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Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 3:29pm On Jan 16
Dtruthspeaker:
Thank God even you said "on earth".

Death is only a ceasation of living on Earth, like forceful eviction.

And just like eviction, It does not mean you do not go on living. You are only living somewhere else based on forced relocation.

And, when Samuel and Lazarus were said to be sleeping, the earth showed that they had since died
They were said to be sleeping! That does not mean they are sleeping like we do! It doesn't even corelate with the discuss!

Whenever you sleep does your body decay?
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Dtruthspeaker: 3:54pm On Jan 16
AntiChristian:
They were said to be sleeping! That does not mean they are sleeping like we do! It doesn't even corelate with the discuss!

Whenever you sleep does your body decay?
Go and read them again. The Bible said Samuel and Lazarus had died first
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Ken4Christ: 4:50pm On Jan 16
AntiChristian:
In clear terms, your Jesus that came to the world was 100% mortal and 0% divine?
No. He was 100% human and 100% divine. And he was immortal until our sins were laid on him.

He didn't exercise his divine authority fully because of his mission to redeem mankind
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Ken4Christ: 4:53pm On Jan 16
sonmvayina:
so you saying it is just jesus the man that died and Jesus the God was somewhere else. First question, when did God say he needed a human sacrifice before he can forgive sin? last time I checked, this was what he said in 2nd chronicles 7:14. "if my people will humble themselves and confess their sins and forsake their evil ways, I will hear from heave , forgive their sins and heal their land........
which God planned for Jesus to come and die, and which God is his father..
You can't separate both. He is divinity in human flesh. But he let go of his divine status just to save us.

He told those who came to arrest him that he could pray to the Father who will release angels to deliver him. But he chose not to. He willingly died. Otherwise, no one could kill him.
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 7:51am On Jan 17
Dtruthspeaker:
Go and read them again. The Bible said Samuel and Lazarus had died first
So when they died did they still remain alive and roam the world?

Were their bodily organs still functioning?

Can Samuel and Lazarus still eat or reproduce?

I think they are dead!
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 8:01am On Jan 17
Ken4Christ:
No. He was 100% human and 100% divine. And he was immortal until our sins were laid on him.

He didn't exercise his divine authority fully because of his mission to redeem mankind
Have you ever seen a negative number that is positive? That's abnormal. God is eternal. Humans die! God cannot die! If Jesus is divine yet he dies then he's not divine! God cannot even become ignorant! Jesus was asked about the hour and he said he doesn't know!

God exercises His authority over us all the time! I see no reason why God who is unlimited will become limited while retaining his unlimited ability?

Your logic is faulty and illogical.
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Dtruthspeaker: 6:42pm On Jan 17
AntiChristian:
So when they died did they still remain alive and roam the world? !
Did you see them roam in this world where you are?
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Ken4Christ: 7:57pm On Jan 17
AntiChristian:
Have you ever seen a negative number that is positive? That's abnormal. God is eternal. Humans die! God cannot die! If Jesus is divine yet he dies then he's not divine! God cannot even become ignorant! Jesus was asked about the hour and he said he doesn't know!

God exercises His authority over us all the time! I see no reason why God who is unlimited will become limited while retaining his unlimited ability?

Your logic is faulty and illogical.
Your carnal mind is unable to grasp spiritual truth. Just invite Christ into your life and you will experience instant transformation.
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 5:28am On Jan 18
Dtruthspeaker:
Did you see them roam in this world where you are?
No, we that are sleep can see ourselves. We can't see the dead anymore!

So you lied that the dead are sleeping!
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 5:30am On Jan 18
Ken4Christ:
Your carnal mind is unable to grasp spiritual truth. Just invite Christ into your life and you will experience instant transformation.
When Christ embraced human body no be carnal mind he embrace?

You don't even see the limitations of your theories! In the end you make no sense at all except as a brainwashed radio!
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Dtruthspeaker:
AntiChristian:
No, we that are sleep can see ourselves. We can't see the dead anymore!

So you lied that the dead are sleeping!
Men, you muslims minds are completely twisted. You just confirmed you did not see them after they had died, yet you still twisted it so that you can say I lied? I told you before, you Muslims are ma...

