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wirinet:
The north does not receive more federal allocation than the south. After adding crude oil derivation, VAT and regular allocations, Delta, Rivers, Lagos, Akwa Ibom and Bayelsa states in the south receive more federal allocations thar all the northern states added together.
When if we add the lopsided number of Local governments, the South still receives more total allocations than the north. Remember the sharing formula is Federal 52.68%, States 26.72% and LGs at 20.60%.
The issue is not even about allocations, it's more a out the expenditure profiles of the 3 tiers of government which prioritize recurrent expenditure, which is the cost of running the government against cist of providing infrastructure, services and social amenities to the people. Very little of the allocations are actually spent to benefit the citizens.

This is an opinion and explanation. No facts no figures
You just explain explain explain

No evidence


WHAT DO3S THE NORTH CONTRIBUTE..?



That theory of priritzing recurrent over capital is ignorant rubbish
Just repeating what you heard
Salaries of teachers , police, doctors, nurses, soldiers, buying petrol for police vehicles paying electricity bills are recurrent expenditure

Stop parroing this mantra about recurrent without knowledge

Different states have different needs but health education security and the services you talk about are reliant 9n recurrent expenditure

Recurrent expenditure us not a sin
Capital expenditure us nota virtue

At any rate the claim is false almost every state now announces a budget with more capital than recurrent including this last one by Tinubu


I do not agree that is a virtue ir necessarily a good thing


Employing doctors teachers nurses police men is necessary and good

Maintaining existing infrastructure is too

lawani:
I believe there would still have been a civil war. The civil war was largely because the Gowon coup was not successful in the East. The Gowon government created a state for the eastern minorities and Ojukwu did not recognize it. That led to the civil war but even without that other things would have led to it

Yes, I agree with you — “other things” like the Igbos thinking they could dominate other tribes and pocket Nigeria for themselves alone. Gowon did the right thing by removing the then Eastern minorities from the shackles of Igbo dominance. Southern Cameroonians would have stayed and remained part of Nigeria but for the overbearing and oppressive nature of the Igbos. Ojukwu was a greedy, unintelligent man driven only by emotion.

wirinet:
The north does not receive more federal allocation than the south. After adding crude oil derivation, VAT and regular allocations, Delta, Rivers, Lagos, Akwa Ibom and Bayelsa states in the south receive more federal allocations thar all the northern states added together.
When if we add the lopsided number of Local governments, the South still receives more total allocations than the north. Remember the sharing formula is Federal 52.68%, States 26.72% and LGs at 20.60%.
The issue is not even about allocations, it's more a out the expenditure profiles of the 3 tiers of government which prioritize recurrent expenditure, which is the cost of running the government against cist of providing infrastructure, services and social amenities to the people. Very little of the allocations are actually spent to benefit the citizens.

The FAAC. allocations is a partial story
Receiving more is a ratio of what you contribute to what you receive

So you cannot sit down in Gombe contribute zero and tell us rubbish


If I contribute 20 and get 2
You contribute nothing and get 2 you are getting more


Also you need to include Local Government allocations and loan deduction for loans guaranteed by the Federal Government

aribisala0:
Ordinarily you don't deserve a response
But it is important to educate others

Awolowo advocated for a secession clause and Zik opposed him

Facts are stubborn

Eboes opposed secession because they believed they are smarter than everyone and would dominate

Nigeria I built on a NEGOTIATION

Your ancestors negotiated and rejected secession

The word they put in was INDISSOLUBLE

Meaning we die here

That was Ziks contribution

Don't blame Awolowo
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/04/27/flashback-why-i-opposed-awolowo-on-secession-zik/

The Iboe lies will not go unchallenged
So don't try to blackmail Yoruba

Every person speaks for himself as an individual

No one has ever won an election campaigning to leave Nigeria

I am neither igbo nor Yoruba but that Zik na monumental eediyat

Tenrack:
I am neither igbo nor Yoruba but that Zik na monumental eediyat

Let us be fair
Objectively
I may not agree with his position but it is not entirely unreasonable or crazy

Nigeria is not the only country with this idea on indissolubility e.g
Russia, China, USA have the same approach

He may have done it for selfish reasons or genuine nationalism who knows


My point is Eboes after him should not blame Yoruba or Awolowo for their predicament in Nigeria

We didn't bring them into Nigeria so they should stop blackmailing us about how to exit
When a sensible human being climbs a tall tree we advise him to exit the same way he got to the top if he chooses to jump instead he must face the consequences


We Yoruba don't know Eegboes before Nigeria we did not bring them into it
They signed an agreement and agiriment is agiriment

