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AntiChristian:
If Jesus is both fully God and fully human, then who truly died on the cross?

-If Jesus is God, and God is eternal and immortal, how can God die?
-If Jesus died only in his human nature (the flesh), but his divine nature remains alive, can we say Jesus truly died?
-When Christians say "Jesus died," are they referring to the death of a human person, a divine person, or both?
-How can the death of Jesus be complete and real if one nature (divine) is immortal and the other (human) is mortal?
-Does the statement "God died on the cross" mean God ceased to exist, or is it a metaphorical expression?
-How can Christian reconcile the claim that "Jesus died" with the doctrine that God cannot die?

AntiChristian:
-If Jesus is God, and God is eternal and immortal, how can God die?...
-How can Christian reconcile the claim that "Jesus died" with the doctrine that God cannot die?[/size]

godliman:
Even you a tripartite being will die one day and when it happens, only your body dies, your soul and spirit are immortal they don't die. The subject of Christ deity is a stumbling block and a rock of offense that will send many 'intelligent people' to hell. He said in John 8:24 KJV
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

bolabizzle:
For some with the moniker "Antichristian" You seem so deeply interested in Christian theology.

Just look for a church that has bible study groups.

Dtruthspeaker:
Dying and coming back to Life is also an example of "a cannot die"!

AntiChristian:
Once dead you can't say you've never died.

For example, you are not yet dead. Jesus has already died even for once, he had tasted death unlike you.

Has the father died before? Has the spirit died before?

Dtruthspeaker:
That is not True.

A person who dies and re-lives again is also one who can never die.

Exactly how people say if you can survive Nigerian universities you can survive anything. The odeshi power.

Not, to talk of the fact that Jesus never died again after that. And is never going to do it again.

And that is why even though I must die, I will also must Live, just like Jesus because He is in full and absolute control of death. Especially as we see, He even then kills death by throwing it, into the fire.

That is clear proof that He is super greater than death

AntiChristian:
You are not making sense! Your Jesus has once died! So you that is yet to die is even superior to him in that regard! Death conquered him even once!

Jesus died! Even if he rose, he did die! He was once a victim of death!

Dtruthspeaker:
As I said, only you Muslims think twistedly. Instead of connecting phone charger to a phone, you'll connect it to electric kettle then say it is not working.

"Once died" means you admit that He Lives and He is Living.

Which means that He has conquered death.

But only a Muslim will think that a person who has not written an exam (death) is superior to the one who has written it and passed it.

Do you see now that your reasoning faculty is filled with viruses that do not make you reason well?

You do not have the reasoning capacity to attack Christianity, so you are just showing that Muslims heads are damaygd

AntiChristian:
If Jesus is both fully God and fully human, then who truly died on the cross?

-If Jesus is God, and God is eternal and immortal, how can God die?
-If Jesus died only in his human nature (the flesh), but his divine nature remains alive, can we say Jesus truly died?
-When Christians say "Jesus died," are they referring to the death of a human person, a divine person, or both?
-How can the death of Jesus be complete and real if one nature (divine) is immortal and the other (human) is mortal?
-Does the statement "God died on the cross" mean God ceased to exist, or is it a metaphorical expression?
-How can Christian reconcile the claim that "Jesus died" with the doctrine that God cannot die?

Ebus03:
-If Jesus is God, and God is eternal and immortal, how can God die?
Jesus Died as a human(Flesh), and rose as a spirit(God). God IS eternal as by rising from the dead, he conquered death.

-If Jesus died only in his human nature (the flesh), but his divine nature remains alive, can we say Jesus truly died?
Death only apply to mortals(Flesh), not immortals(Spirit). There is no such thing as death in eternity.

-When Christians say "Jesus died," are they referring to the death of a human person, a divine person, or both?
As stated before, death only exist in the mortal world. Not the divine world thus "Jesus died" is simply a death of the flesh

-How can the death of Jesus be complete and real if one nature (divine) is immortal and the other (human) is mortal?
You seriously have to understand that the laws of the physical world does not apply to the divine. Do you know what it means to be eternal? beyond space and time? immeasurable?.

-Does the statement "God died on the cross" mean God ceased to exist, or is it a metaphorical expression?
God did NOT die on the cross!!! Jesus did. And by death he simply left his physical body(Flesh) to unite with God the Father Period!

-How can Christian reconcile the claim that "Jesus died" with the doctrine that God cannot die?
I believe with the details provided above, you should be smart enough to answer this.

AntiChristian:
The one with a damaged head is clear.

Your Bible says Jesus died for three days and three nights! This simply means the Godhead lost one person for three days! And you kep repeating yourself like a broken record!

Dtruthspeaker:
If your head was not touching you would know that you are the one repeating yourself after all, that is what "died" means.

Then, your the addition of "Godhead" is testament your plugs are misfiring else you would have remembered that this was not in your last post here.

And it is because you real eyes that once again you cannot reasonably counter my response, is why you are leaking oil.

