₦airaland Forum

Before I visit am hospital I research on the symptoms, possible treatment and period of treatment. If you see me engaging doctors, you ll think am thinkd to arrest them !

My experience when my wife had miscarriage and when I had sinusitis taught me that the best doctor is your own account and how you inform the doctors.

However I feel sorry for the little boy. But the woman is a person of interest to God! She has a lot to reconcile

advanceDNA:
Once I become president ....I will ensure pass mark of all medical exam from first MB to clinicals will be 98% ....

I don't see how getting 55/100 in anatomy should be allowed as pass mark for someone that must know every single aspect of the human body flawlessly or something could go terrible wrong

That's how one doctor suture the rectal passage and the vagina plus the urethra and everything thats close to that area together after fibroid removal......it was a very messy post surgery issue...and they still had the wicked guts to tell the poor woman to pay for corrective surgery.

Raising pass mark is not the solution, after all, there have been cases where people with very high scores made blunders in practice. The solution has to do with curbing corruption in the sector, ensuring strict adherence to standard operating procedures and punishing severely those who failed to comply with set standards.

There's need to encourage patients to seek legal redress when they suffer from any consequences of medical negligence. They should not be hindered from doing so by the hospital management and professional associations like NMA who are known to corruptly protect erring medical doctors.

If patients can freely sue erring medical doctors to courts and get legal redress and the medical doctors are aware of that fact, all of them would sit up. When you give too much room for people to err without consequences, the system eventually collapses.

Jman06:
Raising pass mark is not the solution, after all, there have been cases where people with very high scores made blunders in practice.

its a start...we can attack issues from multiple angles.....we need to first produce high grade doctors from college .....not these doctors that buy let my pple go scores, doctors whose father's donate senate buildings and are pushed to graduate...

Jman06:
The solution has to do with curbing corruption in the sector, ensuring strict adherence to standard operating procedures and punishing severely those who failed to comply with set standards.

sir..u cannot give what you dont have..... ..see our leaders naaa.... the standard of fighting corruption will always be low because those in charge have low standards, they are full of certificate forgers, embezzlers, etc

Jman06:
There's need to encourage patients to seek legal redress when they suffer from any consequences of medical negligence.

agreed .......that's the purpose of education, knowing you have a right to sue..

but look around you ...the govt rapes us everyday with no consequences....Nigerians are subjugated by default....most that even know they can sue have lost hope in the corrupt justice system
.u cant tell an organization not to do damage control though

So sad really.May God grant you and your family the fortitude to bear the loss. This is a glimpse of what many Nigerians pass through on every other day.

Wasn’t this the same child who was born through surrogacy? I keep hearing her say “my child, my child,” as though the child was biologically hers. In reality, the child resulted from an arrangement that didn’t turn out as expected. If she truly wants a child, she may need to consider a different approach.

To think that we have Nigerian doctors in John Hopkins where the baby was to be moved to. Also a Professor in the paediatric field. It's not about Nigerian doctors lacking skill, it's the carelessness of some that results in bad outcomes which tarnishes everyone's image.

So so sad.

John Hopkins nay US doctors don't have as much experience in infectious disease like we do because of the unsanitary conditions of the third world countries.

The anaesthesia was meant to facilitate the MRI - that's taking too much risk for a child. Highly unnecessary for a child with reduced consciousness as a result of sepsis/septicemia.

LP should have been a part of the baseline investigations.

nairalanda1:
1. MRI may be useful in identifying the source of the sepsis. It was Johns Hopkins in the US that requested for it, and yes it makes plenty of sense
2. They administered propofol because the child was being anaesthetized for a central line insertion. Which ( having had one myself in the past) can be a bit uncomfortable in a full grown ass adult, talk less of a child.
3. There was a plan also to do lumbar puncture as well
4. Regardless it must be pointed out that sepsis is a rapid killer in adults, talk less children whose immune system is still developing.