They all can pack and go to Jerusalem if they like

aribisala0:
Let us be fair
Objectively
I may not agree with his position but it is not entirely unreasonable or crazy

Nigeria is not the only country with this idea on indissolubility e.g
Russia, China, USA have the same approach

He may have done it for selfish reasons or genuine nationalism who knows


My point is Eboes after him should not blame Yoruba or Awolowo for their predicament in Nigeria

We didn't bring them into Nigeria so they should stop blackmailing us about how to exit
When a sensible human being climbs a tall tree we advise him to exit the same way he got to the top if he chooses to jump instead he must face the consequences


We Yoruba don't know Eegboes before Nigeria we did not bring them into it
They signed an agreement and agiriment is agiriment

They all can pack and go to Jerusalem if they like

well said bro. You're one of the sensible Yoruba men out there. Well said.

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Onlinetutor7:
When it was favourable to Igbos they decided Nigeria should remain one.

Now, it is favourable to Fulani's they have also decided for Nigeria to remain one.

Zik and Ironsi caused what we the Igbos are suffering today

lolz you are not only Igbo but Ojukwu yourself.😂🤣🤣

Predictor3:
His suggestion to include a secession clause in our constitution would have saved the East the bloodshed of the civil war, and would have made Nigeria as a single country extinct since.

As you can see, if you were wise and knowledgeable, Awo was smarter than Zik by light years

Na trash you cap.

It's only in Nigeria they claims opinion of one man is said to be bigger than two to three others.


Assuming the clam is true,why haven't you yorubas and Hausafulanis ruling Nigeria for over 50 years do the write thing.

The so called awo what was his actions in 1967 when it was time to do the right.

Goodmarlian:
Yoruba man so na now you know? Unfortunately it's too late, awolowo has blown the opportunity, nobody leaves the union without heavy bloodshed even igbos are not ready forget talk.

Southwest can leave anytime with zero bloodshed.

lawani:
Everybody will pay. Nobody can avoid it. It is good to start paying now in preparation for breakup which will eventually happen

Everybody is not paying....those who made law have NGO accounts and other tax exempt account to avoid paying.... Las las..na oppression and embezzlement strategy.....

We have oil, with small IGR now...they steal 80% of it, one person reportedly stole over 200 billion..
.....more tax will not be different...they will just steal more.,....so coming here to say it's good to pay is just a truckload of fallacy

lawani:
Nigeria was attacking Biafra from the North and the Midwest and west did not allow Nigerian soldiers to operate from their land. Col Ejoor clearly stated that he will not allow aggression against Biafra to pass through the Midwest. Awo made sure all Northern soldiers vacated the west.
Biafra should have focussed on the North and not on declaring the Midwest republic and invading Yoruba land. Even civilians in the Midwest attacked Biafran soldiers and to have expected the Yoruba to submit to 3000 Biafrans is rather strange. Again Awo was not against Biafra but was against the Biafrans colonizing the west. If you were him would you have submitted your land to Biafra? If you were the Midwesterners would you have done the same?

Any Yoruba fighting Biafra from the North. That was his business. There were Yorubas fighting for Biafra.

Still capping rub!bish.


So Nigeria soldiers of yorubas and Hausafulanis can choose a part to attack Eastern region, but Eastern soldiers can't fight back through region of those invading them.

Moreover your claims of Midwest not allowing Nigeria to attack Eastern region from there are lies.

Awolowo from the beginning of the war was part of Nigeria and fought against Biafra because of promise to make him Nigeria president by Northerners.

Biafra army didn't invaded anyone region, they fought back soldiers invading Eastern region from North and West.


Biafra army didn't start the war, they only defended themselves.



I asked you was Nigeria soldiers that invaded Eastern region Northern soldiers or Nigeria soldiers which yoruba soldiers was fully members?

I don't know why you can't give simple answer on the above question.

Predictor3:
The civil war would have been unnecessary if the ibos had listened to Awo. You wouldn't have lost all those souls

What is this one saying! You don't know the story of Nigeria civil war with this you're cook up story.

madridguy:
Alkali just want to rant for his followers to hail him If bank deduct your money, carry cutlass go fight them.

