you or drag you, you go begin from IGNORANCE.

Anyways Jackson is cooking and is 100% better than Delap and JP.
Jackson is not better than JP


But delap I agree.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by rooftops: 3:33pm On Dec 24, 2025
This burkinafaso Vs equatorial guinea match funny gan
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 3:34pm On Dec 24, 2025
Unlimited22:
Osimhen must have been cursed or maybe he used AFCON as his jazz for his career because I no understand.
Someone on Twitter say Osimehn na ECOWAS Haaland

For that comment, Trump suppose come invade Naija

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Odunharry(m): 3:35pm On Dec 24, 2025
Airmark baba you got mail
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 3:39pm On Dec 24, 2025
You need to see this before you think of having a soft-spot for man united as a Chelsea fan. If they have your sympathy then you are not a true Chelsea fan.



Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 4:02pm On Dec 24, 2025
AirBere:
There are too many IFs in your analogy making it too overly simplistic. Some goal keepers are actually good at penalties while some are not. It's a skill/psychological issue. Petr Czech, Tim Krul, Dona, Sxchesny, Emi Martinez, Diego Alves, Kepa, are better penalty savers than Ter Stegen, Lloris, Raya, Ederson, Degea etc. The stats are there to back this up.

You also talked about execution and all that. The goal post is so big that some would wonder why players miss 1vs1 and penalties. If all players could execute(I.e score every chance including penalties), considering how large the goal post is, we'll be having cricket scorelines but it's not happening.

Check Diego Alves compilations on YouTube and see some of the penalties he removed even from angle 90°. If Martinez or Diego Alves was the GK for Palace or Arsenal yesterday, they would've saved 2 or 3 or force the takers to miss the target completely and the PK won't drag that long. Unsurprisingly, it's the team with the PK specialist(Kepa) who went through.

Same Kepa was also key(gave instructions to Lunin) when Madrid knocked out City in UCL via penalties.

Below was a penalty taken by Messi but Szney saved it. The still image doesn't do justice to the save and yeah, Messi isn't great at penalties but this was a well taken one that GKs like Llrios, Degea, Raya wouldn't get close to.
The penalty kick is structurally engineered to favour the taker, not the goalkeeper.
You rarely see fans, coaches, or teammates blame a goalkeeper for conceding a pks goals but instead, criticism is almost always directed at the player who misses. This alone reflects the high probability of a penalty resulting in a goal.
Good penalty goalkeepers do exist, but their success is often dependent on poor execution by the taker. A perfectly struck penalty,placed into the side netting, with high velocity and optimal height, is unsaveable, regardless of the goalkeeper’s reputation.
You just help me reinforce my point when you mentioned Szczysny saving Messi’s penalty and then you concluded that “Messi isn’t good at penalties.” If you agree that a player is poor at penalties, how is that different from my assertion that a saved penalty is a result a poorly taken pk?
So my summation still stands and Pele quotes still valid:
"Only a badly taken pk gets saved".
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 4:03pm On Dec 24, 2025
Pep guardiola is ridiculous. This one will be hard to break with Maresca.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 4:06pm On Dec 24, 2025
Emaprince:
Wait na Jackson performance in afcon una dey rate like this?

He should use it to displace Kane from Bayern starting 11.
Make Una dey take ham easy, how many strikers in world football currently will bench Kane in the starting 11?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 4:12pm On Dec 24, 2025
popizaino:
Pep guardiola is ridiculous. This one will be hard to break with Maresca.
This should be across all competitions, because under Conte we already had a 13 match winning run in the Premier League.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 4:32pm On Dec 24, 2025
MorataFC:
This should be across all competitions, because under Conte we already had a 13 match winning run in the Premier League.
It would have been included if we had13 match winning streak.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 4:39pm On Dec 24, 2025
popizaino:
It would have been included if we had13 match winning streak.
I remember vividly that we had a 13 matches winning streak in the EPL and were on course for a 14 win before Tottenham defeated us 2–0, bringing the run to an end.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by rooftops: 4:43pm On Dec 24, 2025
MorataFC:
I remember vividly that we had a 13 matches winning streak in the EPL and were on course for a 14 win before Tottenham defeated us 2–0, bringing the run to an end.
Are you sure it is not unbeaten run, there might be a draw there
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by drisham(m): 5:01pm On Dec 24, 2025
popizaino:
Pep guardiola is ridiculous. This one will be hard to break with Maresca.
Where's conte 13 match win streak in the pl?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 5:02pm On Dec 24, 2025
MorataFC:
The penalty kick is structurally engineered to favour the taker, not the goalkeeper.
You rarely see fans, coaches, or teammates blame a goalkeeper for conceding a pks goals but instead, criticism is almost always directed at the player who misses. This alone reflects the high probability of a penalty resulting in a goal.

Good penalty goalkeepers do exist, but their success is often dependent on poor execution by the taker. A perfectly struck penalty,placed into the side netting, with high velocity and optimal height, is unsaveable, regardless of the goalkeeper’s reputation.
You just help me reinforce my point when you mentioned Szczysny saving Messi’s penalty and then you concluded that “Messi isn’t good at penalties.” If you agree that a player is poor at penalties, how is that different from my assertion that a saved penalty is a result a poorly taken pk?
So my summation still stands and Pele quotes still valid:
"Only a badly taken pk gets saved".
Baba why are you stating the obvious nah.
The emboldened is pretty obvious. It's a common knowledge that takers are always under more pressure than the goal keepers.

I used Messi because despite not being excellent at penalties, his record isn't that bad.

Now let's look at Ronaldo who is known for taking and scoring penalties. His record is among the best yet out of his 4 attempts Vs Diego Alves, he only scored once. Are you telling me that Ronaldo is bad at penalties because Alves stopped him from scoring 3 times out of 4 attempts? Or we can simply admire his skills at stopping PKs?

I reiterate, saving penalties is a skill and a psychological warfare that's why not all GKs are good at it. As a player you're more confident during penalties if Emi Martinez or Handanovic is ur GK compared to if Degea or Loris is ur GK.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Caicedobets(m): 5:07pm On Dec 24, 2025
drisham:
Where's conte 13 match win streak in the pl?
it's winning run on all competitions
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 5:49pm On Dec 24, 2025
lordfalcao:
He no also see Jackson wey he go use do content again
There is delap for content

I love his podcast ,but if he doesn’t start dragging one of those your yeye forwards soon like He did to Jackson ,then he is being biased
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