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| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by drstranged: 8:38pm On Jan 14 |
Putindbutt:If they're mere trainees like you say then they shouldn't attend to patients but should only go to the hospital to learn. The fact that they see and treat patients mean they ought to be paid for rendering such services or would you allow someone work for you for free without being paid? And if we should follow your reasoning then it shouldn't bother you that a lot of them are leaving the country in droves to countries that appreciate their values. Afterall you can't force someone to 'train ' under you. Let them go and train in countries that understand and appreciate their value. Funny thing is that even your so called politicians whom you have refused to hold accountable for the rot in the health sector would still travel out to these countries and be treated by same Nigerian resident doctors you call trainees or incompetent and whom they refused to pay well. And even more funny, these your so called politicians would pay them 100 times over there for treatment what they would have paid them here in Nigeria. I know of a doctor who left Nigeria about 2 years ago to the UK because of this same issues. Funny enough, in the hospital he works he was the one that treated one of your very popular politicians (I wouldn't mention his name for sake I patient privacy). That politician paid thousands of pounds for consultation and treatment to that same doctor who was despised when he was in Nigeria. So who lost in the end? Was it the doctor who got more than double in hard currency? Or you the masses who's tax money was paid to another country in hard currency. So Nigeria and Nigerians eventually lost out not the doctor they crucified. Instead of you to attack your politicians who are supposed to make healthcare fantastic in your country, you're wrongly directing your invectives at a doctor who has so many options at his disposal. Indeed common sense is not common. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Maddev: 8:55pm On Jan 14 |
Putindbutt:You think medicine is easy right? If you're in medical line you won't be saying all this nonsense. Medical students will spend millions going to school, spend more than 7 years studying then graduate to shoulder incredibly high workload for a small change. And the certification you're talking about, it's a post graduate certificate they are talking about not an undergraduate one like you ignorantly said... In some professions (like cyber security) certifications are given after completion of each exam so what they're fighting for isn't bad if it's legal |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Mindlog: 8:55pm On Jan 14 |
Putindbutt:Everyone will not become a doctor and Nigerian doctors should be well paid for the skills and services they bring to tablet not the peanuts they are being paid while politicians get hugely paid for being incompetent. A doctor earning N800K in a calendar month, is just peanuts and Nigeria will continue to lose healthcare practitioners to foreign countries. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by drmuri(m): 9:14pm On Jan 14 |
Putindbutt: |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by drmuri(m): 9:29pm On Jan 14 |
[quote author=drmuri post=138136825][/quote]Your write up stinks of ignorance and envy. You are obviously not informed about what your are babbling about. Resident doctors run specialist clinics, what stops them from getting specialist allowance? Mind you, it is not for everyone, it is for Senior registrar 1 who are on CONMESS 5. They perform specialist duties so what stops them from enjoying specialist allowance. Mind you, the table for the allowance has been approved for years and paid initially before it was suspended. Moreover, we gave 2 exams. National and west African college of surgeons/ physicians. After part 1 in west African college of surgeons/physicians you are issued certificate of membership which qualifies you as specialist NOT consultant, what stops national from issuing same post 1 certificate? So understand the issue before commenting with ignorance |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by jaephoenix(m): 10:06pm On Jan 14 |
Putindbutt:Its either you're ignorant or mischievous. Many specialist colleges in the world including US,UK etc issue certs after Part 1. This helps the doctor to swap specialist training elsewhere. Do your research before displaying ignorance |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by jeff1993: 11:43pm On Jan 14 |
Hahahahaha.... Bro u don kee me Elusive001: |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Winnin009: 2:51am On Jan 15 |
Corporate2020:Did you just say doctors earn too much?! Lol. Omo! |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Winnin009: 2:56am On Jan 15 |
drsibz66:Crabs in a barrel type shii. I'm not earning well; no one must earn well Disgusting people. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Winnin009: 2:59am On Jan 15 |