See what your brother just said

How Islam Has Brainwashed Me. by Tenrack: 10:22am On Jan 11
Please we need a counter thread for the "How Christianity has brainwashed me" thread. How has Islam brainwashed us Islamist?

Let me start; I used to recite the Qur'an once in a week but now I recite the Qur'an 700 times a day. Feel free to add yours please.

Clearly, not sound
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 8:44am On Jan 18
Dtruthspeaker:
You just confirmed you did not see them after they had died, so you are talking rubbish
After they died they slept again ABI?
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:49am On Jan 18
Jesus was 100% human {1John 4:2} but since he once lived in heaven as one of God's spirit sons supernatural powers to do things was in him until moment when Satan accused Jesus {Revelation 12:10} of using his gifts to sustain the pains of torture then God took away that power to render Jesus completely helpless that was the moment Jesus felt as if God has abandoned him! Matthew 27:46
So the supernatural powers given to other servants of God to perform great signs was completely given to Jesus but he was 100% human not God!
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Dtruthspeaker: 9:02am On Jan 18
AntiChristian:
After they died they slept again ABI?
Men, I don't know if your twisted mind can ever allow you comprehend for even the dictionary tells you that death is sleep.
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Ken4Christ: 5:17pm On Jan 18
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AntiChristian:
When Christ embraced human body no be carnal mind he embrace?

You don't even see the limitations of your theories! In the end you make no sense at all except as a brainwashed radio!
Just try it. Don't judge a book by its cover. So many Muslims have embraced Christ and got their lives transformed. There are too many testimonies to this effect.
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 5:00pm On Jan 19
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was 100% human {1John 4:2} but since he once lived in heaven as one of God's spirit sons supernatural powers to do things was in him until moment when Satan accused Jesus {Revelation 12:10} of using his gifts to sustain the pains of torture then God took away that power to render Jesus completely helpless that was the moment Jesus felt as if God has abandoned him! Matthew 27:46
So the supernatural powers given to other servants of God to perform great signs was completely given to Jesus but he was 100% human not God!
So how can a human die for the sins of several billions?
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 5:01pm On Jan 19
Dtruthspeaker:
Men, I don't know if your twisted mind can ever allow you comprehend for even the dictionary tells you that death is sleep.
Which dictionary is that?
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 5:03pm On Jan 19
Ken4Christ:
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Just try it. Don't judge a book by its cover. So many Muslims have embraced Christ and got their lives transformed. There are too many testimonies to this effect.
Many Christians did revert to Islam! You can try Islam too!

One God is One God no illogical ads! God no get partner to help him!

God is not begotten nor does He begets!

God does not become man to embrace ridicule!
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:37pm On Jan 19
AntiChristian:
So how can a human die for the sins of several billions?
How can Adam infect billions with the sin he committed alone?
Àbí you were there when Adam sinned so that you are driven out of paradise now struggling to go back there?🙂
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Dtruthspeaker: 8:01pm On Jan 19
AntiChristian:
Which dictionary is that?
Google it
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 8:32am On Jan 20
Dtruthspeaker:
Google it
Google it and paste here or attach!
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 8:42am On Jan 20
MaxInDHouse:
How can Adam infect billions with the sin he committed alone?
Àbí you were there when Adam sinned so that you are driven out of paradise now struggling to go back there?🙂
Na wetin Paul talk be that: Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. Romans 5:12
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:06am On Jan 20
Forget about what Paul said and use your Quran to answer the question after all you people claim your Quran is God's word.
What brought you to this sinful world if Allah created the first human couple in Paradise?


AntiChristian:
Na wetin Paul talk be that: Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. Romans 5:12
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 9:12am On Jan 20
MaxInDHouse:
Forget about what Paul said and use your Quran to answer the question after all you people claim your Quran is God's word.
What brought you to this sinful world if Allah created the first human couple in Paradise?
Allah's purpose was to create humans on earth Al-Baqarah 2:30.
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58am On Jan 20
AntiChristian:
Allah's purpose was to create humans on earth Al-Baqarah 2:30.
So what is their crime that led to all these problems?
Or your Allah just want people to suffer?🙂
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by Ken4Christ: 10:01pm On Jan 20
AntiChristian:
Many Christians did revert to Islam! You can try Islam too!