Deximuz84:
Wasn’t this the same child who was born through surrogacy? I keep hearing her say “my child, my child,” as though the child was biologically hers. In reality, the child resulted from an arrangement that didn’t turn out as expected. If she truly wants a child, she may need to consider a different approach.

But go like trouble ooooo.....which Vawulence University you graduate from??

delpee:
Same Nigerian doctors are well appreciated abroad. Maybe our best hands have relocated.

Duchess could have been better truly.

May God comfort Chimamanda and family.

The ones celebrated there are the ones trained there.

Nothing like Negligence, sometimes believe and trust the doctors to do their Job without pressure and unnecessary interference. sometimes a simple antibiotics for kids just enough.

PotatoSalad:
Same thing everytime. Naija.
All the good medical personnels have left this godforsaken country. The remaining ones are using people as lab subjects.

Just hope you do not have a critical hospital emergency in Nigeria now. You won't even survive to pay tax.
Your leaders don't want to put doctors and medical staff first, now everyone's leaving and they still don't care.
Enjoy what you have left.

I'm living her experience right now. Negligence is what kills most patients in Nigeria.

Tunaji:
John Hopkins nay US doctors don't have as much experience in infectious disease like we do because of the unsanitary conditions of the third world countries.

HIghly, highly unlikely. It's kind of a center for international health, not for just 'American health'.
They probably have plenty of infectious disease, global disease, and travel medicine specialists, as well as means of testing for every bacterium, virus and so forth under the sun.
Johns Hopkins is high grade globally. Not a local champion.

The anaesthesia was meant to facilitate the MRI - that's taking too much risk for a child. Highly unnecessary for a child with reduced consciousness as a result of sepsis/septicemia.

It's stated it is high risk, not unnecessary. High risk
You just need to optimize the patient (which was probably done)...and be careful , and monitor.

LP should have been a part of the baseline investigations.

It says so in the article. They were going to do it.

Caseless:
I'm living her experience right now. Negligence is what kills most patients in Nigeria.

Not just negligence.

1. Lack of appropriate equipment and drugs
2. Lack of appropriately trained staff
3. Most importantly, many patients present late or have been placed on medication or warned that they should have that operation at time t, and they don't...only to turn up with complications.

Government does not help matters by not improving healthcare spending among other things.

Back to negligence. Because so many medical people, not just doctors, are japaing, that means that in many instances , people are doing the work of three or even five people. Gets worse in the rural area. The result is a high rate of stress which can cause.. negligence


Finally, sepsis is a quick killer. You can be doing everything right and the disease is one step ahead of you. Especially in a toddler with an immune system that is still developing

Enough of the back and forth. Enjoy!

nairalanda1:
HIghly, highly unlikely. It's kind of a center for international health, not for just 'American health'.
They probably have plenty of infectious disease, global disease, and travel medicine specialists, as well as means of testing for every bacterium, virus and so forth under the sun.
Johns Hopkins is high grade globally. Not a local champion.



It's stated it is high risk, not unnecessary. High risk
You just need to optimize the patient (which was probably done)...and be careful , and monitor.



It says so in the article. They were going to do it.

Tunaji:
Enough of the back and forth. Enjoy!

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I don't want to argue, who does MRI or even CT-scan of the brain without doing a simple LP unless there's a raised ICP. Go and read or play or attend to other matters and argue less please. Don't be a devil's advocate.

nairalanda1:
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Tunaji:
I don't want to argue, who does MRI or even CT-scan of the brain without doing a simple LP unless there's a raised ICP. Go and read or play or attend to other matters and argue less please. Don't be a devil's advocate.

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sonnie10:
The difference is that they cannot milk the patient at the government hospital. So when they go private, they do all kinds of unnecessary test to increase the bill while neglecting very basic ones.
Are you surprised that the child's vitals were not monitored. That speaks volume of what they care about.
Ask them now if they did an ekg for a child that had reportedly experienced seizure, you will hear another story, because those ones do not pay as much.

