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Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:02pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
Oga abeg waka pass my side i no ready for insults today!🤣
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All because you cant answer your own scripture.
Enjoy, you cant delete Job 1:6.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:09pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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All because you cant answer your own scripture.
Enjoy, you cant delete Job 1:6.
After insulting me shey?
Ọmọ nothing for you tonight it will be reserved for a seriously interested person!🙂
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:11pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
After insulting me shey?
Ọmọ nothing for you tonight it will be reserved for a seriously interested person!🙂
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Don't be a kid.
I only asked if you were drinking.
I was and still am by the way.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:12pm On Jan 07
musicwriter:
You don't need Jesus to experience that comforting feeling. Other religions around the world experience the same feeling in the name of their God.

In fact, it's not even spiritual. Example, it's the same thing that happens when a mega star like Michael Jackson is performing on stage. When Jackson is on stage, some crazy fans catch that electrifying feeling and fall down. But religion has led you to call it "falling under the anointing" when it's just hysteria
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Not only hysteria but many times outright pretense and fakery. Acting.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:12pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Don't be a kid.
I only asked if you were drinking.
I was and still am by the way.
Keep on asking jàre! Matthew 7:7🤣
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:14pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
Keep on asking jàre! Matthew 7:7🤣
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What's the problem. Surely you know JWs don't condemn alcohol, only the abuse of it.

Men!

You guys are unbelievable in your rose tinted glasses.

Job 1:6 remains evidence that Satan is also a begotten son of your Yahweh.

Bwahahahahahahhahahahhaha! Apologies to LordReed.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:18pm On Jan 07
If you can solve the puzzle yourself then why asking me?🤣

DeepSight:
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What's the problem. Surely you know JWs don't condemn alcohol, only the abuse of it.
Men!
You guys are unbelievable in your rose tinted glasses.
Job 1:6 remains evidence that Satan is also a begotten son of your Yahweh.
Bwahahahahahahhahahahhaha! Apologies to LordReed.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:21pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Why must it be today and why must it be a major religion?

So Jesus was not worshipped as God in the first century by any major religion as well. Did that mean he wasnt God according to you?

And if Olumba Olumba Obu is worshipped as God by all major religions one thousand years from now, will that transform him into God?

Think, man, think!
Yiu are clearly the one not thinking. If I told you Jesus's Godship has been time-tested that means I won't fault anyone who didn't believe His Godship in the Ist century. But after 2000 years?! Not only that, Christ himself said there'd be many flash-in- the-pan "Christs" and how you know is that after a while they'd disappear
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:21pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
If you can solve the puzzle yourself then why asking me?🤣
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I have since solved it. All the beings in Job 1:6 were sons of God including Satan.

So how is Jesus the only begotten one.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:22pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Yiu are clearly the one not thinking. If I told you Jesus's Godship has been time-tested that means I won't fault anyone who didn't believe His Godship in the Ist century. But after 2000 years?! Not only that, Christ himself said there'd be many flash-in- the-pan "Christs" and how you know is that after a while they'd disappear
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So according to you a man is God if it is believed by many people over a long period.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:23pm On Jan 07
musicwriter:
Shango worshipers experience the same thing.

Muslims do too with Muhammad.

Hinduists..........

Buddhists........

Etc.

So, there's nothing special about your Jesus
None of those believe their founder to be God
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:26pm On Jan 07
Are you still asking a drunkard?🤣

DeepSight:
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I have since solved it. All the beings in Job 1:6 were sons of God including Satan.
So how is Jesus the only begotten one.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by musicwriter(m): 9:32pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
None of those believe their founder to be God
Neither did the early Christians say that your Jesus was God. Jesus was only declared as God by the Roman empire in 325 AD at the council of Nivea. But, of course, Jesus NEVER existed, so it's wrong to say that he started a religion
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:33pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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So according to you a man is God if it is believed by many people over a long period.
No, I'm only saying Jesus is the only man claiming to be God who has stood a 500+-year test of time
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:36pm On Jan 07
musicwriter:
Neither did the early Christians say that your Jesus was God. Jesus was only declared as God by the Roman empire in 325 AD at the council of Nivea. But, of course, Jesus NEVER existed, so it's wrong to say that he started a religion
Thomas called Him God. If He never existed who were all those disciples willing to be tortured snd die for?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:39pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
No, I'm only saying Jesus is the only man claiming to be God who has stood a 500+-year test of time
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SAME THING. IT REQUIRES A LONG TIME OF HUMAN BELIEF. THATS WHAT YOU ARE STILL SAYING.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:40pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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I have since solved it. All the beings in Job 1:6 were sons of God including Satan.

