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Dtruthspeaker:
See, moving post.

And now in addition to all your shi... you believe dinosaurs. No wonder ya r a failyour

No im just mocking gods

bolabizzle:
Read revelation 22: 15 to see how God perfectly describes you and your bloodline

At least, now you have agreed that you are going there. So your case is closed.

And now you want to drag me with you. But, unfortunately for you, I am not any of those people that is why The Lords ears are not far from my lips.

But you are all those things and more listed in Romans 1: 8-32. Not to even talk about your blasphemy. That one has finished you and your kind and company permanently.

And Revelations 20: 8 and co has already sealed your fate permanently, which is why like the dog you are looking for people who will follow you forgetting that God will still punis.. yeu for that. And that is why punis...in yeu people forever is justified because forever is not even enough to punis... yiu pleople of all yar sins and wiked'nes

Disinfectant123:
No one has even tried to debunk my points

Are you being serious right now?🙂

You missed a verse in the Bible:


God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day. ‭Genesis 1:31 NIV‬


Please where is the evil?
Is it hidden among all the good things?

Of course God never created anything evil in the beginning.

So what are the evil God is referring to in the Bible book of Isaiah 45:7?

They are natural forces that could be harmful when misused.

I mentioned "FIRE" an accumulation of gasses, just this December fire consumed a lot of properties yet can we survive without using fire?

The answer is NO!

So God is telling Isaiah that He created this thing and so He could redirect it to do something totally different from what we knew it to be.
For instance the fire Nebuchadnezzar wanted to use to destroy Shadrach Meshak and Abednego turned to air conditioner while the same fire killed the strongest men in Babylon.

Lesson: this remind us that whatever evil thing we could be scared of they are all harmless before the Creator who made them all! Matthew 10:28🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Are you being serious right now?🙂

You missed a verse in the Bible:


God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day. ‭Genesis 1:31 NIV‬


Please where is the evil?
Is it hidden among all the good things?

Of course God never created anything evil in the beginning.

So what are the evil God is referring to in the Bible book of Isaiah 45:7?

They are natural forces that could be harmful when misused.

I mentioned "FIRE" an accumulation of gasses, just this December fire consumed a lot of properties yet can we survive without using fire?

The answer is NO!

So God is telling Isaiah that He created this thing and so He could redirect it to do something totally different from what we knew it to be.
For instance the fire Nebuchadnezzar wanted to use to destroy Shadrach Meshak and Abednego turned to air conditioner while the same fire killed the strongest men in Babylon.

Lesson: this remind us that whatever evil thing we could be scared of they are all harmless before the Creator who made them all! Matthew 10:28🙂

It took you long enougn to respond. Ill start
“God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.” (Gen 1:31)
evil would never arise
God could never later introduce judgment, calamity, or punishment
Very good” ≠ “incapable of future corruption.
The Bible itself shows changes after Genesis 1: Genesis 3 → sin enters
Genesis 6 → the world becomes “full of violence”
Genesis 19 → cities destroyed
Exodus → plagues sent by God
“I form the light and create darkness,
[b]I make peace and create raʿ (רָע);
[/b]I, the LORD, do all these things.”
It is used throughout the Old Testament to mean:
distress,punishment,judgment,disaster,calamity

Examples (same word):

Amos 3:6 – “Does disaster (raʿ) come to a city unless the LORD has done it?”
Jeremiah 18:11 – “I am preparing disaster (raʿ) against you.”
Lamentations 3:38 – “Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both good and bad (raʿ) come?”
These are acts of judgment, not misused fire
“God never created evil”
"God never creates calamity, disaster, or judgment"
The Bible clearly says He does — righteously.
Isaiah 45 is literally about:
God’s sovereignty over history
Raising and destroying nations

Scripture also says God actively sends destructive fire:
Genesis 19:24 – God rains fire on Sodom
Leviticus 10:2 – fire kills Nadab and Abihu
2 Kings 1:10 – fire consumes soldiers
Revelation 20:9 – fire devours enemies

I never took you seriously because atheists are fond of arguing aimlessly.

Of course God never created anything bad in the beginning but when His loved ones needs to be rescued God will redirect the GOOD things He created to destroy the enemies of peace.

Below is how God used RAIN to destroy those giants and the people who refused to hid Noah's warning.

Surely water that sustains life on this planet could be used to destroy life if God decides to stop something that's getting out of hand.

