₦airaland Forum

Bonab:
It is like the more civilised a society is the more selfish their citizens becomes. Everybody starts pursuing what does not benefit the society, in the name wokeness.

SixSeven:
In Africa, the child runs in the dust and the sun, calling to uncles and aunts, and they answer. The mother’s arms are many in the village; meals come from the earth, schools are simple, and lessons are learned in work and laughter. The child grows with the rhythm of the land and the voices of those who love her.


It is not the child that costs more, but the world that surrounds her. In some places, life must be bought. Here, life is shared.

Because we are losing this value of who we are, happy with so little and enjoying life's simple things, the village is no longer raising the child and childcare is now getting expensive here as we chase the money that never ends and no one who has died values money more than family.

peleson1:
They should reach out to some developing countries that can send their school age kids to South Korea under some bilateral agreements

Bonab:
It is like the more civilised a society is the more selfish their citizens becomes. Everybody starts pursuing what does not benefit the society, in the name wokeness.

nairalanda1:
In Africa having fifteen kids means that when you grow old, each of those kids will send something. No welfare system makes it a must

Overseas? You pay high taxes which ironically make cost of living more difficult for welfare that would take care of you in old age.

Under thanr circumstance, children may not be necessary.

Also things do cost more there. Even house costs more because houses must be built to standard ( not like Nigeria where we just build anyhow). All that adds up. Searching for money is not about being rich, it is about meeting up with high cost of living and high taxes there , which enables them to have a better life than most Africans here.

nairalanda1:
Yeah, but the cost of living thing too is why many females are in the workplace

The idea of a single breadwinner ended when cost of living started to rise in the developed world ages ago. Even today in the most conservative areas of the world, women work. It costs too much to bring up a family

In Korea, when you have a child, you not only have to pay for school, you have to pay for extra lessons and tutoring, clothes and electronics for the child. Because in Korea if your child position in life depends on which university they go to. All that adds up.

Housing and even cars are more expensive over there too and then taxes are high there as well...that's why most women including the married ones work

Bahamas95:
You can NEVER satisfy humans.


You born like rat dem go complain, you born like elephant dem go still complain.

Fearlez:
The most conservative places in the world should be the middle east but even in most conservative places in America, it is generally believed women should be at home.

Japan and Korea governments have offered cash bonus and child support but the issue doesn't go away because it's now cultural.

Women are discriminated against in work places if they get pregnant or apply for maternity leave. Remember China isn't facing the severity of this problem even with their one child policies until they begin having high female workers and it happened to them. They now officially increased their birth rate per couple to 2 and decrease female workforce population.

Japan and Korea are western in values and they are facing what Germany, France UK and other western countries who allow female population and liberalism to thrive.

That's why the borders are open all over the West to shore up their population.

Now the orientals (china, Japan, Korea, etc are not big on racial intermingling so the liberal culture that brought underpopulation is hitting them hard the most

Also low wedges is also driven by the inclusion of women into the workforce as compared to the 1950s where they were low female in the workforce.

Fearlez:
The most conservative places in the world should be the middle east but even in most conservative places in America, it is generally believed women should be at home.

Japan and Korea governments have offered cash bonus and child support but the issue doesn't go away because it's now cultural.

Women are discriminated against in work places if they get pregnant or apply for maternity leave. Remember China isn't facing the severity of this problem even with their one child policies until they begin having high female workers and it happened to them. They now officially increased their birth rate per couple to 2 and decrease female workforce population.

Japan and Korea are western in values and they are facing what Germany, France UK and other western countries who allow female population and liberalism to thrive.

That's why the borders are open all over the West to shore up their population.

Now the orientals (china, Japan, Korea, etc are not big on racial intermingling so the liberal culture that brought underpopulation is hitting them hard the most

Also low wedges is also driven by the inclusion of women into the workforce as compared to the 1950s where they were low female in the workforce.

nairalanda1:
In the 1950s, cost of living was good enough to sustain a one breadwinner family

Now? It just isn't. That's the main driver of women in the workplace.

A lot of japanese and Korean women want to marry and have kids, but they can't afford it even when both the man and woman work. Talk less of the man just working.Unless they move into a rural area where there are not enough jobs.

nairalanda1:
In the 1950s, cost of living was good enough to sustain a one breadwinner family

Now? It just isn't. That's the main driver of women in the workplace.

A lot of japanese and Korean women want to marry and have kids, but they can't afford it even when both the man and woman work. Talk less of the man just working.Unless they move into a rural area where there are not enough jobs.

Fearlez:
No.

Women came into the workforce in unprecedented large numbers after world war 11.

They actually brought low wedges in the workforce starting from immediately after the world war ended in 1945.