One God is One God no illogical ads! God no get partner to help him!

God is not begotten nor does He begets!

God does not become man to embrace ridicule!
You know that there's no hope in Islam. No salvation in Islam. Even Muhammed was unsure of his ultimate destiny- Sura 46:9

In contrast, there is assurance of salvation in Christ - John 3:16.

Jesus knew where he came from and he knew where he is going.

He is the only man who rose first from the dead to die no more.

He is the Saviour of the world.

Even your Quran says those who follow Jesus are supreme to those who disbelieve him.

The choice is yours. Receive Christ and be saved. Reject him and be eternally damned
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by BlackfireX: 7:21am On Jan 21
godliman:
Even you a tripartite being will die one day and when it happens, only your body dies, your soul and spirit are immortal they don't die. The subject of Christ deity is a stumbling block and a rock of offense that will send many 'intelligent people' to hell. He said in John 8:24 KJV
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
You should have asked him Muhammad is he dead? If he is dead can Muslims get forgiveness of sins by venerating him and saying peace blessings be upon him when they are doing Tshada 5 times a day?

And watch him comatose grin

What he is asking is called dawah script
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 12:01pm On Jan 21
Ken4Christ:
You know that there's no hope in Islam. No salvation in Islam. Even Muhammed was unsure of his ultimate destiny- Sura 46:9
That verse you quoted was abrogated by Surah Al-Fath 48:2 - so that Allah may forgive you for your past and future shortcomings, perfect His favour upon you, guide you along the Straight Path.

And no Islam no Salvation - And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. Al-Imran 3:85.

You can never bring a verse for Christianity in the Bible as we all know everything was created long after Jesus!

In contrast, there is assurance of salvation in Christ - John 3:16.
In the same John, Jesus said he can of himself do nothing! So he definitely can't save anyone!

Jesus knew where he came from and he knew where he is going.
But he was ignorant of the hour when asked about it. Also he has no right to make anyone sit on his right or left in the Kingdom of God except whom God has destined it for.

He is the only man who rose first from the dead to die no more.
He's not o! Several ancient deities and mythical figures from various cultures, predating Jesus, experienced stories of death and return, including Mesopotamia's Tammuz, Egypt's Osiris, Syria/Greece's Adonis, Greece's Dionysus, and India's Krishna, often linked to natural cycles, though interpretations of "resurrection" vary from full rebirth to journeys to the underworld and back.

He is the Saviour of the world.
Another lie! Jesus said he was [b]ONLY [/b]sent to the lost sheep of Israel in Matthew.

Even your Quran says those who follow Jesus are supreme to those who disbelieve him.
Yes, those who follow him at that time were of course Muslims. They would be superior na!

The choice is yours. Receive Christ and be saved. Reject him and be eternally damned
Even Jesus himself was worshipping God when he was alive! Make i receive someone who worshipped God all through the night sometimes putting his head on the floor?

Praise be to Allah for the light of Islam!
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 12:03pm On Jan 21
MaxInDHouse:
So what is their crime that led to all these problems?
Or your Allah just want people to suffer?🙂
What crime?
Everything that happened was how Allah wants it to happen!
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:26pm On Jan 21
AntiChristian:
What crime?
Everything that happened was how Allah wants it to happen!
So why is your Allah complaining now if everything that happened is how he wants it?
Perhaps you need to read that book you called Quran again and think of what the people your Allah DESTINED to go into hell did because you may also be among those your Allah will cast into hell after all there is no reason whatsoever behind your Allah's deeds!🙂
Re: Unanswerable Question On The Death Of Jesus! by AntiChristian(op): 5:21pm On Jan 21
MaxInDHouse:
So why is your Allah complaining now if everything that happened is how he wants it?
Allah complained to you?

Perhaps you need to read that book you called Quran again and think of what the people your Allah DESTINED to go into hell did because you may also be among those your Allah will cast into hell after all there is no reason whatsoever behind your Allah's deeds!🙂
Allah forgives whoever He wills and Punishes whoever He wills. I think your Jehovah too created Good and bad times! I wonder what the bad time is for?

I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, Jehovah, am the one who does these things. Isaiah 45:5!
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