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Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Validated: 2:55pm On Jan 01
Burob:
The ADC an organization of strange bedfellows, imagine Aregbesola, Amaechi, Atiku , Obi, David Mark & co working together?

I suspect Aregbesola & Amaechi are amongst the APC spies in their midst.
Point of correction, aside Aregbesola the rest were in PDP together for 8 - 12 years of PDP. Even ElRufai.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 2:57pm On Jan 01
Validated:
Point of correction, aside Aregbesola the rest were in PDP together for 8 - 12 years of PDP. Even ElRufai.
Ok, so El Rufai will gladly work with Gringory Obi to remove his friend Tinubu from power?

What will gringory offer him, that Tinubu couldn’t give him?
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by jmoore(m): 2:58pm On Jan 01
Burob:
New trick to save N50 Naira, 50 naira fit buy tom tom?
50 naira from (10,000 naira) from 50,000 people a day is 2.5 million naira.
In a year, that's 912.5 million naira.

Tinubu go use the 912.5 million naira buy tom tom?
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 3:01pm On Jan 01
jmoore:
50 naira from (10,000 naira) from 50,000 people a day is 2.5 million naira.
In a year, that's 912.5 million naira.

Tinubu go use the 912.5 million naira buy tom tom?
From your 50 Naira that you short changed your country abi?

Yet na you go they complain of criminality against others, if you can perpetrate this kind of criminality in low places, one cannot imagine what u will do in a position of affluence?
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by jmoore(m): 3:02pm On Jan 01
Burob:
From your 50 Naira that you short changed your country abi?

Yet na you go they complain of criminality against others, if you can perpetrate this kind of criminality in low places, one cannot imagine what u will do in a position of affluence?
So transferring 9,999 naira is a crime?
All these Tinubu students.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 3:05pm On Jan 01
jmoore:
So transferring 9,999 naira is a crime?
All these Tinubu students.
Una and criminality, the same people that will be pointing fingers accusing others of being criminals.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by overall90: 3:11pm On Jan 01
If only INEC and yakubu has done the right thing during the last election,we won't be here listening to rubbish
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by akpumping7720(op): 3:20pm On Jan 01
jmoore:
You go explain tire. Cos na babablu you dey pour everywhere.


When Igbo people supported Obasanjo, it wasn't alignment?
When Igbo people supported Yar Adia, it wasn't alignment?
Even in 2019, when Igbo people supported Atiku, it wasn't alignment?

Enyi a, zuo ike.

All you have written no get isi or ọdụ.
I will really appreciate it if you can calm down.

No one is disputing whether you supported candidates from other regions or not. However, this is what people truly mean when they describe your style of politics as nzogbu nzogbu. You supported Atiku Abubakar and Umaru Musa Yar’Adua from the North—but you supported them strictly as individuals. At that time, they were simply the Northern candidates presented to you.
The problem arose after their tenures. Suddenly, your supporters began referring to Northerners as animals, illiterates, and other unprintable names. Put yourself in their position: how would you feel if your entire ethnic group were constantly insulted and denigrated simply because of a change in political alignment?

You also supported Obasanjo, which is perfectly fine. But what happened when Tinubu entered the presidential race in 2023? Look at the barrage of insults and unprintable names directed at elders and clerics who openly supported him. There is a clear difference between opposing or criticising an individual politician and extending that hostility to his entire ethnic group. The latter is unacceptable.
When someone attacks your brother, you may choose to respond or ignore it. But when your entire family is attacked, you will naturally defend them with everything you have. That is human nature.

Consider the tenure of President Goodluck Jonathan. He faced severe criticism and humiliation from South-Western opposition figures. Yet, did anyone resort to consistently abusing his entire ethnic group or publicly insulting his elders without restraint?
The moment you begin to blame and insult an entire tribe because of the perceived failure of one individual, your argument loses credibility. Anyone who does that is not being courageous—they are simply being cowardly.


And finally on this note; don't expect Obi to see those numbers of votes he garnered in 2023 election in 2027. Ireee ooooo.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by jmoore(m): 3:29pm On Jan 01
akpumping7720:
I will really appreciate it if you can calm down.

No one is disputing whether you supported candidates from other regions or not. However, this is what people truly mean when they describe your style of politics as nzogbu nzogbu. You supported Atiku Abubakar and Umaru Musa Yar’Adua from the North—but you supported them strictly as individuals. At that time, they were simply the Northern candidates presented to you.
The problem arose after their tenures. Suddenly, your supporters began referring to Northerners as animals, illiterates, and other unprintable names. Put yourself in their position: how would you feel if your entire ethnic group were constantly insulted and denigrated simply because of a change in political alignment?

