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QuinQ:
You must really think I'm very smart. I'm flattered and I wah you were right. But no, I didn't make it up at all. I saw it on YouTube as clearly as today is Sunday

LoLz. You saw it on YouTube! Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

I said you have no link to any such scientific study and you have proved it. So please retire this story it is played out.

LordReed:
LoLz. You saw it on YouTube! Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

I said you have no link to any such scientific study and you have proved it. So please retire this story it is played out.

I keep saying u don't understand because you really don't. Don't worry I'd get someone else to upload it. Just promise you'd stop being an atheist once it's uploaded. Or you may choose to stop being an atheist right now in anticipation of it's release (considering that u benefit NOTHING from being atheistic)

QuinQ:
I keep saying u don't understand because you really don't. Don't worry I'd get someone else to upload it. Just promise you'd stop being an atheist once it's uploaded. Or you may choose to stop being an atheist right now in anticipation of it's release (considering that u benefit NOTHING from being atheistic)

LoLz. Guy abeg stop this, you are beginning to sound ridiculous.

LordReed:
LoLz. Guy abeg stop this, you are beginning to sound ridiculous.

Answer the question. Do you promise?

QuinQ:
Answer the question. Do you promise?

That is a ridiculous question and has no bearing on you producing the link. You are now fully entrenched in ridiculousness with this matter.

LordReed:
That is a ridiculous question and has no bearing on you producing the link. You are now fully entrenched in ridiculousness with this matter.

Just swear you'll quit being an atheist once it's uploaded and see what happens

QuinQ:
Just swear you'll quit being an atheist once it's uploaded and see what happens

Stop being ridiculous.

LordReed:
Stop being ridiculous.

I rest my case

QuinQ:
I rest my case

LoLz. You didn't have one to begin with. You saw something on YouTube and believed it was true which is par for the course anyway. Bwahahahahahahaha!

LordReed:
LoLz. You didn't have one to begin with. You saw something on YouTube and believed it was true which is par for the course anyway. Bwahahahahahahaha!

You misunderstand. It is a SCIENTIFIC STUDY profiled in a YouTube video, with peer-reviwed references and cross references

When you mentioned me and typed this:

QuinQ:
He was not written about because he is God's only begotten Son?
Try to at least make a little bit of sense. Just try

I laughed in Urhobo because i know you don't understand what i meant and you'll start worrying yourself thinking you want to make sense before people who don't appreciate reasonableness.

So now after all the things you said you ended up saying:

QuinQ:
I rest my case

Do you think faith is a possession of all kinds of people? 2Thessalonians 3:2

Well instead of stressing yourself why not give a short and sarcastic response to provoked their curiosity in that way you will drag them out of their shell before making them see they're unwise.

But when you are trying to reason with them they will turn you to a laughing stock! Matthew 7:6

QuinQ:
You misunderstand. It is a SCIENTIFIC STUDY profiled in a YouTube video, with peer-reviwed references and cross references

Story. LoLz.

Care to participate in my topic that just made Frontpage in Travel Section?

https://www.nairaland.com/8597653/japa-comparing-us-uk-suicide

LordReed, MaxInDHouse, DeepSight,
sonmvayina, tctrills, bolabizzle, MightySparrow

QuinQ:
Care to participate in my topic that just made Frontpage in Travel Section?
https://www.nairaland.com/8597653/japa-comparing-us-uk-suicide.

I'm sorry if it's not about faith you can't find me there that's why you won't see my post on any other section except on RELIGION!

MaxInDHouse:
I'm sorry if it's not about faith you can't find me there that's why you won't see my post on any other section except on RELIGION!

That's one aspect of religion that is BAD! How can you allow yourself be made so narrow-minded. So much in God’s world to explore and appreciate and you are mentally trapped in one space. Sad, in my opinion

I'm a Christian so just like my Master Lord and King the only thing that could make me relate with outsiders is matters relating to faith in God anything else i will do with my fellow believers only!🙂

QuinQ:
That's one aspect of religion that is BAD! How can you allow yourself be made so narrow-minded. So much in God’s world to explore and appreciate and you are mentally trapped in one space. Sad, in my opinion.

musicwriter:
The Nicene creed or declaration by the Roman empire in 325 AD is what made your Jesus a God. Before then, no believer considered Jesus a God.

