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So FreeStuffsNG created a thread where he tried to gaslight us using the situation in Venezuela. He is trying to connect the South American county's situation to Nigeria trying to convince us as Nigerians not to trust the United States.

THIS IS A BLANTANT LIE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.

Venezuela has the largest oil reserves. But has no money or technology to extract and refine the oil. They had a contract with the USA and they tried to seize the facilities the US built in Venezuela.

MOST IMPORTANTLY. NEXT TIME SOMEONE TELLS YOU THE USA ARE THIEVES, REMIND THEM THAT.

QATAR
SAUDI ARABIA
UAE
JAPAN
SOUTH KOREA

are all extremely close partners of the United States and they are prosperous and have no issues with the USA.

All the countries above have active USA bases in them with us military on ground. USA did not steal their resources.
They are countries that are very developed. So why are countries such as Venezuela where a dictator who killed thousands of his own people having problems with the USA?

What are Nigerian Muslims so scared of? How many times do you see FreeStuffsNG or other radical Muslims here on nairaland open thread to condem their Muslim brothers in the north that are killing everyone?

When people say "School na scam", it's because of people like this OP.

Imagine OUTLINING several premises just to arrive at a conclusion that is NOT even in the same continent as your premises.

First of all, you clearly stated that the countries you listed are "US ALLIES" with "US Military Bases" yet in the same breath you ask what the DIFFERENCE is between them and Venezuela.

School FAILED you.

Critical Thinking is the most BASIC thing every graduate must come out of school with.
Yet OP seems to be DEVOID of that.

NOT oil thieves?

Yet they STOLE.the LARGEST tanker in the world.
And CONTINUE to steal more.

Or are you UNAWARE of the news that Chevron KNEW about the attack BEFORE Congress.

Or the fact that there are plans in place to make Venezuela's oil EXCLUSIVE to the US.

Or the fact the money from the Crude Oil.might NOT even get to Venezuela.
And instead they'd be used to buy American EXPENSIVE GARBAGE to be given to Venezuela.

ARE YOU JUST PLAIN DMUB?

Namaster:
When people say "School na scam", it's because of people like this OP.

Imagine OUTLINING several premises just to arrive at a conclusion that is NOT even in the same continent as your premises.

just tell me you are a Muslim and I will understand.

HardMirror:
just tell me you are a Muslim and I will understand.

Mr Man with a mind DIMINISHED like yours, I could face the East, SLAM my head on the floor with my ass up in the air and you'd arrive at the conclusion that I'm trying to transform into a UNICORN.

HardMirror:
So FreeStuffsNG created a thread where he tried to gaslight us using the situation in Venezuela. He is trying to connect the South American county's situation to Nigeria trying to convince us as Nigerians not to trust the United States.

THIS IS A BLANTANT LIE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.

Venezuela has the largest oil reserves. But has no money or technology to extract and refine the oil. They had a contract with the USA and they tried to seize the facilities the US built in Venezuela.

MOST IMPORTANTLY. NEXT TIME SOMEONE TELLS YOU THE USA ARE THIEVES, REMIND THEM THAT.

QATAR
SAUDI ARABIA
UAE
JAPAN
SOUTH KOREA

are all extremely close partners of the United States and they are prosperous and have no issues with the USA.

All the countries above have active USA bases in them with us military on ground. USA did not steal their resources.
They are countries that are very developed. So why are countries such as Venezuela where a dictator who killed thousands of his own people having problems with the USA?

What are Nigerian Muslims so scared of? How many times do you see FreeStuffsNG or other radical Muslims here on nairaland open thread to condem their Muslim brothers in the north that are killing everyone?

I'm a Christian, but your point is from a naive point of view if you were to reduce anti American sentiments to a binary of religions. Secondly, have you done your findings and not recognize that the Saudi monarchy, which is as abhorrent as a dictatorship, also murders it's citizens. If you're in doubt, go ask the Shia in Saudi Arabia, yet the US cozies up to them. The UAE, Bahrain, Oman, are all friends and allies of the US, but their respective monarchies murder their own subjects. Why have the US not raised an eyebrow. Saudi Arabia is currently pounding South Yemen and killing unarmed citizens. Why is the US not threatening the Saudi Monarchy with invasion?