You also supported Obasanjo, which is perfectly fine. But what happened when Tinubu entered the presidential race in 2023? Look at the barrage of insults and unprintable names directed at elders and clerics who openly supported him. There is a clear difference between opposing or criticising an individual politician and extending that hostility to his entire ethnic group. The latter is unacceptable.
When someone attacks your brother, you may choose to respond or ignore it. But when your entire family is attacked, you will naturally defend them with everything you have. That is human nature.

Consider the tenure of President Goodluck Jonathan. He faced severe criticism and humiliation from South-Western opposition figures. Yet, did anyone resort to consistently abusing his entire ethnic group or publicly insulting his elders without restraint?
The moment you begin to blame and insult an entire tribe because of the perceived failure of one individual, your argument loses credibility. Anyone who does that is not being courageous—they are simply being cowardly.


And finally on this note; don't expect Obi to see those numbers of votes he garnered in 2023 election in 2027. Ireee ooooo.
I didn't read the whole babablu.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by yemre: 3:34pm On Jan 01
One cold bottle for you on the last paragraph especially!

I've always told people on this platform that this presidency thing is not something you group yourself today and claim you want to wrestle power tomorrow just because you believe you have the numbers, it's not going to happen in one night.

Tinubu being a president in 2023 did not start working on it in 2022. This is a negotiation he started as far back as 2013/2014 before Buhari became president and that's one of the leverages that brought Buhari into power.

If the easterners truly wants this position, the time to start is now and their chance is 2039 (provided they're willing to endure the long journey)!

They must accept the fact that the flight for 2027 presidency has long taken off but they can start the negotiation for 2039 slot now so they will be well positioned to take over from the North after their own 8 year tenor.

Anything outside this is mere exercise in futility. But the only issue I always have with them is that any exercise that's not benefiting them right now, they're not interested. And as a result, they have a very long way to go.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by akpumping7720(op): 3:41pm On Jan 01
yemre:
One cold bottle for you on the last paragraph especially!

I've always told people on this platform that this presidency thing is not something you group yourself today and claim you want to wrestle power tomorrow just because you believe you have the numbers, it's not going to happen in one night.

Tinubu being a president in 2023 did not start working on it in 2022. This is a negotiation he started as far back as 2013/2014 before Buhari became president and that's one of the leverages that brought Buhari into power.

If the easterners truly wants this position, the time to start is now and their chance is 2039 (provided they're willing to endure the long journey)!

They must accept the fact that the flight for 2027 presidency has long taken off but they can start the negotiation for 2039 slot now so they will be well positioned to take over from the North after their own 8 year tenor.

Anything outside this is mere exercise in futility. But the only issue I always have with them is that any exercise that's not benefiting them right now, they're not interested. And as a result, they have a very long way to go.
The average igbo man believes in what he stands to gain now now. Nothing concerns him with tomorrow.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Validated: 3:46pm On Jan 01
Burob:
Ok, so El Rufai will gladly work with Gringory Obi to remove his friend Tinubu from power?
What will gringory offer him, that Tinubu couldn’t give him?
Tinubu betrayed ElRufai 💔 after the latter SINGLE-HANDEDLY handed him the APC ticket.
Go and check, it was ElRufai that stood up against Buhari. He gathered 5 northern governors to help Tinubu get APC ticket against Buhari backed Amaechi.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by yemre: 3:50pm On Jan 01
akpumping7720:
I will really appreciate it if you can calm down.

No one is disputing whether you supported candidates from other regions or not. However, this is what people truly mean when they describe your style of politics as nzogbu nzogbu. You supported Atiku Abubakar and Umaru Musa Yar’Adua from the North—but you supported them strictly as individuals. At that time, they were simply the Northern candidates presented to you.
The problem arose after their tenures. Suddenly, your supporters began referring to Northerners as animals, illiterates, and other unprintable names. Put yourself in their position: how would you feel if your entire ethnic group were constantly insulted and denigrated simply because of a change in political alignment?