Attached is the new policies they adopted after the meeting

I just dont understand how some of u can come here and spew ignorance so confidently. is it like u guys dont research or what?
google is free not just so u can watch p.orn. use it to improve your intelligence.
if u had asked google a simple question like 'do early Christians believe Jesus is God?', u wont come here embarrassing yourself.


Now read about Meggido Mosaic

In 2005, Israeli archaeologist Yotam Tepper of Tel-Aviv University discovered the remains of a church, believed to be from the third century, a time when Christians were still persecuted by the Roman Empire.

Among the finds is an approx. 54-square-metre (580 sq ft) large mosaic with a Greek inscription stating that "The God-loving Akeptous has offered the table to God Jesus Christ as a memorial."The mosaic is very well preserved and features geometrical figures and images of fish, an early Christian symbol. The ruins contain one of the oldest inscriptions referring to the divinity of Jesus.

https://archive.archaeology.org/0709/abstracts/churches.html

https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/archaeology-around-the-world/article-830110

LordReed:
If there was an allergen I was bringing from such an interaction it could trigger it. I am totally grateful we have access to more knowledge and don't have to live according to ancient superstitions.

Christianity or any other religion without intelligence leads to superstition.
Christianity with intelligence gives us sound theology. Christ himself said a sick man needs to see a doctor.

This is what apostle Paul was trying to explain that led to him being vilified and called names. Prior to Paul's letter, belief system and traditional practice are inseparable. what u eat, drink, how u sleep, what u wear defines your belief.

Paul was the first person to declare that your faith is independent of your tradition or custom. Your faith must be separated from superstitious believes that are largely influenced by your traditions and cultural practices.

All what Paul was saying is your FAITH should be independent of the traditions of your ancestors. It's ok to follow the traditions of your ancestors such as circumcision or dietary rules BUT those things should not define your faith because those traditions are filled with elements of superstition that beclouds the sense of rational judgement.

In the old testament, God instructed women on their periods and people with open sores not to visit the temple. There's a reason for that- it's called public hygiene.
why should we continue such practice now when wound care has improved and most women have no issue with personal hygiene during period. so why should we continue to say women on their period shouldn't come to place of worship.

This is what Paul was trying to open the eyes of people to see and understand, but we all know how it ended up for him. He was attacked by fellow jews, beaten up and jailed. he is now the convenient scapegoat for muslims and even some ignorant Christians have joined in saying Paul cannot be trusted.

To your case...
It's common knowledge that when a child complains of recurrent tummy ache, a well trained doctor will request blood test which will include coeliac test. A good doctor will also think of food intolerance including lactose and gluten.
This has nothing to do with superstition at all but good medical training. sorry your daughter had to go thru such ordeal b4 finding relieve.

musicwriter:
Aside the book of Mark and Revelations, the rest of the New testament are of dubious origins. I personally still think Mark is dubious.
Paul probably didn't exist and didn't write anything. The Roman empire manufactured almost everything you read and believe

So powerful Romans abandoned their own gods that gave made them a powerful empire and made them ruler of the whole world to start worshipping an invented god linked to an insignificant group of people called Jews.
So the Romans decided to elevate the God of the Jews above their own gods, yet the God of the Jews couldnt prevent the decimation of the jews themselves in the hands of the Romans.
The Romans beat the jews blue black twice- 70AD and 135AD. They sacked Jerusalem and banned the Jews from their own land. Yet Romans decided to elevate the Jewish deity that couldn't save his own worshippers from defeat and decimation. Not only that, they now decided to invent more stories about this deity, then forced their citizens to worship this strange unknown deity
pls make it make sense for me.

It's so obvious u lack knowledge and understanding of how the ancient world works. In case u dont know, ancient people abandon their own local gods to embrace 'powerful deity' if their own local gods seems too weak to save them.

musicwriter:
You're speaking from the point of view of today as a rigid believer and as someone who doesn't know about ancient cultures and religious scencetism.

In ancient times, religion wasn't as rigid as it is today. People often adapted to new religions and took what is necessary.

That's what Rome did.

