₦airaland Forum

runningriot:
If truth be told the governor should have named the Alafin first before His Royal Highness Ladoja to respect order of hierarchy. However, political and personal reasons like the coronation and giving of the president's son title couple with how the Alafin been caught in the webs of so many unfortunate melo dramas the governor has to do what he did.

chopnaira:
More pictures from the event.

1: From left, Oyo State Governor, Seyi Makinde; Soun of Ogbomoso, Oba Ghandi Olaoye and Chairman, Oyo State Council of Obas and Olubadan of Ibadanland, Oba Rashidi Ladoja, during the Inauguration of the Council by Governor Makinde, held at House of Chiefs, Secretariat, Ibadan. PHOTO: Oyo Gov's Media Unit.
How will makinde appoint ladoja as chairman of Oyo state council of obas over the alafin. This is sacrilege. Alafin is over 1000 years old senior that of olubadan. Ibadan is just a war camp,it was never a town from inception

2: Oyo State Governor, Seyi Makinde (left); Eleruwa of Eruwa, Oba Samuel Adegboola (right) and other Obas, during the inauguration of Oyo State Council of Obas by Governor Makinde, held at House of Chiefs, Secretariat, Ibadan.

PHOTO: Oyo Gov's Media Unit.

LabStores:
Sacrilege!

What a time!
Kingdom, kingship and throne has no been reduced to political and age position, it's no longer about the throne...

This absolutely makes no sense!

This can never happen in Edo, Ogun or Osun state, where ọọni is the permanent chairman.
Why is that? Are the Paramount kings in those states that are the PERMANENT chairman the only king in those states?
Even before the creation of Osun State, Alaafin was above ọọni,
The Alaafin of Oyo served as the Chairman of the Oyo State Council of Obas and Chiefs.
By that structure, he was the official presiding traditional ruler over Obas from Oyo, Osun, and parts of present-day Ogun State.

It was even Alaafin that made olubadan who used to just be a chief to Alaafin a king, he created that Kingdom.


Give respect and honour to whom it is due.

Lanre1st:
Makinde has realised his mistake of appointing this Man as Alafin

LabStores:
I don't argue with daft people or hypocrites.
For you to say this, You either don't know anything about Yoruba history and Kingdom, or you're just a hypocrite.
Ọọni is never and will never be above Alaafin of ọyọ, and I'm not even from ọyọ State.

LabStores:
Some of you just lack understanding and decorum.
What is this nonsense of if not for Ibadan that I keep reading!?
It's like a situation of Nigeria at war, Abuja and the president is under attack and ogun state or kogi State governor coming to his rescue etc. Take a moment to digest that.
So because Ogun State or kogi State came to the rescue of the president, then we should all worship them and place them above the president? Does that even make sense to you?
Was the olubadan not a chief to Alaafin?
Were these warriors and soldiers in Ibadan not subjects of Alaafin?
Go and educate yourself on history and Kingdom of the Yoruba people.

Ponmoalata:
Why are they not rotating council leadership in osun?

Alaafin is still the no 1 king for all the yorubas.

They may not like the current king but the stool is what began the whole yoruba race.

Goodvibes007:
They are controlling their own domain.

Governor Makinde and the Oyo state house of asembly started the rotation for justice, fairness, and equity.

Truth be told, if not for Ibadan, Fulani would have colonized the whole of Yorubaland. They deserve their flowers.

If not for Ibadan, alot of us would have been bearing names like AbdulRaman, Abdullahi, Abdulmalik e.t.c just like in Ilorin. The Ibadans were the ones that stopped the conquest of the Fulani jihadist at Oshogbo on the their way to dip their sword in the Atlantic ocean as per the desire of Uthman Dan Fodio.

Amotolongbo:
I understand that you are suffering from nostalgic syndrome.

Empire rises and fall. What’s left behind after the fall of an empire is the legacy.

From your analysis, Constantinople was the capital of the Ottoman Turkish empire at their peak before 1922 before it finally crumbled. The empire is now reduced to Turkey with a new capital Ankara.

If not for politics and constitution, maintaining tradition would Alaafin have the power to control whoever is ruling Ibadan as Baale? Present constitution is the one giving the Alaafin the privilege it enjoys. Of course Oyo and her king can’t withstand Ibadan if they go to war. Ibadan will be the one controlling Oyo cos Ibadan will be an empire on its own.

Once again, quit nostalgic syndrome. A train that is gone is gone.

MrPaul2:
Where did you get this your history from? How many years is the alafin office and how many is that of ooni? 100yrs against over 1000yrs. You really make me laugh with this your history

Ponmoalata:
Finally someone with a tangible comment.

And in my opinion l, I think the hierarchy should have been maintained regardless of the shenanigans of the current oyo king.

Folks need to know that Alaafin is still the no.1 king for the Yorubas.

seunmsg:
You actually gave a wrong analogy.

