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Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:16pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Yet they killed him precisely for claiming to be God

John 10:33
The Jews answered Him, “We are not going to stone You for a good work, but for blasphemy, because You, a mere man, make Yourself out to be God.”
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Please also tell me who were called sons of God in the book of Job.

​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)


And tell me if they were human.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:17pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of the one and only true God.

So he totally differs from all other beings!🙂
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​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)

Who were these other sons if Jesus is the only one?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:18pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Many have made that claim. Olumba Olumba Obu springs to mind. So does Abd Ru Shin.

However I can cite numerous verses where Jesus denied being God.
He had to - to avoid being killed before the appointed time.
Do you know any other Jew that would not stone YOU if you called them God. Jesus accepted being called and treated ad God
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:19pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Please also tell me who were called sons of God in the book of Job.

​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)


And tell me if they were human.
Angels
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:20pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Angels
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Oga your Bible called them sons of God. Period.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:20pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)
Who were these other sons if Jesus is the only one?
I said ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God not only son.

I hope you are shocked the bolded
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:20pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
He had to - to avoid being killed before the appointed time.
Do you know any other Jew that would not stone YOU if you called them God. Jesus accepted being called and treated ad God
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Never. He actually rebuked those who called him God.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:21pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
I said ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God not only son.

I hope you are shocked the bolded
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I hope you are not drinking.

How are those other beings sons of God if they are not begotten by God?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:23pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Many have made that claim. Olumba Olumba Obu springs to mind. So does Abd Ru Shin.

However I can cite numerous verses where Jesus denied being God.
And how did it work out for them? Did people realise they were really God after they died? Did their ministry grow and encompass the world their words never passing away?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:24pm On Jan 07
Oh, I see!
So you are here to insult people sorry abeg waka pass my side!🤣

DeepSight:
I hope you are not drinking.
How are those other beings sons of God if they are not begotten by God?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:25pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
Oh, I see!
So you are here to insult people sorry abeg waka pass my side!🤣
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I repeat - how are they sons of God if not begotten by God?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:26pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
And how did it work out for them? Did people realise they were really God after they died? Did their ministry grow and encompass the world their words never passing away?
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Their ministries are alive and well and comparatively doing well compared to Jesus' ministry if you look at how long they have existed.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:26pm On Jan 07
musicwriter:
You think you're talking to someone with no knowledge of history?

What exactly did Tacitus say? Where's your primary source?

Again, be informed that before your Jesus, Ptolemy 1 Soter called himself "Christ" about 300 BC. So, if Tacitus mentioned a "Christ"; could it be he was talking about Ptolemy Soter?
Nobody knew Jesus, even the Pharisees had to be shown who he was. So you can say anything OBVIOUSLY written about Him was not about Him!
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:28pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Their ministries are alive and well and comparatively doing well compared to Jesus' ministry if you look at how long they have existed.
Who said he was God 1000 years ago whose ministry is around today?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:29pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Never. He actually rebuked those who called him God.
Give example
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:30pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
I said ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God not only son.

I hope you are shocked the bolded
Can you explain "begotten son"? Begotten by who
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:32pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Who said he was God 1000 years ago whose ministry is around today?
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Why must it be 1000 years ago. These people claimed they were God within the 20th century and their ministries are doing well. How do you know how their ministries will be after 1000 years?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:32pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
I repeat - how are they sons of God if not begotten by God?
You still dey my domot?

Abeg waka pass my side i no get time for insults today!🤣
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by musicwriter(m): 8:33pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
you KNOW Jesus is alive because of personal experience with him!
No one needs to tell those dealing with demonic attacks that Jesus is alive, and that demons tremble at mention of that name! You only have mouth because you're not dealing with any supernatural attacks!
You don't need Jesus to experience that comforting feeling. Other religions around the world experience the same feeling in the name of their God.

In fact, it's not even spiritual. Example, it's the same thing that happens when a mega star like Michael Jackson is performing on stage. When Jackson is on stage, some crazy fans catch that electrifying feeling and fall down. But religion has led you to call it "falling under the anointing" when it's just hysteria

Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:37pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Can you explain "begotten son"? Begotten by who
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV

Is this what you want me to explain or not?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:40pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Why must it be 1000 years ago. These people claimed they were God within the 20th century and their ministries are doing well. How do you know how their ministries will be after 1000 years?
That's the point. Jesus Godship has stood the test of time. I've never heard of anyone worshipping Olumba Olumba as God, or anyone claiming to be God for that matter
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:40pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
You still dey my domot?

Abeg waka pass my side i no get time for insults today!🤣
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Good excuse.

The scripture remains there to taunt you. It clearly says there were other sons of God and even Satan was one of them.

Enjoy yourself as to how God begat them.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 8:41pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
That's the point. Jesus Godship has stood the test of time. I've never heard of anyone worshipping Olumba Olumba as God, or anyone claiming to be God for that matter
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Oh, many many many men are worshipped as God, and that has been the case even long before Jesus.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:42pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV

Is this what you want me to explain or not?
Begotten by whom? When? Ask your supervisor elder
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Good excuse.
The scripture remains there to taunt you. It clearly says there were other sons of God and even Satan was one of them.
Enjoy yourself as to how God begat them.
Oga abeg waka pass my side i no ready for insults today!🤣
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:44pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Begotten by whom? When? Ask your supervisor elder
Did you believe what God's word said or not? John 3:16🙂
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:45pm On Jan 07
musicwriter:
You don't need Jesus to experience that comforting feeling. Other religions around the world experience the same feeling in the name of their God.

In fact, it's not even spiritual. Example, it's the same thing that happens when a mega star like Michael Jackson is performing on stage. When Jackson is on stage, some crazy fans catch that electrifying feeling and fall down. But religion has led you to call it "falling under the anointing" when it's just hysteria
It is more than a comforting feeling. It is a KNOWING beyond any doubt. Certitude
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:46pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
Did you believe what God's word said or not?🙂
Of course I do. Now answer my questions
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 8:48pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Oh, many many many men are worshipped as God, and that has been the case even long before Jesus.
Mention ONE person today being worshipped as God by a major religion
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:49pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Of course I do. Now answer my questions
QuinQ:
Begotten by whom? When? Ask your supervisor elder
Don't you have elders in your church?
Why must i be the one to ask my elders if what you are asking is found in your copy of the Bible and you claim to BELIEVE it?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by musicwriter(m): 8:51pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
It is more than a comforting feeling. It is a KNOWING beyond any doubt. Certitude
Shango worshipers experience the same thing.

Muslims do too with Muhammad.

Hinduists..........

Buddhists........

Etc.

So, there's nothing special about your Jesus
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:00pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Mention ONE person today being worshipped as God by a major religion
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Why must it be today and why must it be a major religion?

So Jesus was not worshipped as God in the first century by any major religion as well. Did that mean he wasnt God according to you?

And if Olumba Olumba Obu is worshipped as God by all major religions one thousand years from now, will that transform him into God?

Think, man, think!
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