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SarcasticWords:
✓ You are asking nairaland christians that have been divided into 40,000 different denominations to explain a scripture to you? Very wise of you. Goodluck!

Every religion out there has numerous sects so if we are to condemn religion, let's be sure to condemn them all..all religions are scams. 🥱🥱🥱

Now back to the book in question...it has no religious leanings---- no mention of either Judaism z Christianity or any of the other -isms -- meaning to answer this question, one must, without religious goggles, proceeds to analyze the details presented in the book.not just one verse ..to find answers. 🥱🥱🥱

Dtruthspeaker:
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Just rest.

Nairaland bot is tired of you.

Kobojunkie:
Every religion out there has..........................................

You've been yawning. Go and sleep please.

SarcasticWords:
✓ You've been yawning. Go and sleep please.

So, you came in feeling your own religion Superior in some way to the other religions, I see. Religion is merely a political system of tools used to heard the gullible form one prison to another. No matter what religion you belong to, your brainwashing remains according to the doctrines of the men who rule ober the particular sect you believe to. 🥱🥱🥱

When you are able to step outside of that delusion, then you can properly attend to the context of that irreligious book of books--- a series -- and the questions asked. 🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
So, you came in................................

Good night! Sweet dreams!

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not say tha "poison is inherently created to destroy"? Yet you also admitted that manufacturers are not responsible for how someone uses of their products.

So, evil is exactly like your poison which you have admitted and confessed that manufacturers are not responsible for how someone uses of their products.

So, your accusation against God is evil and so you are the one who has done evil today

If someone claims they created evil itself (Isaiah 45:7), then they are claiming authorship of the very condition that makes morally harmful acts possible in the first place.

By pointing this out I have not done evil, I have simply engaged in moral reasoning. Calling criticism evil simply because it challenges your worldview is not an argument, it’s an attempt to shut down discussion.

Moderator101:
Look at two brothers in Christ arguing.

Shameless people.

Clearly you are accustomed to chains and slevyrieeeee. So you do not understand the Freedom brothers have

KBdownloads:
If someone claims they created evil itself (Isaiah 45:7), then they are claiming authorship of the very condition that makes morally harmful acts possible in the first place.

By pointing this out I have not done evil, I have simply engaged in moral reasoning. Calling criticism evil simply because it challenges your worldview is not an argument, it’s an attempt to shut down discussion.

Repeating yourself is proof you don't have any valid argument. For your own mouth condemned you saying that the maker of a product (manufacturers) are not responsible for how someone uses their products.

Which is why despite all the killings the AK47 has done, you have never blamed Kalashnikov. Nor have you blamed Mr Toyoda and Toyota for the killings done to Anthony Joshua's friends.

But, here you are breaking this Law and trying to blame God. Yet, you say have not done evil.

No, man, you have done evil that is type Judas Iscariot did.

KBdownloads:
✓ If someone claims they created evil itself (Isaiah 45:7), then they are claiming authorship of the very condition that makes morally harmful acts possible in the first place.
✓ By pointing this out I have not done evil, I have simply engaged in moral reasoning. .

1. Indeed! That much of clear from Genesis where we are informed that YHWH created everything -- everything (good and evil alike) that was ever created was created by Him. 🥱🥱

2. Moral reasoning? What makes admitting what is clearly stated from book one of the compendium same as engaging as this moral reasoning? 🥱🥱🥱

P.S - Not here trying to hold brief for anyone here or elsewhere. 🥱🥱🥱

Dtruthspeaker:
Clearly you are accustomed to chains and slevyrieeeee. So you do not understand the Freedom brothers have

No wonder Judgement will begin in "Gods house''. Some people go chop better kane.

Dtruthspeaker:
Repeating yourself is proof you don't have any valid argument. For your own mouth condemned you saying that the maker of a product (manufacturers) are not responsible for how someone uses their products.

Which is why despite all the killings the AK47 has done, you have never blamed Kalashnikov. Nor have you blamed Mr Toyoda and Toyota for the killings done to Anthony Joshua's friends.

But, here you are breaking this Law and trying to blame God. Yet, you say have not done evil.

No, man, you have done evil that is type Judas Iscariot did.

You're accusing me of repeating myself while you keep repeating the same analogy I've already refuted multiple times.
Kalashnikov made a gun. He didn't create violence itself or the desire to kill.

Isaiah 45:7 claims God created evil itself,, not a tool, but the very capacity for evil.

Your analogy compares a manufacturer of one object to the person that created the conditions that make using that object for evil possible.

Address the actual argument and stop recycling the same broken analogy.

KBdownloads:
If understanding the bible requires belief and the guidance of the holy spirit, then non-believers can never critically evaluate it. Any contradiction in the bible can simply be dismissed as the person not having the holy spirit to understand it. By that logic, a muslim could say the same about the quran, and a hindu about their holy book. They could also claim that only believers guided by their god can truly understand it. What makes them wrong? In other words, you’re dismissing any argument from a non-believer by saying they need to first believe to understand it, which doesn't hold up.

No bros, you don't bring logic into christian religion, it's either you believe or you don't believe. A non-believer can never understand the words of God and it's formalities. Christianity is not like other religion, you have to be guided in flesh and spirit to understand the faith of Christianity.
Don't add logic to it.

Moderator101:
Look at two brothers in Christ arguing.

Shameless people.

Arguing? Do you know the definition of ‘arguement’?

manuelkel:
✓ No bros, you don't bring logic into christian religion, it's either you believe or you don't believe. A non-believer can never understand the words of God and it's formalities. Christianity is not like other religion, you have to be guided in flesh and spirit to understand the faith Christianity.
Don't add logic to it.