As I said earlier, you do not have the faculty to attack Christianity,

AntiChristian:
➜If Jesus is both fully God and fully human, then who truly died on the cross?
➜ If Jesus is God, and God is eternal and immortal, how can God die?
➜ If Jesus died only in his human nature (the flesh), but his divine nature remains alive, can we say Jesus truly died?
➜ When Christians say "Jesus died," are they referring to the death of a human person, a divine person, or both?
➜ How can the death of Jesus be complete and real if one nature (divine) is immortal and the other (human) is mortal?
➜ Does the statement "God died on the cross" mean God ceased to exist, or is it a metaphorical expression?
➜ How can Christian reconcile the claim that "Jesus died" with the doctrine that God cannot die?

AntiChristian:
If Jesus is both fully God and fully human, then who truly died on the cross?

-If Jesus is God, and God is eternal and immortal, how can God die?
-If Jesus died only in his human nature (the flesh), but his divine nature remains alive, can we say Jesus truly died?
-When Christians say "Jesus died," are they referring to the death of a human person, a divine person, or both?
-How can the death of Jesus be complete and real if one nature (divine) is immortal and the other (human) is mortal?
-Does the statement "God died on the cross" mean God ceased to exist, or is it a metaphorical expression?
-How can Christian reconcile the claim that "Jesus died" with the doctrine that God cannot die?

Ken4Christ:
Our Lord Jesus died as a man and not as God. In addition, he didn't function on earth as God. He left his divinity behind and took up our human nature to save mankind. But he also didn't forget his divine origin. He knew he was the Son of God but clothed with human nature.

He died for all mankind including you. Why not accept the free gift of salvation which is in Christ alone and save yourself from eternal condemnation.

John 3:16-18
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

AntiChristian:
You didn't say anything new. God never dies! Humans die! Are you saying Jesus became 100% human only?

Ken4Christ:
He was 100% human for the sake of our sins but he didn't lose his divinity status. He only died after the Father laid our sins upon him. Otherwise, it wasn't possible for him to die. His gene was an indestructible gene.

AntiChristian:
If Jesus is both fully God and fully human, then who truly died on the cross?

-If Jesus is God, and God is eternal and immortal, how can God die?
Jesus is not God. God is not a human being or a son of man. God is the universal divine consciousness/spirit. since nobody has ever provided evidence for the existence of Jesus it is safe to say, he is a myth.
-If Jesus died only in his human nature (the flesh), but his divine nature remains alive, can we say Jesus truly died?
I really don't know how any human can become divine, divinity is the attribute of a God. it was Athanasius at the council of Nicaea,who wanted to end the argument between those who say he is god and those who say he is god, stood up and said he was both. And the argument ended.
-When Christians say "Jesus died," are they referring to the death of a human person, a divine person, or both?
Death is ONLY reserved for humans. it is a consequence of the human nature. Jesus dying signify that he is a human being. death simply means the spirit returning to God and the body returning to the earth. Gods don't die, that is part of their nature as God.
-How can the death of Jesus be complete and real if one nature (divine) is immortal and the other (human) is mortal?

Jesus is not a god and he is not a man, he is a myth concocted by man with the sole purpose of deception.
-Does the statement "God died on the cross" mean God ceased to exist, or is it a metaphorical expression?[/b]God cannot die. it is as simple as that. And if fir the purpose of argument, he was a man, God does not accept human sacrifice and NEVER asked for it.
-[b]How can Christian reconcile the claim that "Jesus died" with the doctrine that God cannot die?
it is all bollocks, God can't die, if Jesus was real and died, it shows he was a man. God don't accept human sacrifice, it is an abomination to him. A real God would ask for a sincere repentance and he would forgive...

AntiChristian:
Why is Christianity so ambiguous? Is there no one who can give a clear, unambiguous answer?

You are still claiming Jesus is 100% man and still divine at the same time! When he died did Jesus thoroughly die or not?

If he died then all of him died whether divine or human!

Then we can say there remains only the father and the Spirit alive!

Otherwise, Jesus never truly died! He was just living somewhere in the divine!

Ken4Christ:
The moment he was made sin, he became mortal and he died. He put aside his divinity to redeem mankind bank to God. And you are included in the redemption plan.

AntiChristian:
Jesus died while it remains the father and the Holy Spirit.
2 out of 3 Gods remains for three days and three nights!

Dtruthspeaker:
First, Off Point.

Did you not read that died means "sleeping" like Samuel and Lazarus?

Therefore, it means He was alive somewhere else.

Dtruthspeaker:
First, Off Point.

Did you not read that died means "sleeping" like Samuel and Lazarus?

Therefore, it means He was alive somewhere else.

sonmvayina:
what was the "sacrifice"?

AntiChristian:
So when you die you wake up elsewhere?

Please where do you wake up when you die?

Where does death means sleeping?

Dtruthspeaker:
What else is life, after death? And what else is "gone to their rest"? And what else is "the dead will waken"?

Ken4Christ:
The moment he was made sin, he became mortal and he died. He put aside his divinity to redeem mankind bank to God. And you are included in the redemption plan.

AntiChristian:
Death is the ceasation of life. The stop of one's existence on earth! At death all bodily functions stops functioning!

When you sleep on the other hand, you are not dead yet! Most bodily organs slows down a bit!