You also supported Obasanjo, which is perfectly fine. But what happened when Tinubu entered the presidential race in 2023? Look at the barrage of insults and unprintable names directed at elders and clerics who openly supported him. There is a clear difference between opposing or criticising an individual politician and extending that hostility to his entire ethnic group. The latter is unacceptable.
When someone attacks your brother, you may choose to respond or ignore it. But when your entire family is attacked, you will naturally defend them with everything you have. That is human nature.

Consider the tenure of President Goodluck Jonathan. He faced severe criticism and humiliation from South-Western opposition figures. Yet, did anyone resort to consistently abusing his entire ethnic group or publicly insulting his elders without restraint?
The moment you begin to blame and insult an entire tribe because of the perceived failure of one individual, your argument loses credibility. Anyone who does that is not being courageous—they are simply being cowardly.


And finally on this note; don't expect Obi to see those numbers of votes he garnered in 2023 election in 2027. Ireee ooooo.
I agree 💯.

This is the reason I always frown at Peter Obi and the leadership of the obidients movement for turning a blind eye on all these things without cautioning them and letting them know the long-term consequences of all these attacks. Up until this moment, even on this platform, just have an argument with an average obidient, he must insult you just because your own opinion doesn't align with his.

Also, your last paragraph is on point because what he got in 2023 was sympathy votes but people are wiser and can now see clearly. He will struggle to see half of that number in the next election, that is if he's fortunate enough to be on the ballot because the odds are against him at the moment after aligning with the party that has Alh. Atiku Abubakar as the lead contestant.

Lastly, I don't see Peter Obi becoming a president in this country if he fails to register his own party and call the shots from there. Being a tenant in other parties will not help him because the founders of those parties have their own ambitions.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by akpumping7720(op): 3:59pm On Jan 01
yemre:
I agree 💯.

This is the reason I always frown at Peter Obi and the leadership of the obidients movement for turning a blind eye on all these things without cautioning them and letting them know the long-term consequences of all these attacks. Up until this moment, even on this platform, just have an argument with an average obidient, he must insult you just because your own opinion doesn't align with his.

Also, your last paragraph is on point because what he got in 2023 was sympathy votes but people are wiser and can now see clearly. He will struggle to see half of that number in the next election, that is if he's fortunate enough to be on the ballot because the odds are against him at the moment after aligning with the party that has Alh. Atiku Abubakar as the lead contestant.

Lastly, I don't see Peter Obi becoming a president in this country if he fails to register his own party and call the shots from there. Being a tenant in other parties will not help him because the founders of those parties have their own ambitions.
Gbam!!!
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 4:24pm On Jan 01
Validated:
Tinubu betrayed ElRufai 💔 after the latter SINGLE-HANDEDLY handed him the APC ticket.
Go and check, it was ElRufai that stood up against Buhari. He gathered 5 northern governors to help Tinubu get APC ticket against Buhari backed Amaechi.
How many delegates voted for Amaechi, how many voted for Tinubu? It wasn’t even close, in as much as Presidenti Buhari’s kitchen cabinet tried to scuttle Tinubu they failed woefully, & they will all pay in due time.

Emefiele & Malami have started the new era, so let the others enjoy their brief stay in The ADC, but I am not here to banter on an issue of the past.

So please don’t try & change the narrative, do u believe that El Rufai will support Gringory Obi against his friend Tinubu?

I know he will never support Obi against Atiku, I want your opinion on whether u believe he will support Obi against Tinubu?

Or is there anything Obi can promise or offer El Rufai in the future, that President Tinubu cannot offer him today?
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Streetinvestor2: 5:36pm On Jan 01
akpumping7720:
No wahala Streetinvestor, goodluck to your political gladiators.

But know this, northerners now or in 100 years to come when this our generation has even gone will never handover power to an easterner.
Is it better for SW to hold it so you don't have an argument. The SE has no business being in same country with that region. You are gaining from it because we are servicing the economy of lagos states which benefits that region. Is it north that sentenced Kanu to prison and bringing igbo properties down out of envy.It this present government not only Yoruba president even if it is in the south. Abi u think we don't have sense and eyes
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Streetinvestor2: 5:50pm On Jan 01
Burob:
Ok, so El Rufai will gladly work with Gringory Obi to remove his friend Tinubu from power?

What will gringory offer him, that Tinubu couldn’t give him?
So elrufai is working for SW president now.Nothing we don't hear from people of your region because of drug baron
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 5:56pm On Jan 01
Streetinvestor2:
So elrufai is working for SW president now.Nothing we don't hear from people of your region because of drug baron
I asked person a question, person wey I ask no talk, na u Biafra street investor come reply on em behalf dey talk opata?