Christianity is exactly like every other religion out there in that they all require a person completely abandon his or her ability to critically reason information and reality while submitting to the brainwashing from those who occupy the position of gods of men over their sect. 🥱🥱🥱

manuelkel:
Arguing? Do you know the definition of ‘arguement’?

Do you know the spelling? Here, let me spell it for you : A R G U M E N T.

you are welcome.

Kobojunkie:
Christianity is exactly like every other religion out there in that they all require a person completely abandon his or her ability to critically reason information and reality while submitting to the brainwashing from those who occupy the position of gods of men over their sect. 🥱🥱🥱

If you don't believe in religion, good and fine for you....but downplaying religious groups of millions of humans irrespective of the denomination is quite du*b. I hope you face your realities and allow those who believe in religion face theirs.

Moderator101:
Do you know the spelling? Here, let me spell it for you : A R G U M E N T.

you are welcome.

😂 Yeah, I can see how jobless you are.....nah mate I ain't that jobless.

manuelkel:
😂 Yeah, I can see how jobless you are.....nah mate I ain't that jobless.

Go and learn how to spell words correctly.

manuelkel:
✓ If you don't believe in religion, good and fine for you....but downplaying religious groups of millions of humans irrespective of the denomination is quite du*b. I hope you face your realities and allow those who believe in religion face theirs.

Facts—truths— are backed by logical reasoning. Earlier, you had made it clear that logic has no place in religion. The connotation is that truth/facts are also not to be found in religion -- religion is built on lies and contradictions. 🥱🥱

Telling me not to severely downplay the beliefs of those who believe in these delusions —lies — is what is dumb. 🥱🥱🥱

KBdownloads:
You're accusing me of repeating myself while you keep repeating the same analogy I've already refuted multiple times.
Kalashnikov made a gun. He didn't create violence itself or the desire to kill.

Isaiah 45:7 claims God created evil itself,, not a tool, but the very capacity for evil.

Your analogy compares a manufacturer of one object to the person that created the conditions that make using that object for evil possible.

Address the actual argument and stop recycling the same broken analogy.

I am repeating because you are repeating what I have already rebutted.

The thread shows that you admitted that a gun and poison is evil, just like what was is said in Isaiah which has been rebutted even by your own words.

But now you have seen that one did not work you have now moved post to another evil of are trying to bend the Isaiah beyond its scope.

For where in the Isaiah did it dictate the condition of use?

Is Isaiah not only saying that like Toyoda and Kalashnikov, I created evil?

Did He now say no other person could use it?

Do you not see all the people who are using it to do evil just like bandits are using Kalashnikovs guns and Toyotas?

Do we not see the evil capacity of the gun and the poison in action? How are they different from the evil God created especially as Kalashnikov created the gun as God created the evil?

So, point out the difference between the two manufacturers since both of them created what we all call evil things

KBdownloads:
Flawed analogy. The tools you mentioned are neutral, how someone uses them isn’t the responsibility of their makers. On the other hand, God himself is claiming responsibility for evil itself, which is far from neutral

in your opinion, what is evil?

SarcasticWords:
You are asking nairaland christians that have been divided into 40,000 different denominations to explain a scripture to you?

Very wise of you.

Goodluck!

Do you agree that a God exists?

Truthseeker10:
✓ Do you agree that a God exists?

A God? There are literally over 4000 of them out there. 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
A God? There are literally over 4000 of them out there. 🥱🥱🥱

I never asked how many they were. The question is simple. Do you agree that a God exist?

Truthseeker10:
✓ I never asked how many they were. The question is simple. Do you agree that a God exist?

You havs to be specific about the identity of the deity in question since one deity's existence does not necessitate not cancel out the existence of others. 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
You havs to be specific about the identity of the deity in question since one deity's existence does not necessitate not cancel out the existence of others. 🥱🥱🥱

You need to solve your problem with logic as evident in the screenshot below.

Moderator101:


No wonder Judgement will begin in "Gods house''. Some people go chop better kane.

And all of them who are criminals in the house will first be thrown out to join you in the prison to be thrown into the fire lake

Truthseeker10:
You need to solve your problem with logic as evident in the screenshot below.

This general understanding of God also assumes that what applies to the Allah of the Muslims also applies as far as the deities of the Christians and the gods of the Greek. So, is that the same general understanding you are attempting to push for here? 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
This general understanding of God also assumes that what applies to the Allah of the Muslims also applies as far as the deities of the Christians and the gods of the Greek. So, is that the same general understanding you are attempting to push for here? 🥱🥱🥱

You can continue the logic class with meta ai since You really need it as evident below. I would not answer you anymore since the original question was not for you. If you ask me anymore question relating to this matter, I would block you.

Truthseeker10:
You can continue the logic class with meta ai since You really need it as evident below. I would not answer you anymore since the original question was not for you. If you ask me anymore question relating to this matter, I would block you.

I can generally state that gods do exists since I am well aware that most humans worship other humans beings whom many eyes, nose, touch, and mind tell me that they exist. Does that help you some with your general logic? 🥱🥱

The OP was created by a Muslim. Here you are asking someone if God exists. Are you asking if Allah exists or are you asking if any of the Greek gods exist? Again , you need to be more specific. 🥱🥱

SarcasticWords:
You are asking nairaland christians that have been divided into 40,000 different denominations to explain a scripture to you?

Very wise of you.

Goodluck!

Are you in anyway related to Kobojunkie?!