Thats if he is still using banks

aribisala0:
Ordinarily you don't deserve a response
But it is important to educate others

Awolowo advocated for a secession clause and Zik opposed him

Facts are stubborn

Eboes opposed secession because they believed they are smarter than everyone and would dominate

Nigeria I built on a NEGOTIATION

Your ancestors negotiated and rejected secession

The word they put in was INDISSOLUBLE

Meaning we die here

That was Ziks contribution

Don't blame Awolowo
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/04/27/flashback-why-i-opposed-awolowo-on-secession-zik/

The Iboe lies will not go unchallenged
So don't try to blackmail Yoruba

Every person speaks for himself as an individual

No one has ever won an election campaigning to leave Nigeria

May God forgive you
Zik is a hated man in Igbo land for uniting us with people who don't value human life
People with different Ideology.
You see this tax both north and south will pay.


All the time Igbos have been labelled as the enemies of both north and west for advocating for good leaders.
Nigerians will enjoy the fruit of their election
The sweet thing about this tax is that even yahoo boys ,content creators ,crypto wizards are all included .
Thank you Tinubu May You live long for dealing with the north who think Nigeria is their birthright

wirinet:
Then what of governance? Should governance not also be a social contract. Are you aware that most parts of the North do not experience any government presence at all? No schools, no water, so social amenities.

yes but do the northerners care ?


Nooo all they want is sharia
Their leaders poortify the masses with their Almajiri system
Is that our fault ?
No
Your people value religion and tribe of an individual more than what the person can offer or do

ChiefOloye:
Mumu talk. These people think like they're still in the year 1990, when there was no social media. Northern youths are wiser and divided by money. If yoday, any Islamic preacher is arrested for incitement, only him and his family will fight for freedom. Nobody will take to the streets for anyone.

lies the north we know is the problem of Nigeria
They don't join in protests against bad governance from their kinsman or Muslims in power

All I can say is 2026 is going to be prosperous for me and my family

123yes:
What is this one saying! You don't know the story of Nigeria civil war with this you're cook up story.

You are a baby

Chibuezem:
May God forgive you
Zik is a hated man in Igbo land for uniting us with people who don't value human life
People with different Ideology.
You see this tax both north and south will pay.


All the time Igbos have been labelled as the enemies of both north and west for advocating for good leaders.
Nigerians will enjoy the fruit of their election
The sweet thing about this tax is that even yahoo boys ,content creators ,crypto wizards are all included .
Thank you Tinubu May You live long for dealing with the north who think Nigeria is their birthright

Which good leaders did ibos advocate for? In the 60s you embraced the party of the fulanis to frustrate Awo, Zik a graduate decided to be a subordinate to Balewa, a non-graduate. In 1979 you voted Shagari against more competent people. In 2019 you voted Atiku, in 2023 you voted Obi, a man you all once cursed for doing nothing in Anambra.

Unless you want to call Jonathan a good leader. 😁

Tranquillity360:
Still capping rub!bish.


So Nigeria soldiers of yorubas and Hausafulanis can choose a part to attack Eastern region, but Eastern soldiers can't fight back through region of those invading them.

Moreover your claims of Midwest not allowing Nigeria to attack Eastern region from there are lies.

Awolowo from the beginning of the war was part of Nigeria and fought against Biafra because of promise to make him Nigeria president by Northerners.

Biafra army didn't invaded anyone region, they fought back soldiers invading Eastern region from North and West.


Biafra army didn't start the war, they only defended themselves.



I asked you was Nigeria soldiers that invaded Eastern region Northern soldiers or Nigeria soldiers which yoruba soldiers was fully members?

I don't know why you can't give simple answer on the above question.

You have nothing against Biafrans invading the Midwest and west when no aggression was coming against Biafra from there. I have nothing against those regions pushing back against Biafran invasion and subsequently entering Biafra to end the secession. If you choose to invade other people's land why are you surprised they drove you back? Wonders shall never end. Nigeria was never one nation and everybody consider their land sacred. You are the one capping rubbish. It is indeed very very naive to think the Biafrans would control Yoruba land with 3k soldiers. Back then Ibadan was many times bigger than Lagos and there were still other cities

Gbam... Supported.. he should keep it in South West

Nne ya....... Lol

Zionmdde:
Lies!!!
We must pay the tax
Tinubu tax us more!!!!
Jagaban tax the air we Breath biko. #50 for 3 hours breathing

Anybody who evades this new tax should be arrested and made to face the full wrath of the law

Shebi north knows how to vote for the worst presidential candidates

Onye gba oso
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Chibuezem:
May God forgive you
Zik is a hated man in Igbo land for uniting us with people who don't value human life
People with different Ideology.
You see this tax both north and south will pay.


