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Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Okexchange: 10:09am On Jan 13
aribisala0:
Asese ran onde majesin bi ogun bi ogun ni maa se won
When you know a little you think you know more than people who have been on the subject before you were born
Nobody owns anything
Yoruba is not an identity that can be owned
That is where you get it wrong
It is like saying who owns the terms Nigerian African or amala or moin moin

You think you know but do not

Yoruba was a term that was always used by an external group to refer to another

No group went anywhere and identified themselves as Yoruba before Nigeria was created

The half information you have about Oyo and Yoruba makes you think you are enlightened and know everything

Yes outsiders at some point called Oyo Yoruba but they never called themselves so
They are Oyo that us their identity Oyo not Yoruba

Also that term Yorubaland

All I will tell you is LAND is not our language
Cross over to Benin they call themselves Nago or Anago
You haven’t even been following the thread. Oyo is known as the Yoruba people and Yoruba kingdom not even before Nigeria. When they signed their treaty with the Brits, they used the name Yoruba and their kingdom called Yoruba kingdom. It was after this that the rest of Yoruba speaking people everywhere were persuaded to accept the Yoruba identity for uniformity sake. I think there’s even a signed treaty to that effect. Oyo were the original Yoruba people and their kingdom referred to as Yoruba kingdom.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by JooEeL(m): 10:09am On Jan 13
seunlayi:
This Alaafin just want to collect. If it were to be about 150yrs ago and this happened, Oyo and Ibadan people supposed to be at war this morning
Hahas. Yoruba been like war that year o. How times have changed
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by mikeapollo: 10:12am On Jan 13
Okexchange:
Did you notice only the Oyo treaty has the Yoruba name? That’s why the Oyos owned the name exclusively. You can see that Ife didn’t use the name. It was later that every Yoruba chose to accept the Yoruba identity for uniformity. So whenever anyone talks about Yoruba and Yorubaland, one is literally referring to old Oyo land (which doesn’t covered the whole lands of the descendants of Odua of course). I think that’s where the pride of the new Alaafin is coming from but he failed to realize its a new order in town. No descendants of Oodua still owes their loyalty to Oyo. I’m pretty sure he will realize soon that he’s just the Alaafin of Oyo ile and has no subject anywhere anymore.
Just ask yourself who is the progenitor of the Yoruba race and where was his kingdom and throne. Oyo can never be higher or greater than Ife in terms of historical, cultural and spiritual relevance in Yoruba land.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Okexchange: 10:17am On Jan 13
mikeapollo:
Just ask yourself who is the progenitor of the Yoruba race and where was his kingdom and throne. Oyo can never be higher or greater than Ife in terms of historical, cultural and spiritual relevance in Yoruba land.
You are saying a different thing entirely bro. Ife will continue to be the source. What are discussing is the Yoruba identity
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by delpee(f): 10:20am On Jan 13
Okexchange:
They do. They sign the treaty on behalf of us all and they also own the Yoruba identity. Wether it’s the present or not. Little can be done about that now.
A published gazette limits them to those towns. Oyo Ile was far away from today's location. It was further up North. That's why in reality, Jebba is a Yoruba town with a Yoruba Oba.

Oyo Ile fell into ruins. This current location is said to have been given to them to settle on by Ogbomosho people with the support of Ibadan. Ekitis, Ondos, Ijebus, Egbas, Ijeshas, Ilajes etc are unique sub groups who came together to form present day Yorubaland. Most of them were never subjugated under Oyo or they freed themselves through wars. Ibadan warriors are more appreciated historically.

Oba Owoade really needs to calm down and work with the other Obas for peace and progress across the SW. The truth is that we all trace ourselves back to Ile Ife one way or the other. The unnecessary beef with the Ooni and others is therefore ridiculous. Every true Yoruba can trace his/her roots.

