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| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Expanse2020(m): 1:54pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
doffman:IslamVIRGINS As 1 have one wife now am sure I Will be expecting the 100 folds since I follow Jesus in his teaching... If God come bless me and I have 4wives hopes no be 400 wives am entitled to in heaven like this... Chaii enjoyment yafun yafun Enjoyment berekete Jesu koredale But it shame that you won't have any benefits because you have deviate from Jesus teaching... |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by AntiisIam(m): 2:10pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
doffman:Sule gba again
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| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by AntiisIam(m): 2:12pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
doffman:Sule sebi you see Sahih al-bukhari 4376? Abi kini yen ti pada si e lara nii You use to do what according to the Hadith? Shey till now are you not still doing that tin? Bobo, think before typing ooo, opolo wa koni lo
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| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Antiislaam(m): 2:18pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
doffman:Sulele ara Libya
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| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Antiislaam(m): 2:26pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
dofman:Ahahahaha see ara Libya that want to expose his master ![]() |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Qasim6(m): 2:29pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
SIRTee15:I can choose and pick whatever from scholars work, there is a reason I'm an intelligent being. The majority consensus is that only 7 letters of Paul in the whole of the new testament truly reflect the author, I look at the evidence they present to reach that conclusion and it makes lot of sense to me. How they now managed to conclude the apostles also preached a crucified Messiah whose death now nullified the mosaic law with the scuffle we see in Paul's letter is what I don't seem to get. Following all they say blindly is what makes it a blind following thus a blind faith. It is obvious there was at least 2 strain of Christianity right from the early stages The Pauline Christian that believes with the death and resurrection of Christ, Mosaic law is no more valid. The Jamesonian that seems to disagree with Paul. Now by the 2nd century we see a Jewish Christian group that still cling to the mosaic law, hold James in high status, reject Paul and his letters and we are supposed to believe they don't have anything to do with the early Jerusalem church? Abeg say something else. That doesn't look like a belief from later development, that is a belief deeply rooted in the early Jerusalem church. And yes the Ebionites used a certain version of Gospel of Matthew also called gospel of the Ebionites. Acts of Paul is just a smooth over to make us think everything was good between Paul and the Apostles that it was just minor scuffle here and there when letters of Paul scream otherwise. According to Paul some other people are in Corinth preaching another gospel thereby causing division and these other people are with letter of recommendation which he did not have, which makes me wonder why was he without letter of recommendation from James? There are other sources outside of the new testament that implies Jesus instructed everyone has to report to James. |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Antiislaam(m): 2:29pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
dofman:Sule oshey Anti-catholic, bami ma expose awon guyz yen jare Even Ibrahim ati Ishmael never been to mecca, talo wa mule fun yin bayi ni Islam? Anobi e Muomo must be DJ YK ![]()
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| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Qasim6(m): 2:31pm On Dec 28, 2025*. Modified: 6:49am On Dec 29, 2025 |
SIRTee15:You are not going to be allowed to impose your forceful trinitarian understanding of the tanakh here. It is evident in the tanakh that created being or a messenger can represent God such that they are addressed as God without being God. When God says "My name is in him" it only implies the Angel carries the presence and authority of God and it doesn't in any way implies the Angel carries his divinity. There are several verses that implies God can not be seen, no one can see God and live.... this Angel of the lord was seen by many, so this Angel allows God to remain invisible and transcendent while still interacting directly with humanity through a visible being. The Angel was God in authority not in identity. |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Antiislaam(m): 2:31pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
dofman:Sule, na because Christmas is in town dem give you this enough time to use your phone Emi sha kuku mo wipe dey will soon send you back to where you come from lobatan |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Antiislaam(m): 2:32pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