Before Rome adopted Christianity, they already had the son of God Mithra who died and shed his blood to save humanity, had 12 disciples, died and resurrected, etc. So, Rome didn't have any problem adopting and adapting to what was deemed good in Christianity. For POLITICAL purposes, they adapted to Christianity to conquer it.

If it was possible for you to wake up the early Judean Christians from the grave, you and them would be having two different religions. They weren't even called Christians. They began to be called Christians several years later in Antioch, Turkey. This was probably a different sect on its own

I notice u are trying to push the Mithra narrative here as a copy cat of christianity. I also noticed your claim that 1st century christianity is different from the one today.
I'm not sure u have what it takes to defend your claims critically with objective evidence based on what I have read about u here. I strongly u are just another pseudo-intelligentsia who got his atheist certificate from You-tube videos that promote feel good conspiracy junks. However, I will give u benefit of doubt.

If u think christianity is an evolution of Mithra, I will like to see your evidence for this. I will also like to see your evidence that 1st century AD christians preach a different faith.

SIRTee15:
Christianity or any other religion without intelligence leads to superstition.
Christianity with intelligence gives us sound theology. Christ himself said a sick man needs to see a doctor.

This is what apostle Paul was trying to explain that led to him being vilified and called names. Prior to Paul's letter, belief system and traditional practice are inseparable. what u eat, drink, how u sleep, what u wear defines your belief.

Paul was the first person to declare that your faith is independent of your tradition or custom. Your faith must be separated from superstitious believes that are largely influenced by your traditions and cultural practices.

All what Paul was saying is your FAITH should be independent of the traditions of your ancestors. It's ok to follow the traditions of your ancestors such as circumcision or dietary rules BUT those things should not define your faith because those traditions are filled with elements of superstition that beclouds the sense of rational judgement.

In the old testament, God instructed women on their periods and people with open sores not to visit the temple. There's a reason for that- it's called public hygiene.
why should we continue such practice now when wound care has improved and most women have no issue with personal hygiene during period. so why should we continue to say women on their period shouldn't come to place of worship.

This is what Paul was trying to open the eyes of people to see and understand, but we all know how it ended up for him. He was attacked by fellow jews, beaten up and jailed. he is now the convenient scapegoat for muslims and even some ignorant Christians have joined in saying Paul cannot be trusted.

To your case...
It's common knowledge that when a child complains of recurrent tummy ache, a well trained doctor will request blood test which will include coeliac test. A good doctor will also think of food intolerance including lactose and gluten.
This has nothing to do with superstition at all but good medical training. sorry your daughter had to go thru such ordeal b4 finding relieve.

I mentioned my case because in the event where proper diagnosis cannot be obtained it is easy for many believers to switch to spiritualising the situation and claim it as a demonic/spiritual attack in contrast to my approach which was to dig into the medical knowledge base. We see this type of response over and over again.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm a Christian so just like my Master Lord and King the only thing that could make me relate with outsiders is matters relating to faith in God anything else i will do with my fellow believers only!🙂

Yet you're using an atheist's privately owned platform to "relate with outsiders". If everyone behaved like you will there be the vibrant, interesting platform you now have and love to always be on?

SIRTee15:
So powerful Romans abandoned their own gods that gave made them a powerful empire and made them ruler of the whole world to start worshipping an invented god linked to an insignificant group of people called Jews.
So the Romans decided to elevate the God of the Jews above their own gods, yet the God of the Jews couldnt prevent the decimation of the jews themselves in the hands of the Romans.
The Romans beat the jews blue black twice- 70AD and 135AD. They sacked Jerusalem and banned the Jews from their own land. Yet Romans decided to elevate such the Jewish deity that couldn't save his own worshippers from defeat and decimation. Not only that, they now decided to invent more stories about this deity.
pls make it make sense for me.

It's so obvious u lack knowledge and understanding of how the ancient world works. In case u dont know, ancient people abandon their own local gods to embrace 'powerful deity' if their own local gods seems too weak to save them.

😆
Exactly what I've been trying to tell both his monikers. It's like someone put something in his brain then locked it!

LordReed:
I mentioned my case because in the event where proper diagnosis cannot be obtained it is easy for many believers to switch to spiritualising the situation and claim it as a demonic/spiritual attack in contrast to my approach which was to dig into the medical knowledge base. We see this type of response over and over again.