Late Alaafin Adeyemi made peace with everyone and was duly respected.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by aribisala0(m): 10:22am On Jan 13
Okexchange:
You haven’t even been following the thread. Oyo is known as the Yoruba people and Yoruba kingdom not even before Nigeria. When they signed their treaty with the Brits, they used the name Yoruba and their kingdom called Yoruba kingdom. It was after this that the rest of Yoruba speaking people everywhere were persuaded to accept the Yoruba identity for uniformity sake. I think there’s even a signed treaty to that effect. Oyo were the original Yoruba people and their kingdom referred to as Yoruba kingdom.
You are making claims

My advice to you
Pause
Reset
Admit you do not know
Then and only then
Can you know
If you proceed from a position of arrogance you will never learn anything

Two questions
Name who signed treaty for Oyo

What year was this signed
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by delpee(f): 10:23am On Jan 13
Goodvibes007:
In that treaty, do you know that Ife and other kingdoms also signed separately.

I have attached the towns he signed for in my earlier comment.

Ife's signature below at the same time the Alafin signed for the Yoruba towns (Oyo Atiba, Awe, Akinmarin, Ilora, Iseyin, Papa, Tede. and Sabe.)
Thanks for this valuable document.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Shimbo96(m): 10:25am On Jan 13
[quote author=chopnaira post=138117141]Yesterday, the Olubadan snubbed the Alaafin at an event.

Olubadan snubs Alaafin’s handshake at Ibadan event

is the best video I have seen this year😜
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Okexchange: 10:29am On Jan 13
aribisala0:
You are making claims

My advice to you
Pause
Reset
Admit you do not know
Then and only then
Can you know
If you proceed from a position of arrogance you will never learn anything

Two questions
Name who signed treaty for Oyo

What year was this signed
Bro search for the Yoruba unity treaty of 1886 and then the one signed by Alaafin Adeyemi on behalf of Yorubaland with the Great Britain in 1888.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Olasquare4real: 10:41am On Jan 13
You are perfectly right and everyone knew very well that, Ibadan are warlords, who can for just fews destroy Oyo,Oyo empire is powerful because of Ibadan influence, Ibadan as been a backbone for alafia centuries ago,so for Oyo believe she can use superiority on Ibadan is a very bad dream.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by aribisala0(m): 10:44am On Jan 13
Okexchange:
Bro search for the Yoruba unity treaty of 1886 and then the one signed by Alaafin Adeyemi on behalf of Yorubaland with the Great Britain in 1888.
I do not need to search for what does not exist

You are now conflating unrelated issues
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by delpee(f): 10:44am On Jan 13
Kukutente23:
The Sabe in question still exists. It's different from the one in Benin Republic
Oh, thanks.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Okexchange: 10:45am On Jan 13
aribisala0:
I do not need to search for what does not exist
LOL.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Austraky: 10:46am On Jan 13
Ibadan was a village to Oyo, Alaafin keeps his guest and warriors at ibadan, so than they will not admire his wives. Ibadan coined from eba odan, beside the forest. Ibadan does not have kingship, they use magaji, it was politics and civilization that makes ibadan relevant. Olubadan shun Alaafin because he sees himself as older, former governor of the state but Alaafin na him papa.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by aribisala0(m): 10:49am On Jan 13
Okexchange:
LOL.
Not funny

I am dead serious
You are mixing two different things

Stop making claims without proof

Return to the claim about a treaty with the British
Date and name please
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Jokky001: 10:54am On Jan 13
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Adeyinka90:
He could have just stand up and shake hands with ladoja..that’s rude from alaafin
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by themanderon: 10:59am On Jan 13
This alafin is just picking up fights everywhere
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by zelnababa(m): 11:00am On Jan 13
The oyos still believe in old and dead empire, Owoade should act as a leader, you can't be having issue with every monarch, that shows he was the problem.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by olaoye15(m): 11:37am On Jan 13
I still don't understand why the Aalfin of Oyo is this chicky. Let's even assume that by tradition, the stool of Allafin of oyonis more prestigious than the Olubadan. I do not believe that's the best way to ascert it. In fact, you don't have to. Other traditional rulers will accrue the due respect to thr stool of the Aalafin deserves it.

In fact, this arrogamce from thr Aalfin of Oyo potrays a clear indication of inferiority complex, covered with the cosmetic of arrogance. He needs to cool down and let respect take its course.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by inyass2580(m): 11:42am On Jan 13
All na politics

Dy dn spoil yoruba tradition wit dr selfish interest.//. Oyo yato si ibadan why d hatred among dem?? Oloselu to tun je oba

Stupid ppl wt stupid followers..
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Arutan: 11:42am On Jan 13
[quote author=Goodvibes007 post=138117461]Because Ife is extremely ancient. As in very ancient. The dug up artifacts proved the city to be very ancient.