As women are not traditional breadwinners, organisations, companies and firms pay them significantly less than they would pay a male.

A lot of women in South Korea and Japan are not even in long term relationships let alone marriages. Many of them work in high tech companies and don't even have time for socials. This is why male brothels exist in both countries for these working women to go get pipped after work.

No matter what the mainstream media is peddling, it is feminism and female autonomy.

There's no first works country with over 4 trillion dollar economy that can't raise two children.

Mrluv:
how do i get to south korea

Bonab:
It is like the more civilised a society is the more selfish their citizens becomes. Everybody starts pursuing what does not benefit the society, in the name wokeness.

aribisala0:
The earth is alive it does not exist for human beings
Our time will soon be up and the earth will continue without us
Just like it did for billions of years before us
Our violent and destructive nature will guarantee our exit soon

nairalanda1:
Yes you are right, but the real problem is cost of living

No one can bring up a family in the developed world on one income. Two incomes is hard even with one child.

SmartPolician:
Considering their GDP per capita, South Korea is a rich country. Families should end the madness of having 0 - 3 kids.

Instead, they should have a new law that compels families to have a minimum of 5 children. While the parents train the 1 - 2, the government takes care of the rest.

Don't bring in people from other cultures and races to dilute your culture. South Korea deserves to preserve its culture because it is beautiful.

Fearlez:
I thought the developed world has better standard of living, higher wages and better life access to amenities and services.

I have family members with 4-5 kids in Northern Europe. What happens to the west is playing out in Japan and South Korea. Only these two regions were women are now outnumbering men in work places and pursuing careers over family that are facing population decline.

Remember this group are now freezing their eggs, using hormonal changing pills to put off pregnancies until their careers peak

peleson1:
They should reach out to some developing countries that can send their school age kids to South Korea under some bilateral agreements

nairalanda1:
Yes, and everything there costs more than your salary so to speak. Also tax rates are higher there too.( That's part of why I laugh at Nigerians complaining about tinubu tax. )

peleson1:
They should reach out to some developing countries that can send their school age kids to South Korea under some bilateral agreements

Sulele04:
How do you know this ?
Who told you that "the earth is alive and does not exist for human beings" ?
If the earth doesn't exist for humans does it exist for dogs then ?

Fearlez:
As their wages are higher so are their taxes. It offsets the tax and cost. Remember both the government of Japan and S. Korea are paying mothers cash and offering free education of choice but the women in both countries are not backing down.

These same policy was offered somewhat in the US with social packages and black American women began having children from multiple fathers because government was footing the bill.

For Tinubu tax, the Nigerian government has no moral grounds to implement first world taxation without implementing first world salaries, electricity and government transparency and free elections.

PHIPEX:
The effect of extreme civilisation and wokeness.

the first world nations will soon go extinct due to low childbirth rate. That's why they now rely on migrations to keep afloat. Soon Europe will be populated by 50% migrants while their own people journey towards extinction

aribisala0:
I do not know it
I believe it
I do not need to be told things to know them
With respect your question if the earth does not exist for humans does it exist fir dogs?

Do you think that is the talk of a man with a working brain?


Why do I believe it it?
The current scientific belief and evidence is that in the observable universe there are 2 trillion galaxies

Our galaxy the Milky has
About 100–400 billion stars in the Milky Way one of which is our sun
Each star has several planets and there are billions of planets like this earth
There are more stars in the universe than there are human beings that have ever lived

This earth supports life because there is the sun. No sun no life

The earth is 4.54billiion years old
Human beings have been here for 300000years that is not up to half a million years
There have been vertebrates on earth for over 500 million years

Dinosaurs first appeared 230 million years and lived for 160 million years


They became extinct

So we know that animals can and have lived here for millions of years and eventually become extinct

It is reasonable for me from the foregoing to believe that one day we too will disappear

It is also obvious to me that the earth does not exist for human beings

Philosopher1979:
We

This is why conservatives like Trump or right wing ideologies are needed in the western world. Europe will soon go right wing and conservative. Extreme freedom that the left wing advocates ironically leads to bondage

nairalanda1:
I used to think like you do

But in a country like Korea, reduced population doesn't just mean closed schools.

1. It means things like transport services start closing down routes because not enough bus drivers or hospitals closing because not enough nurses or doctors

2. And it means more borrowing. To pay pensions. Because not enough workers to pay tax to fund the pensions. And also to pay for healthcare among other things.

The borrowing would be beyond tinubu borrowing by the way. Healthcare for elders for example is very expensive. Imagine a whole nation where most people are old

What we need in Nigeria is a government that is ready to make this country industrial and we would be okay