1. In a democracy, the president is elected to lead a sovereign state. In the old Oyo empire, the Alaafin used military might to subjugate and control so many towns. Once the emperor loses the military power, all previous tributaries will gain their independence. Some can even become more powerful than the old empire. A good example is the British empire that is now a toothless bulldog and America, a former colony that is now more powerful. So, should the American president still be paying homage and taking orders from the British crown?

2. The Old Oyo empire was completely destroyed. It no longer exists. Ibadan was founded after the destruction of the old Oyo empire. So, due to the need to preserve the history of an empire that was once great, Ibadan leaders thought it wise to recreate another Oyo royal dynasty at Ago Oja, a place very far away from the original Oyo that had been burnt down by Ilorin forces. Prince Atiba, one of the surviving prince of the old Oyo was crowned and they used their military power to protect him. So, it wasn’t a case of a vassal state defending the empire and rescuing the emperor in a war situation, it’s the case of a new power helping to preserve the history of an old power.

3. We are now in a democratic republic and everyone is subjected to the rule of law. The law setting up Oyo State council of Obas is very clear; the chairmanship must be rotated between the Olubadan, Alaafin and Soun. So, this is not even about any history but the law. If the Alaafin thinks there is something wrong with the law, he should go to court and challenge it. It’s that simple.

Cajal:
Ladoja conceptualized the road including the road map , ajimobi started it and SEYI continues ...
Hopefully penkelemessi will complete it
Argue with fact not sentiment

LabStores:
It's very easy to seive out you people's senseless hypocrisy and bias.
When it comes to ọọni, we must preserve history and tradition, but when it comes to Alaafin, the ọyọ empire no longer exists. Judge yourself, do you sense if you think like this

maidstone:
You are a liar!

Alaafin was the permanent chairman of traditional rulers of old Oyo State

LabStores:
It's very easy to seive out you people's senseless hypocrisy and bias.
When it comes to ọọni, we must preserve history and tradition, but when it comes to Alaafin, the ọyọ empire no longer exists. Judge yourself, do you sense if you think like this

Yorubastardz:
Yoruba Queens and their petty drama
Elders acting like the Kardashians

Goodvibes007:
They are controlling their own domain.

Governor Makinde and the Oyo state house of asembly started the rotation for justice, fairness, and equity.

Truth be told, if not for Ibadan, Fulani would have colonized the whole of Yorubaland. They deserve their flowers.

If not for Ibadan, alot of us would have been bearing names like AbdulRaman, Abdullahi, Abdulmalik e.t.c just like in Ilorin. The Ibadans were the ones that stopped the conquest of the Fulani jihadist at Oshogbo on the their way to dip their sword in the Atlantic ocean as per the desire of Uthman Dan Fodio.

BodyCount:
Absolutely nonsense

See what all these hungry and senile politicians have reduced our paramount royal councils into.

In osun State, we have more the 30 obas and up to 10 important and powerful ones, but the ọọni that's even lower to Alaafin is made the PERMANENT chairman - DUE TO SELFISH POLITICS...
But in ọyọ state, that DAFT GOVERNOR CAN PUT OLUBADAN ABOVE ALAAFIN.

muyico:
But Seyi makinde bent,
B4 shaking hands with baba


Proudness not good

Amotolongbo:
Look into the mirror, what you see in the mirror is “senseless hypocrisy and bias”.

Ife was also an empire but little was documented and written about it until the recent archeological findings.
Ife still retain its king, part of its land with the monuments, crowns and there was no evidence of discontinuity in throne. Could all these be said about Oyo empire?

LabStores:
Lol
Keep deceiving yourself
No be only ìfẹ empire, na iwo empire
Very funny people... You just want to twist and change history by force. When did ọọni started becoming king?

BodyCount:
Absolutely nonsense

See what all these hungry and senile politicians have reduced our paramount royal councils into.

In osun State, we have more the 30 obas and up to 10 important and powerful ones, but the ọọni that's even lower to Alaafin is made the PERMANENT chairman - DUE TO SELFISH POLITICS...
But in ọyọ state, that DAFT GOVERNOR CAN PUT OLUBADAN ABOVE ALAAFIN.

seunmsg:
My brother, there is a big difference between the position of the Ooni and Alaafin. Ile Ife is the source of all humanity. It is our orirun. Whether you’re Alaafin, Oba of Benin, Olu of Warri, Oba of Lagos, Olubadan, Alake etc, we all trace our ancestry and royalty back to Ile Ife.

So, the leadership position of the Ooni is inherent. All Yoruboid groups don’t argue about that. We cannot joke with our source because doing that will amount to denigrating our history.

Alaafin on the other hand has not such inherent leadership position. He became powerful strictly as a result of military conquest. Sadly, he no longer possesses that military power. So, nobody owes him any loyalty again. All the vassal states under the old empire are now independent towns under the sovereignty of Nigeria.