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Where are all these churches that use to preach, I want you to make heaven.

Where are they?
I hardly see them these days.

For them not to continue their heaven stories anymore it shows that there is something scamming about the stories that is not sustainable anymore.

Let's say the truth from the physical stand point of view. If you are enjoying your life spending your wealth lavishly, you are in your heaven.
If you are living in poverty, no food to chop in the morning, no hope of survival for the next day, you are in your hell fire.

There is nothing more than that

1 Corinthians 15:19: If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

Words of Jesus Christ on marble regarding Hell Fire

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

So Nigeria is not hell enough for you. You are still looking for another hell after living and suffering in Nigeria?

State of consciousness

paxonel:
Where are all these churches that use to preach, I want you to make heaven.

Where are they?
I hardly see them these days.

For them not to continue their heaven stories anymore it shows that there is something scamming about the stories that is not sustainable anymore.

Let's say the truth from the physical stand point of view. If you are enjoying your life spending your wealth lavishly, you are in your heaven.
If you are living in poverty, no food to chop in the morning, no hope of survival for the next day, you are in your hell fire.

There is nothing more than that

Your conscience is disturbing you ooo. Everytime you are always wailing and wailing about it despite all your deluyings.

You are in torment already

benodic:
So Nigeria is not hell enough for you. You are still looking for another hell after living and suffering in Nigeria?

Even if you are not looking for it, it is still there waiting

Hell fire people

benodic:
So Nigeria is not hell enough for you. You are still looking for another hell after living and suffering in Nigeria?

I think Nigerians will survive hell fire without much stress

What people don't know is that the road to heaven passes right through hell. You can not get to heaven without passing through hell. Once you pass through hell, you will start appreciating heaven.

obonujoker:
1 Corinthians 15:19: If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

Words of Jesus Christ on marble regarding Hell Fire

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

If Jesus was referring to hell fire in the above verses that you quoted, was Jesus saying that the body goes to hell fire?

Why would one have to cut his body parts since it is the soul or spirit that goes to hell fire?
What do the worms eat in hell fire?

Truthseeker10:
If Jesus was referring to hell fire in the above verses that you quoted, was Jesus saying that the body goes to hell fire?

Why would one have to cut his body parts since it is the soul or spirit that goes to hell fire?
What do the worms eat in hell fire?

The bible said that both body and soul of the lost shall be cast into the Lake of Fire after the white throne judgment, when they are all resurrected, but the Redeemed souls , their bodies shall be changed. Rev 19:20 ; Rev 20:14-15; Matt 10:28

When Jesus is saying cut off; He meant cut of the things that can make you go to hell, however important that stuff might be... Either from your hands, your legs or your eyes... Cut if off

obonujoker:
The bible said that both body and soul of the lost shall be cast into the Lake of Fire after the white throne judgment, when they are all resurrected, but the Redeemed souls , their bodies shall be changed. Rev 19:20 ; Rev 20:14-15; Matt 10:28

When Jesus is saying cut off; He meant cut of the things that can make you go to hell, however important that stuff might be... Either from your hands, your legs or your eyes... Cut if off

Are you saying that hell fire and lake of fire are the same?

Did Jesus mention lake of fire in the verses that you posted earlier?

Truthseeker10:
Are you saying that hell fire and lake of fire are the same?

Did Jesus mention lake of fire in the verses that you posted earlier?

Hell Fire and lake of fire are not the same. Hell Fire (Hades) is the holding prison for lost souls who didn't repent of their sins before they became deceased.

Hades is called hell Fire because of the torment there coupled with the fire that burns in it... The torment is hell.

Hades(Hell Fire) will also be cast into the Lake of Fire, which is the 2nd death.

Jesus talked about both Hell and lake of fire - check out the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man

obonujoker:
Hell Fire and lake of fire are not the same. Hell Fire (Hades) is the holding prison for lost souls who didn't repent of their sins before they became deceased.

Hades is called hell Fire because of the torment there coupled with the fire that burns in it... The torment is hell.

Hades(Hell Fire) will also be cast into the Lake of Fire, which is the 2nd death.

Jesus talked about both Hell and lake of fire - check out the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man

So in mark 9 and Matthew 10:28 that you quoted earlier.....where did Jesus mention lake of fire as the place where souls and body go to?

What are the worms eating in hell fire?

Truthseeker10:
So in mark 9 and Matthew 10:28 that you quoted earlier.....where did Jesus mention lake of fire as the place where souls and body go to?

What are the worms eating in hell fire?

Hell Fire is not physical bro... You should know this. It's a spiritual place that hold spiritual wicked and condemned souls and spirit... So the worms are spiritual. The Lord Jesus knows all these that's why He warned us.

At the final judgement, all of them ,will be brought out and resurrected and brought back to their earthly disgraced bodies, and if found wanting, cast into the Lake of Fire.... Just like the antichrist and false prophet

obonujoker:
Hell Fire is not physical bro... You should know this. It's a spiritual place that hold spiritual wicked and condemned souls and spirit... So the worms are spiritual. The Lord Jesus knows all these that's why He warned us.

At the final judgement, all of them ,will be brought out and resurrected and brought back to their earthly disgraced bodies, and if found wanting, cast into the Lake of Fire.... Just like the antichrist and false prophet

So you're telling me that bodies do not go to hell as against Matthew 10:28 and mark 9 that you quoted?

Truthseeker10:
So you're telling me that bodies do not go to hell as against Matthew 10:28 and mark 9 that you quoted?

Study to show thyself approved

Pick up the word , read it again and ask God for guidance.

My only advice for us is that we obey God

obonujoker:
Hell Fire is not physical bro... You should know this. It's a spiritual place that hold spiritual wicked and condemned souls and spirit... So the worms are spiritual. The Lord Jesus knows all these that's why He warned us.

At the final judgement, all of them ,will be brought out and resurrected and brought back to their earthly disgraced bodies, and if found wanting, cast into the Lake of Fire.... Just like the antichrist and false prophet

All these things you said signifies everlasting death and nothing more.
While those whose names were found written in the book of the Lamb have everlasting life.

The key interest here is
1. Everlasting life. John 3:16
And the other is the opposite which is :
2. Everlasting death or the second death which is called Lake of fire

It is not necessarily fire burning people.
It is just death, Everlasting death, the opposite of Everlasting life

Ask your Christian friends!🤣

obonujoker:
Study to show thyself approved

Pick up the word , read it again and ask God for guidance.

My only advice for us is that we obey God

You're a funny teacher.....after showing us scriptures that shows that bodies goes to hell, you are now changing mouth and saying that it is lake of fire that the bodies are going to. Are you Even sure of what you are teaching?