So how is Jesus the only begotten one.
They were created not begotten
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:42pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
They were created not begotten
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Where did you get this from?
And what is the difference?
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:42pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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SAME THING. IT REQUIRES A LONG TIME OF HUMAN BELIEF. THATS WHAT YOU ARE STILL SAYING.
A long time of God ALLOWING it
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:43pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
A long time of God ALLOWING it
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Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha!

You dont even know that many have seen others as God for centuries before Jesus!
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:44pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Where did you get this from?
And what is the difference?
In the NT
Created - they were made
Begotten - eternally Begotten of God.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:45pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha!

You dont even know that many have seen others as God for centuries before Jesus!
Give example. Romans had gods, so did others
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:47pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
In the NT
Created - they were made
Begotten - eternally Begotten of God.
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Please describe what begotten means. Because I don't understand. Begotten how? From what? As in did he give birth or what are you saying?

In doing so be careful.

Because being begotten means having a beginning.

Now, God is said to be eternal and to have no beginning.

So how will a person who is begotten then also be God?

Be careful, think carefully.
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by musicwriter(m): 9:48pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Thomas called Him God. If He never existed who were all those disciples willing to be tortured snd die for?
Jesus disciples never existed too. The idea of 12 disciples came from ancient Egyptian's 12 disciples of Horus
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:48pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
Don't you have elders in your church?
Why must i be the one to ask my elders if what you are asking is found in your copy of the Bible and you claim to BELIEVE it?
I just want you to articulate the difference between your belief and that of Trinitarians
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:48pm On Jan 07
Where is sonmvayina?
Come and see the commotion you caused! 🤣
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:50pm On Jan 07
musicwriter:
Jesus disciples never existed too. The idea of 12 disciples came from ancient Egyptian's 12 disciples of Horus
So Horus also wrote all the searingly inspired words in the NT of the lives and acts of.the apostles. WHY??
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by DeepSight(m): 9:51pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
Give example. Romans had gods, so did others
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So your distinction is small and big "G"
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:51pm On Jan 07
MaxInDHouse:
Where is sonmvayina?
Come and see the commotion you caused! 🤣
Maybe he is musicwriter
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:54pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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Please describe what begotten means. Because I don't understand. Begotten how? From what? As in did he give birth or what are you saying?

In doing so be careful.

Because being begotten means having a beginning.

Now, God is said to be eternal and to have no beginning.

So how will a person who is begotten then also be God?

Be careful, think carefully.
Did you read what I wrote? ETERNALLY begotten not created
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by QuinQ: 9:56pm On Jan 07
DeepSight:
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So your distinction is small and big "G"
The distinction is monotheism. Pagans also believe the sticks they carved are gods
Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by musicwriter(m): 10:06pm On Jan 07
QuinQ:
So Horus also wrote all the swearingly inspired words in the NT of the lives and acts of.the apostles. WHY??
The stories about your Jesus in the New testament is a generic story about a savior, Messiah, redeemer as it was told in ancient times, thousands of years before anybody heard about your Jesus.

The story was not talking about any particular person because it evolved thousands (if not millions) of years from the life of the snake. It is the Roman empire that affixed Jesus to it to tell their own version.

That's why if you read carefully, you'll notice that the writers are writing as the third person, so that even as Mathew was supposedly writing as an eyewitness to an event but he keeps on saying "Jesus said to Mathew" or "Jesus said to his disciples" even when he was the one supposedly writing!! At no time did any supposed eyewitness say "Jesus told me" or "Jesus told us".

But if you care to know, that's because the author of the book of Mathew never saw Jesus, instead he was just narrating a story as it was told for thousands of years by different cultures around the world before anybody heard about your Jesus
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