All the time Igbos have been labelled as the enemies of both north and west for advocating for good leaders.
Nigerians will enjoy the fruit of their election
The sweet thing about this tax is that even yahoo boys ,content creators ,crypto wizards are all included .
Thank you Tinubu May You live long for dealing with the north who think Nigeria is their birthright

Zik was not hated in Eboe land when he was alive

Ask your ancestors
He won every election and was a figure like Buhari in terms of popularity
One thing Eboes pass on from generation to generation is the ability to tell ridiculous lies
In 1979 after the war there were two Iboe states his party NPP won them Imo and Anambra
He cleared every single seat federal and state so what hate?)

So even AFTER the war Zik was loved over Ojukwu who came back contested election and was defeated by an UNKNOWN person for Nnewi Senatorial election

Goodmarlian:
But the same awolowo was against the civil war whose aim was to break the same Nigeria he never wanted as a single entity isnt that double standards forget he is a hypocrite.

Apoda! A patriot defends what's in the Constitution even if he was against the provision at the formulation stage.

To enact a constitution, provisions are proposed, discussed, negotiated, amended and adopted. Once that's done, the adopted version becomes a binding legal instrument on all parties, irrespective of your stance during its creation. However, you can lobby for amendments in the legislature, not go to war.

Awolowo defended the Constitution he helped create even though he was not solely responsible for its rigid clauses.

Let the illiterate man continue to deceive his fellow illiterate followers. Their governors and National Assembly members and others will make sure they over-comply! The silly goat must be thinking taxes like these new burdens carefully packaged are paid to door-to-door tax agents (thugs).

I like the way things are goiyvery soon political office holders and elites will be beaten up were ever the masses catches them since they support everything me president ditched out and the national assembly will give a nod whether right or wrong, Nigeria is a great mess in this administration. Let only the west pay the tax rubb!sh

MrColdsweat:
I see the people angrily going after the senators and lawmakers.

Ferebiekunake:
Apoda! A patriot defends what's in the Constitution even if he was against the provision at the formulation stage.

To enact a constitution, provisions are proposed, discussed, negotiated, amended and adopted. Once that's done, the adopted version becomes a binding legal instrument on all parties, irrespective of your stance during its creation. However, you can lobby for amendments in the legislature, not go to war.

Awolowo defended the Constitution he helped create even though he was not solely responsible for its rigid clauses.

You are talking to lawless folks who will never accept that the declaration of Biafra, that caused a civil war most punitive to them, was unconstitutional and act of treason courtesy of Nnamdi Azikiwe.

Awolowo , as a law-abiding leader with respect for the rule of law all fit and proper leaders must host in the soul, has no choice other than to do the needful.

Look at how they all defend Kanu as "innocent" to see the personification of clan lawlessness.

aribisala0:
Zik was not hated in Eboe land when he was alive

Ask your ancestors
He won every election and was a figure like Buhari in terms of popularity
One thing Eboes pass on from generation to generation is the ability to tell ridiculous lies
In 1979 after the war there were two Iboe states his party NPP won them Imo and Anambra
He cleared every single seat federal and state so what hate?)

So even AFTER the war Zik was loved over Ojukwu who came back contested election and was defeated by an UNKNOWN person for Nnewi Senatorial election

it's Igbo not whatever you are saying
Do not mention me again if you misquote it
Also all you've mentioned above shows you are ignorant
Tinubu won the election right ? Does it show that Igbos are happy with him ?

The average northerner is more informed about real politics and current affairs than southerner who are still preoccupied with tribal bashing and pre-civil war debates.

Predictor3:
Which good leaders did ibos advocate for? In the 60s you embraced the party of the fulanis to frustrate Awo, Zik a graduate decided to be a subordinate to Balewa, a non-graduate. In 1979 you voted Shagari against more competent people. In 2019 you voted Atiku, in 2023 you voted Obi, a man you all once cursed for doing nothing in Anambra.

Unless you want to call Jonathan a good leader. 😁

did you bring up evidence of who Igbos voted for ?
Did you consider their opponents?

Chibuezem:
it's Igbo not whatever you are saying
Do not mention me again if you misquote it
Also all you've mentioned above shows you are ignorant
Tinubu won the election right ? Does it show that Igbos are happy with him ?

Tinubu did not win election in Eegboe land what is the comparison with Zik or what I said?
Zik did not win the election

I am talking exclusively about Eegboe land and the claim Eegboes hated him

In Eegboe land he is the only person that ever was a godfather politically installing all the governors and legislations
So he not only got the kind of votes Peter Obi got but installed Sam Mbakwe and Jim Nwobodo

This was AFTER the war

So how can you tell us he was hated?

Stop lying to yourself

He was loved and is the most loved and most successful Eegboe politician EVER