Meanwhile you were asking why did God made humans on the other thread. Please note that He wants us to enjoy life but never thought of evil because He is Holy (Pure at heart)

Disinfectant123:
It took you long enougn to respond. Ill start
“God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.” (Gen 1:31)
evil would never arise
God could never later introduce judgment, calamity, or punishment
Very good” ≠ “incapable of future corruption.
The Bible itself shows changes after Genesis 1: Genesis 3 → sin enters
Genesis 6 → the world becomes “full of violence”
Genesis 19 → cities destroyed
Exodus → plagues sent by God
“I form the light and create darkness,
[b]I make peace and create raʿ (רָע);
[/b]I, the LORD, do all these things.”
It is used throughout the Old Testament to mean:
distress,punishment,judgment,disaster,calamity

Examples (same word):

Amos 3:6 – “Does disaster (raʿ) come to a city unless the LORD has done it?”
Jeremiah 18:11 – “I am preparing disaster (raʿ) against you.”
Lamentations 3:38 – “Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both good and bad (raʿ) come?”
These are acts of judgment, not misused fire
“God never created evil”
"God never creates calamity, disaster, or judgment"
The Bible clearly says He does — righteously.
Isaiah 45 is literally about:
God’s sovereignty over history
Raising and destroying nations

Scripture also says God actively sends destructive fire:
Genesis 19:24 – God rains fire on Sodom
Leviticus 10:2 – fire kills Nadab and Abihu
2 Kings 1:10 – fire consumes soldiers
Revelation 20:9 – fire devours enemies

MaxInDHouse:
I never took you seriously because atheists are fond of arguing aimlessly.

Of course God never created anything bad in the beginning but when His loved ones needs to be rescued God will redirect the GOOD things He created to destroy the enemies of peace.

Below is how God used RAIN to destroy those giants and the people who refused to hid Noah's warning.

Surely water that sustains life on this planet could be used to destroy life if God decides to stop something that's getting out of hand.

Meanwhile you were asking why did God made humans on the other thread. Please note that He wants us to enjoy life but never thought of evil because He is Holy (Pure at heart)

Saying that God never created anything bad but only “redirects good things” to stop evil doesn’t actually match what the Bible itself says. Genesis 1:31 describes creation at the beginning as good, but it does not say God would never later bring judgment or destruction. In fact, Scripture repeatedly shows God openly declaring that He will bring calamity, disaster, and destruction as acts of justice, not as accidents or mere side effects of neutral forces. In the Flood narrative, God does not say He is simply redirecting rain; He explicitly says, “I am going to destroy all flesh,” making the intent clear, with rain serving only as the instrument. Isaiah 45:7 says God creates peace and creates calamity, Amos says disaster does not come to a city unless the Lord has done it, and Jeremiah says God plans judgment. Holiness does not mean harmlessness; it means moral purity. A holy God can still will destruction without committing moral evil, because judgment is not the same as sin. Reducing divine judgment to “misused good things” may sound comforting, but it weakens the text and avoids the Bible’s own explanation, which defends God not by denying His power over destruction, but by grounding it in His sovereignty and justice.

Even your own image shows that god is evil
What an evil fake deity we have

We are saying exactly the same thing it's just that you feel like repeating yourself!🙂

Here is a question that will help you to understand better.

What exactly did God use to destroy the evildoers but is not part of the things we need for survival on this planet?🙂

Disinfectant123:
Saying that God never created anything bad but only “redirects good things” to stop evil doesn’t actually match what the Bible itself says. Genesis 1:31 describes creation at the beginning as good, but it does not say God would never later bring judgment or destruction. In fact, Scripture repeatedly shows God openly declaring that He will bring calamity, disaster, and destruction as acts of justice, not as accidents or mere side effects of neutral forces. In the Flood narrative, God does not say He is simply redirecting rain; He explicitly says, “I am going to destroy all flesh,” making the intent clear, with rain serving only as the instrument. Isaiah 45:7 says God creates peace and creates calamity, Amos says disaster does not come to a city unless the Lord has done it, and Jeremiah says God plans judgment. Holiness does not mean harmlessness; it means moral purity. A holy God can still will destruction without committing moral evil, because judgment is not the same as sin. Reducing divine judgment to “misused good things” may sound comforting, but it weakens the text and avoids the Bible’s own explanation, which defends God not by denying His power over destruction, but by grounding it in His sovereignty and justice.

Even your own image shows that god is evil
What an evil fake deity we have

bolabizzle:
hell is real and you will find this to be true very soon.

