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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by saxwizard(m): 5:54pm On Jan 06
dollarnaira:
Stress? To put container under a dripping hose? Nna enh... Una too dey easy to dupe.

How do one distinguish between regular water from distilled water?

Trust? Hmmm
Like I said buying from a trusted sources!

And not wanting to go through the stress of manually collecting the water is a personal choice.

Has nothing to do with been duped
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 6:32pm On Jan 06
saxwizard:
Like I said buying from a trusted sources!

And not wanting to go through the stress of manually collecting the water is a personal choice.

Has nothing to do with been duped
Cool.
If you source is trusted, no issue.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Tdoctor(m): 7:32pm On Jan 06
bassdow:
only way to connect all 4pcs of 12v Tubular batteries to a 12v inverter is to connect them all in parallel using a very thick wire, then use another very thick wire to connect them to the 12v inverter. Ensure to have at least a breaker in-between.

If I were in your shoes, I would only connect 1 or 2 at a time.

Also if you wanna act like a techie, you could add a switch that would ensure only 2pcs of batteries are connected at a time hence you could use and charge the batteries while only using at most 2pcs at a time.
Curious. Why only 1 or two at a time? Why not the four?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow:
Tdoctor:
Curious. Why only 1 or two at a time? Why not the four?
4pcs of 200Ah batteries in parallel would give 12v 800Ah. That's a lot of current to handle, which increases losses despite requiring large thick cables (wires) which also costs more money + the inherent danger with such battery bank.

Common 2pcs of 200AH batteries alone in parallel sef would cause some issues except proper steps are put in place let alone 4pcs.

There's a reason most of us (at least the pros among us) prefers High voltage Low current especially in Solar panels. Even PHCN (NEPA) does similar hence reason they need transformer to step it up.

Even the charger it's sef also would be under pressure to deliver hence another issue. Don't forget, Voltage from source forces it's self in BUT it's the appliance that takes the amount of current it needs.

Hence if you have a 12v 800AH battery bank but the charger is rated 15v 30amps, the charger pushes in approximately 15v but it's the battery that would draw the amount of current it needs BUT since some internal mechanics comes into play, it would be limited to approximately 80 to 100amps which still is too much for such charger hence the charger ends up over heating and failing. Think of why a lot of laptop chargers either keeps getting warm, or hot during usage. Often times, it's because the amp rating of said charger is small for such laptop. BUT try giving said laptop a charger whose voltage is more than what's on the laptop and see it fry your laptop/appliance.

Hopefully such charger ain't dumb else fire fit start

Let me stop here
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Bankyshinani(m): 8:44pm On Jan 06
Good afternoon guys,
Please I have 3.2kva inverter in which it's voc is 160vdc and I am using 3 450w solar panels with it all connected in series...Buh now I feel like adding more panels buh I will be exceeding the 160vdv....
Please,what can I do at this for me to be able to increase the panels because I am also saving money for a 10kw lithium battery as I am using 2 tubular batteries now?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 9:00pm On Jan 06
Bankyshinani:
Good afternoon guys,
Please I have 3.2kva inverter in which it's voc is 160vdc and I am using 3 450w solar panels with it all connected in series...Buh now I feel like adding more panels buh I will be exceeding the 160vdv....
Please,what can I do at this for me to be able to increase the panels because I am also saving money for a 10kw lithium battery as I am using 2 tubular batteries now?
I disLike questions such as this lacking basic data. Why you didn't tell us how many extra solar panels you intends adding ? You didn't even explicitly state it's a hybrid inverter; You just want us to guess which can be error prone.

anyways, let's assume you intends adding extra 3 solar panels, you have to go from just 3 series to 3series 2parallel 3S2P hence it becomes 2 groups of 3 solar panels in series connected in parallel.

if you adding just extra 1 solar panel, it becomes 2S2P
if adding extra 3 solar panels, it becomes 2S3P

Also ensure you don't exceed the max charging current (around 60amps for 3.2kva inverters)

BUT if you don't want your inverter dictating number of solar panels, just get an external charge controller.

One might wonder why you need more than 3pcs of 450w solar panels for just 2pcs of 12v batteries which totals about 24v 200Ah
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Bankyshinani(m): 9:06pm On Jan 06
bassdow:
I disLike questions such as this lacking basic data. Why you didn't tell us how many extra solar panels you intends adding ? You didn't even explicitly state it's a hybrid inverter; You just want us to guess which can be error prone.

anyways, let's assume you intends adding extra 3 solar panels, you have to go from just 3 series to 3series 2parallel 3S2P hence it becomes 2 groups of 3 solar panels in series connected in parallel.

if you adding just extra 1 solar panel, it becomes 2S2P
if adding extra 3 solar panels, it becomes 2S3P

Also ensure you don't exceed the max charging current (around 60amps for 3.2kva inverters)

BUT if you don't want your inverter dictating number of solar panels, just get an external charge controller.