Thirdly, doesn't Venezuela retain the right to deal with whomever it pleases? When Trump got into office and began to unilaterally impose trade tarrifs on other countries, did he honour previously signed agreements?

The long and short of the whole story is that the US is a country of blood soaked bandits, and bullies only small countries. Someday, I pray it'd invade north Korea and test its military superiority. After all NK fires missiles every now and then.

HardMirror:
So FreeStuffsNG created a thread where he tried to gaslight us using the situation in Venezuela. He is trying to connect the South American county's situation to Nigeria trying to convince us as Nigerians not to trust the United States.

THIS IS A BLANTANT LIE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.

Venezuela has the largest oil reserves. But has no money or technology to extract and refine the oil. They had a contract with the USA and they tried to seize the facilities the US built in Venezuela.

MOST IMPORTANTLY. NEXT TIME SOMEONE TELLS YOU THE USA ARE THIEVES, REMIND THEM THAT.

QATAR
SAUDI ARABIA
UAE
JAPAN
SOUTH KOREA

are all extremely close partners of the United States and they are prosperous and have no issues with the USA.

All the countries above have active USA bases in them with us military on ground. USA did not steal their resources.
They are countries that are very developed. So why are countries such as Venezuela where a dictator who killed thousands of his own people having problems with the USA?

What are Nigerian Muslims so scared of? How many times do you see FreeStuffsNG or other radical Muslims here on nairaland open thread to condem their Muslim brothers in the north that are killing everyone?

The propaganda about US stealing oil is so strong that it wasn't until recently that I myself found out that US does not take the oil without payment.

They buy like Russia, China, India or anyone else. They only issue is they will stop China and Russia from buying if they are currently buying from you.

For some reasons, China and Russia like business with dictators.

HardMirror:
So FreeStuffsNG created a thread where he tried to gaslight us using the situation in Venezuela. He is trying to connect the South American county's situation to Nigeria trying to convince us as Nigerians not to trust the United States.

THIS IS A BLANTANT LIE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.

Venezuela has the largest oil reserves. But has no money or technology to extract and refine the oil. They had a contract with the USA and they tried to seize the facilities the US built in Venezuela.

MOST IMPORTANTLY. NEXT TIME SOMEONE TELLS YOU THE USA ARE THIEVES, REMIND THEM THAT.

QATAR
SAUDI ARABIA
UAE
JAPAN
SOUTH KOREA

are all extremely close partners of the United States and they are prosperous and have no issues with the USA.

All the countries above have active USA bases in them with us military on ground. USA did not steal their resources.
They are countries that are very developed. So why are countries such as Venezuela where a dictator who killed thousands of his own people having problems with the USA?

What are Nigerian Muslims so scared of? How many times do you see FreeStuffsNG or other radical Muslims here on nairaland open thread to condem their Muslim brothers in the north that are killing everyone?

I think you completely misunderstood or failed to comprehend the intellectual basis of my position on my original post.
I am actually celebrating Nigerians for toeing a more rewarding and sensible path.

On USA, how many times does Trump needs to tell you that you are not his priority sir?

Svoboda:
I'm a Christian, but your point is from a naive point of view if you were to reduce anti American sentiments to a binary of religions. Secondly, have you done your findings and not recognize that the Saudi monarchy, which is as abhorrent as a dictatorship, also murders it's citizens. If you're in doubt, go ask the Shia in Saudi Arabia, yet the US cozies up to them. The UAE, Bahrain, Oman, are all friends and allies of the US, but their respective monarchies murder their own subjects. Why have the US not raised an eyebrow. Saudi Arabia is currently pounding South Yemen and killing unarmed citizens. Why is the US not threatening the Saudi Monarchy with invasion?

Thirdly, doesn't Venezuela retain the right to deal with whomever it pleases? When Trump got into office and began to unilaterally impose trade tarrifs on other countries, did he honour previously signed agreements?