I see your point. The MDCN needs to be more active.

Racoon:
Chai! God abeg which kind wahala be this nah? This country is sad. When Peter Obi talk now, Tinubu and his goons that don't seek health here will start calling.

what did the lunatic do in anambra as governor, doctors were on strike for 13 months.

advanceDNA:
Once I become president ....I will ensure pass mark of all medical exam from first MB to clinicals will be 98% ....

I don't see how getting 55/100 in anatomy should be allowed as pass mark for someone that must know every single aspect of the human body flawlessly or something could go terrible wrong

That's how one doctor suture the rectal passage and the vagina plus the urethra and everything thats close to that area together after fibroid removal......it was a very messy post surgery issue...and they still had the wicked guts to tell the poor woman to pay for corrective surgery.

I was told maximum score in med school is 70%. No matter what you do. Minimum score for just showing up and wring the question back is 30%. So majority of them are crammed around 50 to 55%. Score range.

sonnie10:
I don't care who requested the test. Even is it was a lung infection, an ordinary chest x-ray should have been the first line of action. Pneumonia. pneumothorax, plural effusion, are common findings on a plain film x-ray.
Stabilizing the patient should have been their uttermost priority . What was the white blood count? All these are questions that need answers.

They must be thinking of meningitis. For them to request lumbar puncture.

armadeo:
I was told maximum score in med school is 70%. No matter what you do. Minimum score for just showing up and wring the question back is 30%. So majority of them are crammed around 50 to 55%. Score range.

U don't mean it .... Must be one of those private schools paying 6-7million per session

advanceDNA:
U don't mean it .... Must be one of those private schools paying 6-7million per session

Nope government university. I think that's the general marking scheme though I'm not sure.

SIRTee15:
They must be thinking of meningitis. For them to request lumbar puncture.

The sedation was for them to be able do MRI without the motion artifact. It was not to rule out infection. That was unnecessary. They could have done the lumbar puncture without the MRI. Even a fluoroscopy is enough for the lumbar puncture.
Its all greed.

sonnie10:
The sedation was for them to be able do MRI without the motion artifact. It was not to rule out infection. That was unnecessary. They could have done the lumbar puncture without the MRI. Even a fluoroscopy is enough for the lumbar puncture.
Its all greed.

John Hopkins was thinking of possible meningitis. That's why they advised for MRI of the brain and LP.
I didn't say anything about sedation.

SIRTee15:
John Hopkins was thinking of possible meningitis. That's why they advised for MRI of the brain and LP.
I didn't say anything about sedation.

MRI could not have caused the death but sedation. As the primary doctor, they were responsible for conducting every procedure in a safe manner, irrespective of who ordered the exam.

fxexperts:
So you wanted him to just jump into the theater of another mans hosiptal where he is not a staff to start treating someone even though the person is his child abi. some of una sabi cap rubbish shall.

Wrong bro. the hospital is damn wrong. and incompetency runs deep in our hospitals.

You must be an athlete, the way you have mastered the art of jumping to conclusions.

InvertedHammer:
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Rubbish!

Have you ever run ACLS on a young adult before?
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Won't be surprised if you're a young houseofficer or even a 2nd year medical student. Your type are the loudest on online forums pretending to know what you're talking about while those who actually know their onions remain reserved waiting for proper information before conclusion. Empty barrels always make the loudest noises.

The number of people who died as a result of negligence of medical staffs and government's is way more than the total number of people who died in a full fledged war.
Medical staffs of public hospitals has been on strike for more than 2months now, people are dying in their numbers yet no media house reported it, no protest. Everyone kept quiet.
Nigeria problem is touching everyone .... na turn by turn - until we stand as one and fight as one.

APCNig:
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Take your drugs as at when due

Na agbo i dey take not drugs.... Have you taken yours?