Putindbutt:Bro, na to enter market remains for you. I'm legit trying to understand you but na just foolishness be your end goal because what are you on abeg?! Which point you dey try make?! |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Winnin009: 3:02am On Jan 15 |
Putindbutt:Keep shut there... he dey talk my field like say no be hand work you get. With all your ranting, e clear say if you go school, you clearly no sabi shii But you no go school. No learned person go spew this nonsense weh you dey spew up and down. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Winnin009: 3:05am On Jan 15 |
Judolisco:I been reply you sensibly but I just gat clear am because clearly, you no get sense. If you think a doctor to 40 to 50 patient is lazy then bro... you no get sense. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by chukwuma234: 5:18am On Jan 15 |
which hospitals were shutdown since 5months? Ojuntana: |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Judolisco(m): 6:30am On Jan 15 |
Winnin009:doctors ain't lazy.... Na d cater wey quote me I dey talk to |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Elusive001: 6:51am On Jan 15 |
jeff1993:You suppose know say some peeps move about with marijuana-filled brains, like that guy and many others like him here. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by dapsoneh: 7:20am On Jan 15 |
Putindbutt:it's glaring you were rusticated in medical school or ur dreams of becoming a doctore w a s shattered at on point or the other. Havent you seen ther sister college( West Africa ) issue certificate after Part 1? What is special about the local college doong the same? |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Lanretoye(m): 8:06am On Jan 15 |
Alliswell248:to read is too difficult for you,you should have seen where they wrote 90b annual increase…lazy Nigerian youth |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by nervorum: 9:11am On Jan 15 |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by nervorum: 9:27am On Jan 15 |
By now every healthcare worker, especially doctors, who seem to be the tipping point of the spear to transform Nigeria healthcare, should know Nigeria and her people are not worth it. If you withdraw services to draw the attention of the govt to fix the system, you’re demonized by same people you’re fighting for. If you go above and beyond in impossible circumstances, nobody acknowledges you. But If you make mistakes in an attempt to help in this broken system ( and you’re guaranteed to cos of the failed system), you’re thrown under the bus, by same people you break your back for. Dear Nigerian doctors, make una nor do pass una self. The people are not worth it. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Ojuntana: 9:51am On Jan 15 |
chukwuma234:Federal hospitals |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Jeje247: 11:24am On Jan 15 |
Putindbutt:
They are not putting monies in the right places. And there is nothing wrong In revisiting the negotiation table after agreement considering the persisting inflation and multiple taxations eroding the value of income daily |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by ultraviolet27(f): 1:52pm On Jan 15 |
Maddev: Jeje247:which medical student spend millions to study medicine in public universities in nigeria? maybe the fewer ones in who attended private universities though because schooling in nigerian government universities are heavily subsidized I don't support Nigerian polithievians especially the HOR members, and senators who receive bogus salaries and allowances which they don't even use for their constituencies the money is meant for but if any profession spent millions for their higher education schooling it should be the lawyers if you know how much a law textbook costs let alone the amount paid in law school year the lawyers don't even worry the government like this And if any profession is to be paid in a 6 figure it is the teachers because without them even a doctor,a lawyer,a judge or an agriculturist wouldn't have emerged yet the teachers will go on strike for months and won't still be compensated I detest when professionals are underpaid but you can't compare the wages of Doc who their education wasn't subsidized abroad to nigerian doctors who were shouldn't those foreign ones be compensated and renumerated more for the educational loans they took? Meanwhile Nigerian government should cut down on the allowances and salaries they pay their politicians for doing absolutely nothing it's too much how can a few be living in opulence amongst masses living in squalor?? |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by ultraviolet27(f): 2:03pm On Jan 15 |
Mindlog:so they even earn up to 800k in a month and you still refer that to as peanut? even their teachers who made them in secondary schools never even earned up to that in a year Omo Teachers just come this world come suffer! funny enough even if they jakpa I don't think they will end up earning 800k after all the tax deductions any doctor who wants to jakpa is free though, they were never in it for the passion and humanity before only for the money the last set of Doctors who are passionate in their job died in the late 70's How much did they even spend in the institutions to acquire their medical certificates? |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Charlesblast: 4:20pm On Jan 15 |