El Rufai go support Gringory Obi over Tinubu or Atiku abi, simple question wetin Gringory Obi fit promise, or offer El Rufai tomorrow for his support, wey Tinubu no fit give El Rufai today?
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 6:13pm On Jan 01
Streetinvestor2:
Is it better for SW to hold it so you don't have an argument. The SE has no business being in same country with that region. You are gaining from it because we are servicing the economy of lagos states which benefits that region. Is it north that sentenced Kanu to prison and bringing igbo properties down out of envy.It this present government not only Yoruba president even if it is in the south. Abi u think we don't have sense and eyes
True word akpumping7720, let me tell street investor about a fact, that no northern male Muslim in the Adc today, will support an Igbo Christian candidate that has 8 years, over a Yoruba Muslim president with only 4 years left as president.

Your Gringory will be used & dumped, if u think anyone is going to make him the candidate of the ADC.

He was brought to the adc for only 1 reason, to deputize his boss Abubakar Atiku.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by mrvitalis(m): 7:03pm On Jan 01
akpumping7720:
Let me begin by congratulating President Bola Ahmed Tinubu in advance on his victory in the coming 2027 presidential election.

I have said it repeatedly on this platform: the most realistic pathway to an Igbo presidency in Nigeria runs through a sitting South-West president.

Politics in Nigeria—especially when it comes to dealing with the North—requires careful calculation and deep understanding. The Northern political establishment is not easy to outmanoeuvre. With their long-held “born-to-rule” mentality, power is something they believe they are entitled to, and they are often willing to assert it forcefully.

Former President Goodluck Jonathan’s emergence did not happen by accident. It was the product of careful planning and political permutations by Chief Olusegun Obasanjo. Obasanjo understood the health challenges of President Yar’Adua and deliberately positioned Jonathan as vice president. Many within the PDP caucus were unaware of this long-term plan, but Baba knew that the time had come for the goose that laid the golden egg to also have a taste of power.

Today, history appears to be presenting another opportunity—this time in the person of President Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Why do you think many governors from the Eastern extraction are increasingly aligning with him? Tinubu understands the Northern oligarchy. He has dined and wined with them. He knows their strengths, their fears, and their pressure points. More importantly, he has learnt from the mistakes of leaders like Chief Obafemi Awolowo and Chief MKO Abiola.

Consider the political drama that preceded the 2023 elections. Tinubu played the game masterfully. After becoming president, did you see him repeat those theatrics? No. He had achieved his objective.

Even if Peter Obi had won the 2023 election, would he have been able to restrain the Northern power bloc and their entrenched interests—many of whom control instruments capable of sabotaging the economy? That is a hard question many refuse to ask honestly.

The reality is this: any Igbo man aspiring to lead Nigeria must recognise the moment and align strategically. This is not the time for political isolation or moral grandstanding. It is the time to learn from the man who knows the road—the man who understands who to align with, who to avoid, and how power is truly negotiated in Nigeria.

Politics is not driven by emotion; it is driven by strategy. And those who want power must first understand how it is won.
Igbos want to do exactly what Yorubas did in 2015

You called it building bridge then abi ?

Allow us face your problem
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Streetinvestor2: 7:44pm On Jan 01
Burob:
I asked person a question, person wey I ask no talk, na u Biafra street investor come reply on em behalf dey talk opata?

El Rufai go support Gringory Obi over Tinubu or Atiku abi, simple question wetin Gringory Obi fit promise, or offer El Rufai tomorrow for his support, wey Tinubu no fit give El Rufai today?
I responded because I sabi mallam to his family house in zaria City and as a full kd person. He is not hungry to be looking for anything from them.He is a first class of my school. Do you even know the road to any northern state besides those sh..t holes in your region..lol
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Streetinvestor2: 7:47pm On Jan 01
Burob:
True word akpumping7720, let me tell street investor about a fact, that no northern male Muslim in the Adc today, will support an Igbo Christian candidate that has 8 years, over a Yoruba Muslim president with only 4 years left as president.

Your Gringory will be used & dumped, if u think anyone is going to make him the candidate of the ADC.