dofman:Ijaya ara Libya ![]() |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by IslamVIRGINS(f): 2:37pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Expanse2020:Prophet said he will give you power of 100 men on top a single lady in paradise. Did you understand what that means? |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by IslamVIRGINS(f): 2:43pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Expanse2020:Which question? Are you also on repeatition mode like your second that will repeat already answered question over and over again! |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Qasim6(m): 2:43pm On Dec 28, 2025*. Modified: 8:06am On Dec 29, 2025 |
SIRTee15:The fact that I have come to that understanding of the new testament does not mean I am looking for what is not lost it is just majorly due to my inquisitive mind on why any intelligent being will believe in the absurdity 'God is 3 in 1' when scripture is screaming otherwise. The fact still remains all the authors of the canonical gospels are anonymous and non of them is an eye witness. The truth of Islam buries all those made-up agendas and false rhetorics. SIRTee15:Please, I don't really care what the belief of 2nd temple Judaism was, in as much as it is not grounded in the scripture. A belief that was held at a time when there was drought of Prophets. Why did they not hold that belief at the time of Moses? We have verses like ".....Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me" Isaiah 43:10 “.....I am the LORD, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself, Isaiah 44:24 And several other verses like that stressing the oneness of God. I don't know where this false teaching of 2 powers in heaven is coming from. SIRTee15:What evidence? Is there any evidence outside Paul's letter? Or Paul's letter is what are calling evidence? SIRTee15:There is no evidence for this not to talk of a clear cut one The only evidence they pointed at was Papias described a gospel Mark wrote which is somehow different from the canonical Mark because he said that particular gospel was not in order. SIRTee15:Insha Allah I will be back to bury you and the Christian liar that claimed he was the one writing for the prophet. Nevertheless, I love how you neglect the part where the earth kept rejecting his corpse when he died. |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by IslamVIRGINS(f): 2:45pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
doffman:Is there anywhere God promise people in Bible to be rewarded with anything girls in paradise thereby giving them power of 100 men just because of one girl? |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Antiislaam(m): 4:31pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
Sule doffman dofman You no say allah was a Muslim, you too his sl ave is a Muslim, o ma difficult to know what Christianity is, infact you can't know what Christianity is since you are of the opinion that Jesus Christ is not a Christian Omi eran ANTI-CATHOLIC, I'm just happy seeing your exposing those people in catholic. We lecture these people that the statue dey are bowing for as you in Islam are bowing for kaaba is an act of idolatry. Please, DON'T STOP EXPOSING DEM IN CATHOLIC dakun sogbo Na stone dey erase sin in Islam |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Expanse2020(m): 7:59pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
IslamVIRGINS:Ehen in which book they wrote that one ... Is it that one also in the bible |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Expanse2020(m): 8:01pm On Dec 28, 2025 |
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| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Qasim6(m): 8:37pm On Dec 28, 2025*. Modified: 7:17am On Dec 29, 2025 |
@SIRTee15 Ok let's see if your friend was truly the source of the Qur'an. The Qur'an was revealed over 23 years, the chapters were not revealed chronologically, even verses within chapters were not chronologically. There are verses that are answers to questions been asked the prophet, there are verses that are prophecies, verses that are admonitions, stories of previous prophets with lessons to be learnt from them, even verses that you guys always used to prove Prophet Muhammad was just making up the text of the Qur'an to please himself (like that of Zaid/Zaynab) and so on and so on. It was just the Prophet giving directions through divine guidance on which verses belong to which chapter. Out of that randomness, this is just one of the things we've just found out in modern times. Certain Words are repeated in equal number of times as their antonyms and it is not because they are mention along side each other. Al-Dunya (Worldly Life): 115 Al-Akhirah (The Hereafter): 115 Malaika (Angels): 88 Shayatin (Devils): 88 Al-Hayat (Life): 145 Al-Mawt (Death): 145 Al-Rajul (Man): 24 Al-Mar’ah (Woman): 24 Al-Harr (Heat): 4 Al-Bard (Cold): 4 Al-Salihat (Good Deeds): 167 Al-Sayyi’at (Bad Deeds): 167 and so on and so on There are also concept related balance, word like Zakat(Alms) and Barakah(blessing), Calamity (Al-mushibah) and gratitude(Al shukr) .... having balance counts. It doesn't end there, even words like day(365) days(30), month(12) It seems the author even know the ratio of water to land on earth. Sea(32), land(13), if you do the calculation you get roughly 71% to 29% You will agree with me this is not coincidental, this is intentional such that you can clearly see what the author was doing. It is as though the author already know the last word to be revealed even before the first word "read" was revealed. For one random Christian liar to now claim he was the one behind the Qur'an, you will agree with me he's a terrible liar and he surely deserve that ending. And it seems spreading lies about the prophet have serious consequences. May we not have bad ending like this your Christian friend. |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Antiislaam(m): 3:45am On Dec 29, 2025 |