[quote author=ultraviolet27 post=138146656][/quote]So obvious you don't know what you are talking about. Buying Government propaganda without doing any research of your own. Talking sentiment without substance. Which course if study has the most expensive school fees in every higher institution in the country apart from requiring the highest or close to the highest cut off marks to enter Law books are toys compared to the medical books both in numbers and in costs. If Medicine is supposed to be based on charity then make it free. That Government subsidised talk is just a distraction and listening to you, obviously it's working. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by DrFunmisticGlow: 5:08pm On Jan 15 |
Jeje247:Let's not forget that the 90 billion is not for doctors alone, but all health workers. That's one thing the government is not saying. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by DrFunmisticGlow: 5:17pm On Jan 15 |
ultraviolet27:after 14 years minimum medical school and residency, will you be happy with 800k per month when your tech bros are raking millions monthly?.. After working 24-72hrs at a stretch for calls, will you be happy with 800k per month? After having less time for your family than those who do 8-5, no one will be happy. The money time and sleep less nights invested to read and treat patients is worth more than 800k monthly. Many resident doctors start with about 300-400k monthly while specialists(consultants)are the ones earning 800k. Many consultants work in 2-3places just to put food on the table. Some people on these comments are right. Medicine isn't worth it. It may be Better to be a tech bro, a yahoo yahoo boy and an ashawo, than to do this doctor donkey work. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by DrFunmisticGlow: 5:19pm On Jan 15 |
nervorum:Exactly!! Do other non medicine related side hustles so that you won't be stuck in this pit of donkey work that is medicine with no way out. You can wake up one day and decide to quit medicine just like a growing number of sensible people. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Mindlog: 5:29pm On Jan 15 |
ultraviolet27:You are joking, right? I am a Clinical Practitioner, working for a borough (local government) here in Central London, 36hrs a week. My net monthly pay is many times that N800K. |
| Re: Why We Can’t Give Resident Doctors Special Allowances – FG by Babatundehy: 5:46pm On Jan 15 |
Putindbutt:It shows you're not very bright and are also either poorly informed or just out on this comments section to flame, and garner likes from fellow poorly informed folks. From your pile of falsehood, your points are doctors and lecturers are greedy, have you tried being either? Do you know what it means to deal with sick people or to impact knowledge and make a better human being capable of affecting his environment positively? Let us forget the years of schooling it takes to become both, do you know how hard lecturing can be? how risky dealing with a sick patient can also be? Or the knowledge and expertise it takes to accurately diagnose and fix a sick person especially in our present Nigeria where hospitals still use funnels to count baby heartbeats and doctors have to deal with pregnant women who never came for antenatal or wounds from farmers who applied herbs on deep cuts rather than immediately visiting an health center? You think that a certain group continues to demand a fair pay equates greed, does this group block any other group from any other profession from making such demands? People like you are often the type who cannot afford these big names private facilities in the cities, you are quick to state any garbage spewed from Abuja by these insatiable looters smell like roses, but also quick to recite verses from your holy books when you're at the hospital, sick and see how very ill equipped the space is, you figure only a miracle or luck could save you, if not a professional willing to improvise and make personal sacrifices. Are local government teachers paid what they deserve? How many in the civil service eat whatever they want these days? Artisans, mechanics, plumbers are doing a lot better, some okada men make a lot more than nurses who are exposed daily to sicknesses, human filth and wastes, not to mention dealing with patients' emotions. These government officials check even their vitals outside the country, when sick they know what foreign hospitals to visit, we know this is because our own hospitals here are world class and these politicians just need reasons to tour huh? Nigeria is a looter's heaven, a tyrant's paradise, where else would people who are being suffered continue to attack themselves at the sole detriment of their own selves? |
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