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DeepSight:
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What sort of story is this.

LordReed, MaxInDHouse, sonmvayina tctrills, bolabizzle, MightySparrow

LordReed:
They should go see a mental health expert, I am not one nor can a diagnosis be done by proxy. You thinking it is demonic is only emblematic of the problem with superstition in Africa and African culture.

For instance my daughter had persistent stomach ache not even doctors diagnosed properly until I figured out she had a wheat allegy. Left to people like you na prayer una go dey do. LoLz.

QuinQ:
You still have not answered the simple questions you were asked but keep parroting the same inanity.
Everything you mentioned is irrelevant to Christian belief except worship of Jesus as God - you LIED! They worshipped Jesus as God almost from the very begining!

QuinQ:
If your daughter invariably had stomach ache every time you sleep with your girlfriend, how would science explain that? That's the kind of thing we're talking about

DeepSight:
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Holy Moses!
Gentle me?

DeepSight:
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I always seek to force people to study and do better.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

MaxInDHouse:
Gentle people don't force their ideas on others we PLEAD with them.
That's what makes Jesus the most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6}

I Maximus am one of his TRUE disciples:

QuinQ:
So begotten means created? Wow! So why not just say created. Also when God said "let is make man...", why didn't he just say "make man in our image...". Proving he wasn't giving orders to someone. Also Psalm 33:9 made clear He spoke the world into existence, not through orders: "For he spoke, and it came to be; he commanded, and it appeared". Na wa for this your theology o.

DeepSight:
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I have educated you on what is translated as only begotten and it does not mean what you claim here.

MaxInDHouse:
We don't force this on anyone if you are not in agreement with this it's OK you are free to pitch your tent with those who agree with you!🙂

DeepSight:
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You lack humility.
Secondly Jesus flogged people.

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

musicwriter:
The Nicene creed or declaration by the Roman empire in 325 AD is what made your Jesus a God. Before then, no believer considered Jesus a God.

Attached is the new policies they adopted after the meeting

QuinQ:
See below

LordReed:
If there was an allergen I was bringing from such an interaction it could trigger it. I am totally grateful we have access to more knowledge and don't have to live according to ancient superstitions.

musicwriter:
Hahaha. LOL!!

Rome wrote it!!

QuinQ:
Who is "Rome"??
This was written durring Roman persecution of Christians (historically documented!)

musicwriter:
Aside the book of Mark and Revelations, the rest of the New testament are of dubious origins. I personally still think Mark is dubious.
Paul probably didn't exist and didn't write anything. The Roman empire manufactured almost everything you read and believe

QuinQ:
I ask again, r u ok? It's like someone put something in your head then locked it.
WHO WAS "ROME"??!!
See what is written below again. Written at the height of Roman persecution of Christians!!!

musicwriter:
A belief system that has locked your sensibilities, yet gives you the audacity to ask whether someone's head is locked, is not good for human consumption. On that note I'll have to let you be because not everyone will wake up from this disease.

Those writing credited to Pliny and others are probably forgeries too. If they could forge Josephus's writing, then an intelligent person shouldn't believe anything else as legitimate.

Goodbye

QuinQ:
You don't understand. She lives in London and you live in Nigeria and she hates your girfriend and wants you to dump her.
Certain things simply cannot be explained by science. I used to have a contentious email group with some people. Do you know I could tell 100% when a person is reading a scathing email I sent. Their strong emotions reading it somehow gets to me. And I knew this with precision. If they read the email two days later, I knew. This convinced me TOTALLY that there is an invisible connection between all of us, and it transcends distance!

LordReed:
LoLz. You already mentioned the reason, strong emotion. I guess people like you don't realise emotion is a combination of brain state and hormones which can absolutely produce psychosomatic symptoms.

Again an already contentious email group has strong emotions flowing around and combined with confirmation bias will make you think you are 100% doing something woo woo.

QuinQ:
No, seriously, this mystified me. How can someone in Hong Kong reading an email I sent from Nigeria affect my emotional state the moment they start reading the email??!

LordReed:
They are not remotely affecting your emotional state; you are already aware that the emotional states are going to be tumultuous. There is no mystery here.

QuinQ:
You don't understand. I'd be feeling normal till the moment they start reading my email then I'd start feeling something like anxiety and I'd know right away they're reading my email. AI says empaths do it, but I don't consider myself an empath. I have no doubt we are connected by a force field or something. Maybe quantum entanglement can explain it somewhat

LordReed:
I'll accept it is possible when it has been shown to be possible under proper experimental conditions. The more plausible explaination is already given as emotional contagion. Combine that with confirmation bias and you get this notion that you can always do it when I am pretty sure 99.999% of the time you can't.

QuinQ:
I just remembered (your saying this reminded me), it has actually been proven under controlled experimental conditions.
They went through old patients' files in a large clinic. As we know, most people don't go for regular check-ups unless something is wrong. Many of the patients whose files they went through and talked about (not even willing them to come in) came in for check-up within a short period of time, way beyond anything one might consider coincidental!

(BTW there is no logical explanation for what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance"}

LordReed:
Kindly link to the scientific publication.

QuinQ:
A simple Google search would bring it up.
Also, see below, and like I said, there is no logical explanation for what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance"

LordReed:
You can't ask me to search for the evidence YOU are presenting. Provide the link to the scientific study or I just take it there is none.

QuinQ:
I had it but now hard to find. Meanwhile address the Einstein question and this below

LordReed:
Provide the link from where you got this screenshot. I want to read the context in which it was said.

QuinQ:
Never mind the link, just address Einstein and quantum entanglement. Don't you think that if two particles light years apart can mysteriously affect each other, human beings on same planet can also do same?

LordReed:
No. Quantum entanglement does not occur at the macro level, at least not that we have found.

I find it funny that you are unwilling to provide links to the things you are talking about or showing. Why is that?

sonmvayina:
There is no evidence that Jesus actually lived, so what would a real historian write about him?

It would be like writing a “history” of King Arthur or Robin Hood, about whom nothing is known but their names and some far-fetched legends.

Was the magical sword in the stone historical, or the bible’s “virgin birth”?

A serious historian would know there is no real evidence that Jesus existed.

Just hearsay.

All that we have is a “big fish” story in which a minnow became a whale.

How did that happen?

It happened because the gospels are fairytale book with:

A virgin birth
walking on water
A ludicrous ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE
and so on…
As with other books of ancient mythology, we can’t assume actual events are being depicted.

Thus, we have to seek confirmation outside the bible.

But no one who lived at the time Jesus allegedly lived wrote a single word about him.

The earliest extra-biblical mention we have of Jesus is an implausible blurb in the histories of Josephus, written long after the fact, if there are any facts.

Furthermore, 92.4% of scholars who expressed opinions deemed the blurb a christian forgery, either largely or entirely.

The next mention was by the Roman historian Tacitus, a century after the fact, and he got Pilate’s job title wrong, strongly suggesting that he was quoting what he had heard Roman christians say.

And hearsay is not evidence.

Thus there is no actual evidence that Jesus existed, or any of his apostles.

An honest historian would conclude that he couldn’t write a history of Jesus, only conjecture.