One might wonder why you need more than 3pcs of 450w solar panels for just 2pcs of 12v batteries which totals about 24v 200Ah
The inverter is an hybrid inverter
Will getting an extra charging controller not disturb duty of internal charge controller
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dabss(m): 9:43pm On Jan 06
Why is it cheaper to buy two 12v lithium batteries than one 24v battery of the same capacity?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 3:42am On Jan 07
Bankyshinani:
The inverter is an hybrid inverter
Will getting an extra charging controller not disturb duty of internal charge controller
NO getting an external charge controller wouldn't disturb the internal one as it stops being used and relies on the external one.

Also if you are just adding extra 1 or 2 or 3 solar panels, so long the max charging current isn't exceeded, just switch to a combination of series and parallel connections and you could continue using the internal one.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Betnomore: 5:43am On Jan 07
Compliments of the season bro. Abeg I need follow u talk. Mention me with your number abeg
Trippledots:
Linnov8
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by waleayeni1: 6:49am On Jan 07
I have 2 Schneider inverters: Conext SW4024 & Conext Sw 4048. I thought it would be a simple connection with solar panels, charge controller and lithium batteries. However, chat GBT tells me that my idea of solar is very wrong. That the inverter can only charge the batteries through grid or generator power. That I cannot charge the battery through the inverter with solar power. I say make I come meet our solar ancestors to help set the matter straight. Abeg make una explain am to me
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 7:11am On Jan 07
waleayeni1:
I have 2 Schneider inverters: Conext SW4024 & Conext Sw 4048. I thought it would be a simple connection with solar panels, charge controller and lithium batteries. However, chat GBT tells me that my idea of solar is very wrong. That the inverter can only charge the batteries through grid or generator power. That I cannot charge the battery through the inverter with solar power. I say make I come meet our solar ancestors to help set the matter straight. Abeg make una explain am to me
No be small chat gibiti. 😂
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 7:12am On Jan 07
Betnomore:
Compliments of the season bro. Abeg I need follow u talk. Mention me with your number abeg
Aiit, Chief.

Edit: just chatted you but it seems you changed contact. Drop digits so I can holla. Hope all is well?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by HeavenlyBang(m): 7:16am On Jan 07
waleayeni1:
I have 2 Schneider inverters: Conext SW4024 & Conext Sw 4048. I thought it would be a simple connection with solar panels, charge controller and lithium batteries. However, chat GBT tells me that my idea of solar is very wrong. That the inverter can only charge the batteries through grid or generator power. That I cannot charge the battery through the inverter with solar power. I say make I come meet our solar ancestors to help set the matter straight. Abeg make una explain am to me
Not every inverter has PV charging, some only support AC charging.

In this case, you need an external charge controller.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bkuranga(m): 7:22am On Jan 07
CuteMaro:
Metal vs Wooden case,
Breakers (High voltage batteries need breakers)
Communication ports and general aesthetics.
Mrreed now make batteries with metal case, bro.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 8:44am On Jan 07
Trippledots:
Aiit, Chief.

Edit: just chatted you but it seems you changed contact. Drop digits so I can holla. Hope all is well?
People still chat you up?
The last time I searched for Trippledots here on Nairaland, it goes line by line with Criminal. Wow.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by brightk(m): 8:58am On Jan 07
BigDickProblems:
People still chat you up?
The last time I searched for Trippledots here on Nairaland, it goes line by line with Criminal. Wow.
lol..oga wetin na.. una don label am criminal just now now now
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 9:07am On Jan 07
BigDickProblems:
People still chat you up?
The last time I searched for Trippledots here on Nairaland, it goes line by line with Criminal. Wow.
😂 😂 😂

If that makes you sleep well bros, be my guest. 😊
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 10:21am On Jan 07
waleayeni1:
I have 2 Schneider inverters: Conext SW4024 & Conext Sw 4048. I thought it would be a simple connection with solar panels, charge controller and lithium batteries. However, chat GBT tells me that my idea of solar is very wrong. That the inverter can only charge the batteries through grid or generator power. That I cannot charge the battery through the inverter with solar power. I say make I come meet our solar ancestors to help set the matter straight. Abeg make una explain am to me
After purchase...
Na only hybrid get grid and solar functions. Always ask questions before you leap.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 11:08am On Jan 07
brightk:
lol..oga wetin na.. una don label am criminal just now now now
I searched his name “Tripppledots” on Nairaland, I was seeing Criminal, Criminal everywhere. Bad name.