Because at core everything is superstition (see the quote below) - as long as we don't know what this is all about or even wether we're dreaming!

SIRTee15:
Christianity or any other religion without intelligence leads to superstition.
Christianity with intelligence gives us sound theology. Christ himself said a sick man needs to see a doctor.

This is what apostle Paul was trying to explain that led to him being vilified and called names. Prior to Paul's letter, belief system and traditional practice are inseparable. what u eat, drink, how u sleep, what u wear defines your belief.

Paul was the first person to declare that your faith is independent of your tradition or custom. Your faith must be separated from superstitious believes that are largely influenced by your traditions and cultural practices.

All what Paul was saying is your FAITH should be independent of the traditions of your ancestors. It's ok to follow the traditions of your ancestors such as circumcision or dietary rules BUT those things should not define your faith because those traditions are filled with elements of superstition that beclouds the sense of rational judgement.

In the old testament, God instructed women on their periods and people with open sores not to visit the temple. There's a reason for that- it's called public hygiene.
why should we continue such practice now when wound care has improved and most women have no issue with personal hygiene during period. so why should we continue to say women on their period shouldn't come to place of worship.

This is what Paul was trying to open the eyes of people to see and understand, but we all know how it ended up for him. He was attacked by fellow jews, beaten up and jailed. he is now the convenient scapegoat for muslims and even some ignorant Christians have joined in saying Paul cannot be trusted.

To your case...
It's common knowledge that when a child complains of recurrent tummy ache, a well trained doctor will request blood test which will include coeliac test. A good doctor will also think of food intolerance including lactose and gluten.
This has nothing to do with superstition at all but good medical training. sorry your daughter had to go thru such ordeal b4 finding relieve.

If a Pharisee invite Jesus for a feast do you think Jesus will honor the invitation?

If Jesus honor such invitation do you think he will say a word beyond what he always get involved with which is faith?

We have a lot to discuss about faith with people that is why we are going to their homes so if an atheist now call for Christians to come and discuss about faith in God do you think JWs (the only true Christian organization) shouldn't participate?🙂

QuinQ:
Yet you're using an atheist's privately owned platform to "relate with outsiders". If everyone behaved like you will there be the vibrant, interesting platform you now have and love to always be on?

MaxInDHouse:
If a Pharisee invite Jesus for a feast do you think Jesus will honor the invitation?

If Jesus honor such invitation do you think he will say a word beyond what he always get involved with which is faith?

We have a lot to discuss with people that is why we are going to their homes so if an atheist now call for Christians to come and discuss about faith in God do you think we the only true Christian organization shouldn't participate?🙂

You are comparing with the Lord. If Jesus were on earth today, do you think He'll come anywhere near this platform?
Case closed!

QuinQ:
You are comparing with the Lord. If Jesus were on earth today, do you think He'll come anywhere near this platform?
Case closed!

YES!
He sent us out to engage everyone in discussion about FAITH! Matthew 28:19-20
So i'm here just for that!🙂

QuinQ:
Because at core everything is superstition (see the quote below) - as long as we don't know what this is all about or even wether we're dreaming!

Equivocation at its finest.

QuinQ:
Care to participate in my topic that just made Frontpage in Travel Section?

https://www.nairaland.com/8597653/japa-comparing-us-uk-suicide

ok

kingxsamz:
Why what?

wrong quote

paxonel:
Jesus is studied under Academic subject like CRS. what subject in schools study atheism?

well, people do study ancient myths and legend, I know I did. That's where Jesus will fall into. just because people believe in a literal story does not negate it...

QuinQ:
Exactly the point. That's the TOTAL PROOF you are dealing with the divine, because that's how God usually works. Not only was he unknown, even his closest friends were denying knowing him upon his "shameful" death. If you were dealing with something human that'd have been the end of the story. God raised Him from all that to.being worshipped as God till today!

lol, I understand your emotion and passion about the story. once upon a time, I was like you, then I grew up. you should too.
God is the universal consciousness, it not about a jew up in the sky. That alone makes all the books from Genesis to revelation myths/allegorical.