The long and short of the whole story is that the US is a country of blood soaked bandits, and bullies only small countries. Someday, I pray it'd invade north Korea and test its military superiority. After all NK fires missiles every now and then.

I appreciate your detailed and honest response. I read everything and I absolutely agree with you.

I am not making this about religion. But if you pay attention, you will understand that for Nigeria, it is more about religion. Where Muslims are opening thread after thread to discredit the US. Or those who are just APC supporters.

Now here is the real issue. Those countries you mentioned are Islamic countries with Islam based constitution and over 90% population that agrees with the killings as they see it as justice. The US cannot intervene so much in those countries. But in Iran, a huge population is against the ayatolla. Same with Venezuela. He lost 70% of the population. These are cases where the US sees reason to step in.

Would we rather allow these killers to remain in power? The UN HAS NO POWER. in the case of Nigeria, it is very very clear the government is not committed to securing lives. This is not about resources for us the citizens. The US are business people. At the end of the day they do not steal resources as falsely claimed. As for the tankers they seize. That is a geopolitical power play. You think the US needs 2 tankers or what? They are rightly driving away the Russians and Chinese by sizing the tankers. It is naive to call that stealing oil as if that amount of oil is useful to them.

FreeStuffsNG:
I think you completely misunderstood or failed to comprehend the intellectual basis of my position on my original post.
I am actually celebrating Nigerians for toeing a more rewarding and sensible path.

On USA, how many times does Trump needs to tell you that you are not his priority sir?

you talk as if Nigerians are the priority of the government. Same Nigerian government that made idi0ts the minister of defence and his deputy too. Showing that politics supercedes doing the job. Too many people have died and this is less about Trump and more about the mentality and priorities of our leaders. All these defence about USA not having our interest are irrelevant.

Karleb:
The propaganda about US stealing oil is so strong that it wasn't until recently that I myself found out that US does not take the oil without payment.

They buy like Russia, China, India or anyone else. They only issue is they will stop China and Russia from buying if they are currently buying from you.

For some reasons, China and Russia like business with dictators.

they are saying USA stole 2 oil tankers. 😂
Pretending or just ignorant of the reason why those tankers were seized

Svoboda:
I'm a Christian, but your point is from a naive point of view if you were to reduce anti American sentiments to a binary of religions. Secondly, have you done your findings and not recognize that the Saudi monarchy, which is as abhorrent as a dictatorship, also murders it's citizens. If you're in doubt, go ask the Shia in Saudi Arabia, yet the US cozies up to them. The UAE, Bahrain, Oman, are all friends and allies of the US, but their respective monarchies murder their own subjects. Why have the US not raised an eyebrow. Saudi Arabia is currently pounding South Yemen and killing unarmed citizens. Why is the US not threatening the Saudi Monarchy with invasion?

Thirdly, doesn't Venezuela retain the right to deal with whomever it pleases? When Trump got into office and began to unilaterally impose trade tarrifs on other countries, did he honour previously signed agreements?

The long and short of the whole story is that the US is a country of blood soaked bandits, and bullies only small countries. Someday, I pray it'd invade north Korea and test its military superiority. After all NK fires missiles every now and then.

by the way. I clearly see where you are coming from. I see your bias, but I will ignore it. I will also ignore the lie that you are a Christian

HardMirror:
by the way. I clearly see where you are coming from. I see your bias, but I will ignore it. I will also ignore the lie that you are a Christian

You expect anyone who denounces the US gangsterism to be a Muslim?

Svoboda:
You expect anyone who denounces the US gangsterism to be a Muslim?

no. Millions of liberals do not like the USA anyway. But in your case. It is obvious where you are coming from. I am not a Christian by the way.

HardMirror:
no. Millions of liberals do not like the USA anyway. But in your case. It is obvious where you are coming from. I am not a Christian by the way.

I am a Christian and an anti imperialist. Isn't Maduro a practicing catholic? Likewise Chavez. The US deploys any tools that serve their purpose in any context. You think Trump really loves Christians to want to protect them as a community in Nigeria? Why doesn't he profile the religion of Nigerians before deporting them or grant visa waivers to Nigerian Christians seeking to move to the US?