Expanse2020:Sule, shey you can't comprehend again nii? I said o ma difficult fun e to know what Christianity is all about. Mi ni you can't know what Christianity is nigbati o je wipe you said Jesus Christ is NOT a Christian. Omi eran, can you fellow yourself on nairaland for nagging that Jesus Christ is not a Christian? Iwo ati allah e ni Muslim, you kuku know say allah prayed for your anobi, imagine allah praying for muomo |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by MotiVVaTTi: 4:18am On Dec 29, 2025 |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by Expanse2020(m): 10:03am On Dec 29, 2025 |
Antiislaam:Show us the evidence from your bible that Jesu is a Christian or his disciples are Christians... That is what we asked leave the abuse and rebuke besides |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by doffman: 10:38am On Dec 29, 2025 |
AntiisIam:Pagan , why are you repeating same thing again ahaaa. I have automatically set you into repetition like your sister is Pauline religion 😀😀 Christian without lies, they can never promote their fake religion 😀
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| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by doffman: 10:48am On Dec 29, 2025 |
Expanse2020:🤣She no fit o . She can only cover her shame by repeating same thing over and over . Even any of pastor can never ; after all they all confessed that Jesus never preach Christianity. Which bible. A they now preach us bayii 🤷🏼♂️. Nah only one question I throw to her ooo and Gbam she was set into auto repetition 😀. Even Satan will be laughing at them . I just pity her soul ooo. |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by doffman: 10:51am On Dec 29, 2025 |
IslamVIRGINS:So shameful for you 😀😀😀. This is the question : Show me from your bible , a single verse where Jesus told you that your man made bible is the book of your religion and you should follow it. After all; you guys preached from it nah ? 🥷🤣 |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 10:52am On Dec 29, 2025 |
doffman:Hahaha.. Only God was worshipped in the old testament according to this pagan clown but when I showed him evidence of other person worshipped, he quickly changed mouth n said old testament is corrupt. That's the final destination of all these clueless dawah, once they get stuck they start shouting bible is corrupt. Let me show u where Abraham bowed down to persons other than the Father in the old testament. Genesis 18 The Lord appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. 2 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground. I will repeat Joshua because u deliberately ignored it since u don't have an answer. 14 “Neither,” he replied, “but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.” Then Joshua fell facedown to the ground in worship, and asked him, “What message does my Lord have for his servant?” Your wuruwuru to the answer won't work here. What u should show us is where any prophet of God bowed before a stone for any reason. Show us if God instructed any prophet of God to bow before a stone during worship. Failure to give evidence proves u are a pagan. |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 10:57am On Dec 29, 2025 |
doffman:Matthew 24 14 Jesus said 'and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.' Mathew 26.13 Truly I tell you, wherever this gospel is preached throughout the world, what she has done will also be told, in memory of her.” |
| Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTeee15: 11:08am On Dec 29, 2025 |
doffman:Pagan clown shouting contradiction in the book of Mathew. Jesus was worshipped all through the New testament up to Revelation. People bowed down to Jesus because he's the Son of Allah. What we should ask is where did u get the idea of bowing before a stone. I showed u in the old testament where persons apart from the Father is worshipped. I showed u in the old testament where Abraham, Moses and other prophets called other persons apart from the Father God. U can shout corruption all u like that's your business. But show me where any prophet in the old testament bow done before a stone. Show me where Noah, Abraham or Moses bowed before a stone. Show me any verse where God commanded any prophet to bow before a stone. because what we have is explicit command where God clearly condemned bowing before a stone. Lev 26 “‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God. Deut 16 22 and do not erect a sacred stone, for these the Lord your God hates. Failure to show this removes any doubt u are a pagan. |
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