Why should God send his spirit to hell?

See Ecclesiastes 12:7 for clarification.

MaxInDHouse:
We are saying exactly the same thing it's just that you feel like repeating yourself!🙂

Here is a question that will help you to understand better.

What exactly did God use to destroy the evildoers but is not part of the things we need for survival on this planet?🙂

Water but

Im sorry but how does this debunk my point?

Disinfectant123:
Water but
Im sorry but how does this debunk my point?

It shows that God never created any evil rather it's out of the GOOD things He made that He redirect to destroy evildoers.

Now read that verse again and try to have a rethink not with your former mindset but with the mindset that there was no evil God created in the beginning He only used the GOOD things in a way we never expected!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
It shows that God never created any evil rather it's out of the GOOD things He made that He redirect to destroy evildoers.

Now read that verse again and try to have a rethink not with your former mindset but with the mindset that there was no evil God created in the beginning He only used the GOOD things in a way we never expected!🙂

quote
"While Genesis 1:31 affirms that creation was initially “very good,” this describes a specific point in time, before the entrance of sin, rebellion, and human disobedience. In narratives like the Flood, God explicitly declares His intention to destroy life: “I am going to destroy all flesh” (Gen 6:13). Water functions merely as the instrument, not as a morally neutral “tool” accidentally redirected; the destructive intent originates from God Himself. Similarly, Isaiah 45:7 explicitly states that God creates both peace and calamity (raʿ), indicating that divine judgment, not human misuse of resources, is the source of disaster. Holiness does not mean that God refrains from issuing destruction—it means He never acts immorally. Reducing all calamity to “redirection of good things” imposes a philosophical comfort onto the text and ignores the consistent biblical pattern of intentional divine judgment, where instruments like rain, fire, or armies are secondary to God’s sovereign will. Reading Scripture with this mindset—acknowledging divine sovereignty and moral purpose—does not diminish God’s goodness; it shows that judgment and destruction are fully compatible with His holiness and justice."

The fact remains that God never created anything evil everything He made was GOOD.
So it's rebellious humans who won't take to His purposes that will make Him redirect what is GOOD for another purpose.

Take for instance God created humans with the ability to communicate through the gift of speaking but when inhabitants of Babel decided to remain in one location instead of spreading to all the corners of the earth as God wanted {Genesis 1:28} He redirected their gift of speech to contradict themselves so that they left Babel and scattered throughout the earth! Genesis 11:1-9

Now to prove His ability that He is the one who gave humans the ability to speak God redirected the speeches of Jesus' first century disciples so they began speaking languages they themselves don't understand thinking they were still speaking their normal language while their audience are hearing different tongues according to the person each disciple is talking to! Act 2:4

Please what is evil in the gift of speech?🙂

Disinfectant123:
quote
"While Genesis 1:31 affirms that creation was initially “very good,” this describes a specific point in time, before the entrance of sin, rebellion, and human disobedience. In narratives like the Flood, God explicitly declares His intention to destroy life: “I am going to destroy all flesh” (Gen 6:13). Water functions merely as the instrument, not as a morally neutral “tool” accidentally redirected; the destructive intent originates from God Himself. Similarly, Isaiah 45:7 explicitly states that God creates both peace and calamity (raʿ), indicating that divine judgment, not human misuse of resources, is the source of disaster. Holiness does not mean that God refrains from issuing destruction—it means He never acts immorally. Reducing all calamity to “redirection of good things” imposes a philosophical comfort onto the text and ignores the consistent biblical pattern of intentional divine judgment, where instruments like rain, fire, or armies are secondary to God’s sovereign will. Reading Scripture with this mindset—acknowledging divine sovereignty and moral purpose—does not diminish God’s goodness; it shows that judgment and destruction are fully compatible with His holiness and justice."

Dtruthspeaker:
.............

u think i have time to read the filth you typed?

Dog.

MaxInDHouse:
The fact remains that God never created anything evil everything He made was GOOD.
So it's rebellious humans who won't take to His purposes that will make Him redirect what is GOOD for another purpose.