The 400k don finish.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by brightk(m): 12:15pm On Jan 07
BigDickProblems:
I searched his name “Tripppledots” on Nairaland, I was seeing Criminal, Criminal everywhere. Bad name.

The 400k don finish.
grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 12:22pm On Jan 07
bassdow:
4pcs of 200Ah batteries in parallel would give 12v 800Ah. That's a lot of current to handle, which increases losses despite requiring large thick cables (wires) which also costs more money + the inherent danger with such battery bank.

Common 2pcs of 200AH batteries alone in parallel sef would cause some issues except proper steps are put in place let alone 4pcs.

There's a reason most of us (at least the pros among us) prefers High voltage Low current especially in Solar panels. Even PHCN (NEPA) does similar hence reason they need transformer to step it up.

Even the charger it's sef also would be under pressure to deliver hence another issue. Don't forget, Voltage from source forces it's self in BUT it's the appliance that takes the amount of current it needs.

Hence if you have a 12v 800AH battery bank but the charger is rated 15v 30amps, the charger pushes in approximately 15v but it's the battery that would draw the amount of current it needs BUT since some internal mechanics comes into play, it would be limited to approximately 80 to 100amps which still is too much for such charger hence the charger ends up over heating and failing. Think of why a lot of laptop chargers either keeps getting warm, or hot during usage. Often times, it's because the amp rating of said charger is small for such laptop. BUT try giving said laptop a charger whose voltage is more than what's on the laptop and see it fry your laptop/appliance.

Hopefully such charger ain't dumb else fire fit start

Let me stop here
None of this is correct. Irrespective of the size of your battery bank, the charger will supply the maximum current it is rated for. 15V 30A charger will supply a maximum of 30A which all the batteries will share among themselves based on their state of charge/internal resistance. Also, the current that will be drawn is not dependent on the battery bank size but on the draw by the connected appliances. In addition, how thick the cable needed is will depend on probable current draw. If we are talking in the range of 30A, the cables do not have to be too thick.

Therefore:

1. There is no reason not to use all the 4 batteries at the same time in parrallel.
2. The cable size will depend on the intended current draw.
3. The charger will not overheat becuase it will only supply the amount of current it is rated for, unless it is an overrated or poor china quality.
4. However, 30A charger will take a long time to fully charge the battery if they are depleted.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 12:26pm On Jan 07
BigDickProblems:
I searched his name “Tripppledots” on Nairaland, I was seeing Criminal, Criminal everywhere. Bad name.

The 400k don finish.
E don finish o 😭😭😭.... Come and give me another one na. 🤲
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 1:29pm On Jan 07
BigDickProblems:
People still chat you up?
The last time I searched for Trippledots here on Nairaland, it goes line by line with Criminal. Wow.
Shey e get something else this Bros do wey I know no about ?
hmmmmm
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 1:30pm On Jan 07
adrusa:
None of this is correct. Irrespective of the size of your battery bank, the charger will supply the maximum current it is rated for. 15V 30A charger will supply a maximum of 30A which all the batteries will share among themselves based on their state of charge/internal resistance. Also, the current that will be drawn is not dependent on the battery bank size but on the draw by the connected appliances. In addition, how thick the cable needed is will depend on probable current draw. If we are talking in the range of 30A, the cables do not have to be too thick.

Therefore:

1. There is no reason not to use all the 4 batteries at the same time in parrallel.
2. The cable size will depend on the intended current draw.
3. The charger will not overheat becuase it will only supply the amount of current it is rated for, unless it is an overrated or poor china quality.
4. However, 30A charger will take a long time to fully charge the battery if they are depleted.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 1:31pm On Jan 07
brightk:
lol..oga wetin na.. una don label am criminal just now now now
like they're any different
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 1:40pm On Jan 07
favouredbymercy:
Check this on Jumia. 600watts, but its a 1.5litres Jug.
It was delivered today.
1.5L of water boiled after about 13min.
Same volume of water boils on gas at average heat for about 8mins.

Power is about 600w too i.e 48a on a 12v system. Efficient appliances are still coming in the future.

Thanks thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 2:07pm On Jan 07
dollarnaira:
It was delivered today.
1.5L of water boiled after about 13min.
Same volume of water boils on gas at average heat for about 8mins.

Power is about 600w too i.e 48a on a 12v system. Efficient appliances are still coming in the future.

Thanks thanks.
Personally, I'm not sure much improvement can be made to resistive power loads in terms of energy consumption.. What I can suggest is to run resistive loads directly off your DC source with applicable appliances. That way you jump many of the energy conversion losses.
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