The present Badagry king that died even said they were originally from Ife along the Ewe in Togo.

Check the video below.

is the source and the Ooni is the most supreme of all kings in yoruba race.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Tflex01: 12:09pm On Jan 13
JooEeL:
Hahas. Yoruba been like war that year o. How times have changed
Yorubas fought many war in the past, both the necessary and unnecessary ones. Now they know that the cost of war is huge and it’s always better to tow the path of peace.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by SisterAnn(f): 12:19pm On Jan 13
Lukumi people!

Na wa o.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by benardtotti(m): 12:50pm On Jan 13
Okexchange:
We know Oyo owns Yorubaland and the Yoruba identity but Alaafin should calm down abeg. The empire is long gone.
His domain doesn't extend to ibadan and infact is smaller than the Olubadans domain in size .

Ibadan created an empire outside of oyo in the 18th century.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Okexchange: 12:56pm On Jan 13
benardtotti:
His domain doesn't extend to ibadan and infact is smaller than the Olubadans domain in size .

Ibadan created an empire outside of oyo in the 18th century.
We know bro. We are talking about the Yoruba identity and the Yoruba kingdom which metamorphose to today’s Yorubaland. It’s not about his domains and where he rules
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by lagonovo: 12:56pm On Jan 13
Are we still talking about traditional institutions here? Are those factors in consideration in Yoruba culture and tradition? What is the meaning of "traditional" rulers?

Some related facts:
1 - The ruler of Ibadan (the Olubadan) was not ranked as a "First Class Oba" until the mid-20th century.
2 - Baale vs. Oba: For most of its history, Ibadan's leader was a Baale (a civil head), not an Oba (a consecrated king).
3 - The 1936 Change: It wasn't until 1936 that the title was officially changed from Baale of Ibadan to Olubadan.
4 - The 1976 Beaded Crown: The Olubadan did not receive the right to wear a beaded crown (the ultimate symbol of Yoruba royalty) until 1976, under the reign of Oba Gbadamosi Adebimpe. This was a result of decades of political lobbying to match Ibadan’s modern size with ancient traditional status.

illicit:
His town is very small compared to Ibadan and this Olubadan senior am in all ramifications

At least he should stretch his hand while standing,...


If the Olubadan take that handshake it would appear he was bowing to the Alaafin
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by lagonovo: 1:09pm On Jan 13
zelnababa:
The oyos still believe in old and dead empire, Owoade should act as a leader, you can't be having issue with every monarch, that shows he was the problem.
Every king still believe in old and dead kingdoms, with no exception! All the kingdoms and empires are dead. Any reference to them will have to be all or nothing, they are traditional and the traditional context of their relationship must be in consideration until they are all constitutionally eradicated.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by JooEeL(m): 1:09pm On Jan 13
Tflex01:
Yorubas fought many war in the past, both the necessary and unnecessary ones. Now they know that the cost of war is huge and it’s always better to tow the path of peace.
I swear. Unnecessary ones too lol
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by Amalekki: 1:17pm On Jan 13
It all depends on what you are reading and what makes the headlines. Keep in mind that some people are very experienced with political maneuvers/manipulation and they will easily make you look bad even if you are only upholding your own heritage.

Go the extra mile to dig into some of these issues and the personalities, beyond the news headlines, and you may be shocked at your findings.

PriceActionZ:
Seems this aalafin oyo forced himself there. It's like he is not loved at all even among the kings. Too much disrespect. He likes to create unnecessary beef everywhere with everyone.
Even you are having beef with someone, there is always a mature way to handle that. There is what Yoruba called "oju aye". At least do that and save your self from unnecessary drama.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by zelnababa(m): 1:28pm On Jan 13
lagonovo:
Every king still believe in old and dead kingdoms, with no exception! All the kingdoms and empires are dead. Any reference to them will have to be all or nothing, they are traditional and the traditional context of their relationship must be in consideration until they are all constitutionally eradicated.
this particular king, no leadership qualities at all.
Re: Respect The Olubadan Stool Or Face Consequences - Ibadan Stakeholders To Alaafin by TheGreat99(m): 1:31pm On Jan 13
Family problem
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