The majority of Latin America are Christians. Why is he shutting the borders against them and deporting those in the US, while the non Christian rich Saudis Asians are allowed to stay. Trump is a bandit who steals people's assets.

Svoboda:
I am a Christian and an anti imperialist. Isn't Maduro a practicing catholic? Likewise Chavez. The US deploys any tools that serve their purpose in any context. You think Trump really loves Christians to want to protect them as a community in Nigeria? Why doesn't he profile the religion of Nigerians before deporting them or grant visa waivers to Nigerian Christians seeking to move to the US?

The majority of Latin America are Christians. Why is he shutting the borders against them and deporting those in the US, while the non Christian rich Saudis Asians are allowed to stay. Trump is a bandit who steals people's assets.

I do not think Trump loves Nigerian Christians. But as far as Nigeria's case is concerned, he has brought a lot more attention to what is happening than any human has. An I do not agree they want to come and steal our resources. That is what Nigerian politicians want us to believe so they can continue business as usual.

Svoboda:
I am a Christian and an anti imperialist. Isn't Maduro a practicing catholic? Likewise Chavez. The US deploys any tools that serve their purpose in any context. You think Trump really loves Christians to want to protect them as a community in Nigeria? Why doesn't he profile the religion of Nigerians before deporting them or grant visa waivers to Nigerian Christians seeking to move to the US?

The majority of Latin America are Christians. Why is he shutting the borders against them and deporting those in the US, while the non Christian rich Saudis Asians are allowed to stay. Trump is a bandit who steals people's assets.

hahahaha. This stupid talk of visa again. This really exposes how simple minded you are. The USA should have restricted Nigeria's assess long time ago. Saudis are better guests than Nigerians. The amount of visa fraud from Nigeria should put us in very severe blacklist if developed countries were serious.

HardMirror:
I do not think Trump loves Nigerian Christians. But as far as Nigeria's case is concerned, he has brought a lot more attention to what is happening than any human has. An I do not agree they want to come and steal our resources. That is what Nigerian politicians want us to believe so they can continue business as usual.

Is it a string of coincidences that US boots always land where they're resources? From Venezuela, he's talking about Greenland. Greenland is bigger than Germany in size and has rich deposits of rare earths. Likewise Nigeria. He just engineered a useless peace deal between Congo Dr and Rwanda because of the rich minerals in eastern Congo. What about Iraq, Libya. Libya has the largest oil deposits in Africa. The list is endless. Even Afghanistan. The CIA was running poppy fields in Afghanistan, just like they did in Vietnam. In those two scenarios, they were humilitedly defeated. US soldiers came back in body bags from Vietnam. The US only bullies small countries but runs from confrontation when bigger countries emerge.

Svoboda:
Is it a string of coincidences that US boots always land where they're resources? From Venezuela, he's talking about Greenland. Greenland is bigger than Germany in size and has rich deposits of rare earths. Likewise Nigeria. He just engineered a useless peace deal between Congo Dr and Rwanda because of the rich minerals in eastern Congo. What about Iraq, Libya. Libya has the largest oil deposits in Africa. The list is endless. Even Afghanistan. The CIA was running poppy fields in Afghanistan, just like they did in Vietnam. In those two scenarios, they were humilitedly defeated. US soldiers came back in body bags from Vietnam. The US only bullies small countries but runs from confrontation when bigger countries emerge.

you forgot to mention Russia and China. Edit your response and talk about how all world powers are playing the exact same game. You are just so desperate with this USA bad narrative. Of cos Saudi UAE, Qatar Japan Taiwan Korea are horrible places very terrible places where USA is stealing their resources and leaving them poor.

HardMirror:
you forgot to mention Russia and China. Edit your response and talk about how all world powers are playing the exact same game. You are just so desperate with this USA bad narrative. Of cos Saudi UAE, Qatar Japan Taiwan Korea are horrible places very terrible places where USA is stealing their resources and leaving them poor.

China and Russia are exempted because they both respect the sovereignity of other countries and do not interfere and invade to steal resources. If you must mention Ukraine, Russia is fighting a war for its values and survival.