Take for instance God created humans with the ability to communicate through the gift of speaking but when inhabitants of Babel decided to remain in one location instead of spreading to all the corners of the earth as God wanted {Genesis 1:28} He redirected their gift of speech to contradict themselves so that they left Babel and scattered throughout the earth! Genesis 11:1-9

Now to prove His ability that He is the one who gave humans the ability to speak God redirected the speeches of Jesus' first century disciples so they began speaking languages they themselves don't understand thinking they were still speaking their normal language while their audience are hearing different tongues according to the person each disciple is talking to! Act 2:4

Please what is evil in the gift of speech?🙂

He was made good and decided to kill kids because of their parents actions? So evil moustache man did some good deeds does that make him good? I thought adults would have common sense. Still havent debunked my points, Him doing some evil deeds debunks him being all loving.

Disinfectant123:
Again fairytale

Very hot eternal fire coming your way. Just exercise little patience.

Disinfectant123:
He was made good and decided to kill kids because of their parents actions? So evil moustache man did some good deeds does that make him good? I thought adults would have common sense. Still havent debunked my points, Him doing some evil deeds debunks him being all loving.

How do you expect parents dead while kids are left to suffer with no one to cater for them?
I thought you wanted to reason o!🤔

bolabizzle:
Very hot eternal fire coming your way. Just exercise little patience.

No thanks fictional being

MaxInDHouse:
How do you expect parents dead while kids are left to suffer with no one to cater for them?
I thought you wanted to reason o!🤔

Cant god take care of them?

Disinfectant123:
Cant god take care of them?

How?
What He said is it's parents that should raise their children so if such parents can't then their products (children) must not live.
Of course they will be raised in Paradise where true Christians will cater for them as all the resources on planet earth will be managed by God's organization not now that people are still fighting and killing for natural resources!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
How do you expect parents dead while kids are left to suffer with no one to cater for them?
I thought you wanted to reason o!🤔

Are you saying God decided the kids should be killed too since there is no parent to raise them?

MaxInDHouse:
How?
What He said is it's parents that should raise their children so if such parents can't then their products (children) must not live.
Of course they will be raised in Paradise where true Christians will cater for them as all the resources on planet earth will be managed by God's organization not now that people are still fighting and killing for natural resources!🙂

Wdym "How"
Isnt he all powerful?

Moderator101:
Are you saying God decided the kids should be killed too since there is no parent to raise them?

But i expected to see adults on this forum nah, who is giving babies phones to join in intelligent discussions!😟
Of what benefits are children without parents to cater for them?

Disinfectant123:
Wdym "How"
Isnt he all powerful?

Even God's son was raised by Joseph and Mary!🙂

sonmvayina:
The creator is responsible for both good and evil, I mean, how else can he be "Almighty"?
That portion in Isaiah 45 was written when the Jews where in captivity in Babylon. They were sent there by God to learn about him. Babylon was like USA, today. people go to the US for economic purposes i.e to make money, people went to Babylon in those ancient days for religious and spiritual purposes, it had all the religious and learning centres.
The Babylonian had a chief God who was the creator of heaven and earth and the lesser gods (Who the yorubas call orishas and who Jeremiah refers to as the "Sons of God" in the book of Job.
if we look at Isaiah 44-47 it is mainly about the supremacy of God. isaiah made it clear that there was no one beside him. he is the only one. he created the world all by himself as a way of assuring the Jews not to be carried away by those worshipping Inanna, Enlil etc. They should know that God is the only one and power in the universe, if he says A no one can change it to B. he is sovereign over all his creation. He creates and he destroys. There is no separate God for good and evil. there is only one God that is responsible for both good and evil, nothing happens with your his okay.
God is ONE. whatever happens whether good or evil, happens because it is his WILL.

Do you mean that God does evil to people that obey and worship him?

Truthseeker10:
Do you mean that God does evil to people that obey and worship him?

Dont be celly,
is God a human being?
please think and rephrase your inquiry?

sonmvayina:
Dont be celly,
is God a human being?
please think and rephrase your inquiry?

Did you not claim that the creator is responsible for both good and evil? Does that not include the evil that happens to good people and those that worship God?

bolabizzle:
u think i have time to read the filth you typed?

Dog.

You already read it and there is nothing more you can reasonable say, so keeping in line that you are condemned, you have to insalt me to have a little happiness

MaxInDHouse:
Even God's son was raised by Joseph and Mary!🙂

howdoes this address my point

Disinfectant123:
howdoes this address my point

God doesn't raise babies!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
God doesn't raise babies!🙂

Ah the excuses

Truthseeker10:
Do you mean that God does evil to people that obey and worship him?

I mean churches getting blown up says alot

Disinfectant123:
I mean churches getting blown up says alot

Who blew up the churches?