He was brought to the adc for only 1 reason, to deputize his boss Abubakar Atiku.
I will choose one northern person over 1000 person from your region based on different experience living in both regions. The worst enemy of SE is people from your region because of envy .We have nothing in common with your region. The enemity that has ever existed btw SE and north is always created by your people for your political and economic gains. ThankGod people like me are now telling our people the true story because we have travelled all over nigeria divides.And this SW government has proven our narratives to be true. That is why SW president and yoruba judiciary sentenced Kanu because your people see him as trophy over SE
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 7:56pm On Jan 01
Streetinvestor2:
I will choose one northern person over 1000 person from your region based on different experience living in both regions. The worst enemy of SE is people from your region because of envy .We have nothing in common with your region. The enemity that has ever existed btw SE and north is always created by your people for your political and economic gains. ThankGod people like me are now tell our people the true story because we have travelled all over nigeria divides
Yet Obi Cubana left Anambra’s state, to come & develop his millennium city in my state, why did he not develop the millennium city in Onitsha or Awka, why did he come to Asaba?

Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 7:59pm On Jan 01
Streetinvestor2:
I responded because I sabi mallam to his family house in zaria City and as a full kd person. He is not hungry to be looking for anything from them.He is a first class of my school. Do you even know the road to any northern state besides those sh..t holes in your region..lol
Person from the Big Heart State, no suppose dey even respond to person like yourself wey no know anything.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Streetinvestor2: 7:59pm On Jan 01
mrvitalis:
Igbos want to do exactly what Yorubas did in 2015

You called it building bridge then abi ?

Allow us face your problem
Our own brdge is on solid rock..obi
They want to play the political games they do in past.They now tell us that north is evil but forgot the same north made SW president possible. It is on record without elrufai. Tinubu won't have been apc flag bearer in 2023.They had already picked lawal by the cabal but he fought them that it must return to South and consensus candidate won't hold.They should tell me any person from SW that made it possible
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 8:04pm On Jan 01
Streetinvestor2:
Our own brdge is on solid rock..obi
They want to play the political games they do in past.They now tell us that north is evil but forgot the same north made SW president possible. It is on record without elrufai. Tinubu won't have been apc flag bearer in 2023.They had already picked lawal by the cabal but he fought them that it must return to South and consensus candidate won't hold.They should tell me any person from SW that made it possible
Deceive yourself for the narrative to fit your delusion.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Streetinvestor2: 8:05pm On Jan 01
Burob:
Yet Obi Cubana left Anambra’s state, to come & develop his millennium city in my state, why did he not develop the millennium city in Onitsha or Awka, why did he come to Asaba?
You have suddenly become a asaba man and not from SW..lol
Asaba is still seen as our brothers so SE has no problem with SS region. They can have thr own country while we have our own and be partner in different things. We have many things in common with that region
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Streetinvestor2: 8:07pm On Jan 01
Burob:
Deceive yourself for the narrative to fit your delusion.
Be proud to identify with your SW people. You can claim even lagos as many of them do here as your state..lol
Why don't u counter the narrative about elrufai and lawal before the build up of election. They didn't tell u that part in your transport union park
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by akpumping7720(op): 8:15pm On Jan 01
mrvitalis:
Igbos want to do exactly what Yorubas did in 2015

You called it building bridge then abi ?

Allow us face your problem
Go ahead and goodluck!
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 8:18pm On Jan 01
Streetinvestor2:
Be proud to identify with your SW people. You can claim even lagos as many of them do here as your state..lol
Why don't u counter the narrative about elrufai and lawal before the build up of election. They didn't tell u that part in your transport union park
Hahaha 😂 Empty Barrels will always make the loudest noise, make I just dey wind u like toy soldier, keep living in the past, Tinubu dey Aso Rock, Aso Rock wey Tinubu dey inside, na wetin dey make your messiah Gringory Obi dey run from pillar to post Lp today, Adc tomorrow.

Make u talk, talk is cheap, it is good for Obi to dream, but the irony is that Tinubu is the person living Obi’s dream today.
Re: The Pathway To An Igbo Presidency by Burob: 8:22pm On Jan 01
Streetinvestor2:
You have suddenly become a asaba man and not from SW..lol
Asaba is still seen as our brothers so SE has no problem with SS region. They can have thr own country while we have our own and be partner in different things. We have many things in common with that region
Na your tribalistic prejudice mindset which makes u assume everyone that counters u is from the South West, u cannot even conceal your bigotry & despise towards the yoruba tribe.

I never said I was from Asaba, Urhobo wado, us for Delta State no get time to dey play tribalism, on one Nigeria 🇳🇬 we stand.

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