Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin - Politics (3)

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Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by runningriot: 9:46pm On Jan 18

Father4all:
that's why the Fulani took Ilorin from them

Bro! Please is it a statement of fact or a sarcasm?

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Konquest: 9:46pm On Jan 18

Islie:
https://leadership.ng/obas-council-we-are-no-more-in-oyo-empire-tinubus-aide-tells-alaafin/

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by omojeesu(m): 10:14pm On Jan 18

Internal destruction
Yoruba self debasement
Toast of the enemy

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Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Lanre1st(m): 10:14pm On Jan 18

runningriot:
Bro the Internet never forgets, it leaves traces that can't be erased let me tell you why my analogy is not wrong nor fallacious. Firstly, tell me one notable tribe in Nigeria that is having the problem of traditional power tusle like the Yoruba? If you said the present occupant of the Alafin throne is relegated because he was once disconnected from his people, entangle in a lot of scandals and above all has been banking on the history of Oyo supremacy what about the feud between the Oba of Lagos and Oni of Ife? What about the cancerous relationship between the former Alafin of Oyo and the Former Oni of Ife that extended to the present one? Least before I forget Awujale of Ijebu land Sikiru Adetona and the Alake of Egbaland Michael Gbedebo had a very fragile relationship that the former governor of Ogun Amosun have to weigh in because of power tusle. Apparently, all these kings were born and brought up in Nigeria, or were they banking on history to do what they were doing? Were they also mask with scandals?. Bro! Obviously, the Royal Rumble in Yoruba land is exploding to something else and taking a new twist and if power brokers do not take a comprehensive steps in curtailing this menace and madness something very much dangerous and terrible will happen someday.

My brother, we can go on and on on this matter but note one thing is everybody are fighting for freedom from dominance, and subject should take his chance when dominance is weak.

If we go back to history, Oyo was great empire no doubt, that control not only present SW but as far as Dahome in present Benin Republic, Togo. But since royal house has lost the control to Government they've been curtailed. Especially Alaafin Oyo, not only now since Awolowo time when they appointment Ooni Aderemi as Governor in SW instead of Alafin while (Sultan) mentained his North leadership.

But the truth is leadership is earned and maintain, if not no permanent champion and history alone is not enough to earn you power but good diplomacy, alignment with power brokers, your charisma, achievement etc.

Even the Oyo we talk about, some past kings earn it by organised and stand to defend the Yoruba empire, if not Ife should be the permanent leader in Yoruba land but it lost it to Oyo at the time. I think this time around Oyo is loosing it to Ibadan, change is only constant in life

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by zoedew: 10:19pm On Jan 18

Lanre1st:
Is Temitope Ajayi the Tinubu, don't you know PBAT they mentioned is just an adjective used to describe position of Temitope Ajayi. As I said you lack elementary knowledge.

I see your optics are jaundiced!

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by lapintoz: 10:31pm On Jan 18

If the Canadian japa alafin is not ready to support peace and unity in yoruba land, he should be deposed and sent back to Canada with impromptu alacraity

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Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Lanre1st(m): 10:35pm On Jan 18

runningriot:
Bro the Internet never forgets, it leaves traces that can't be erased let me tell you why my analogy is not wrong nor fallacious. Firstly, tell me one notable tribe in Nigeria that is having the problem of traditional power tusle like the Yoruba? If you said the present occupant of the Alafin throne is relegated because he was once disconnected from his people, entangle in a lot of scandals and above all has been banking on the history of Oyo supremacy what about the feud between the Oba of Lagos and Oni of Ife? What about the cancerous relationship between the former Alafin of Oyo and the Former Oni of Ife that extended to the present one? Least before I forget Awujale of Ijebu land Sikiru Adetona and the Alake of Egbaland Michael Gbedebo had a very fragile relationship that the former governor of Ogun Amosun have to weigh in because of power tusle. Apparently, all these kings were born and brought up in Nigeria, or were they banking on history to do what they were doing? Were they also mask with scandals?. Bro! Obviously, the Royal Rumble in Yoruba land is exploding to something else and taking a new twist and if power brokers do not take a comprehensive steps in curtailing this menace and madness something very much dangerous and terrible will happen someday.

On power tusle, it did not start now and it can not end. Every tribe has there own. I've heard about fights between Ogoja and Yala in cross river state? Kano Emirates, between Yala and an Ebonyi town (i forget the name). Not all northern emirs agree with Sultan leadership if not Federal power.

Even in history, what always cause fights between two kings is power tusle.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by runningriot: 11:15pm On Jan 18

Lanre1st:
On power tusle, it did not start now and it can not end. Every tribe has there own. I've heard about fights between Ogoja and Yala in cross river state? Kano Emirates, between Yala and an Ebonyi town (i forget the name). Not all northern emirs agree with Sultan leadership if not Federal power.

Even in history, what always cause fights between two kings is power tusle.

Bro, all the afformentioned Royal Supremacy are not obvious and pronounced like the one in Yoruba land they are not as frequent and glearing like the one in the O states. Kano referential point was even totally out of context because that of Kano is a litigation issue of whom is the true emir but the whole case with Yorubas is that all of them are legitimate Kings who are fighting for the supremacy over another.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Jayhome24: 12:12am On Jan 19

tdayoojo:
You have hate running in your blood. Don't kill yourself over nothing. The way you are going,your blood pressure will rise oh if you don't desist from hating. What has chairmanship rotation in Oyo State got do with BAT.

Pls ignore him or tell him to go to court.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Godfirst07: 12:41am On Jan 19

Eraddray:
If the present alaafin has placed himself in the position of respect...and not quarrelling up and down... He won't have been in this mess... he's the one dragging the name of oyo empire on the ground...

We all knw the history... alaafin should come first in Yoruba land.. ooni is the custodian of all oosa in Yoruba land...

Instead of the present alaafin to earn people's respect, he was busy fighting for the respect...

You are very wrong, Ooni is the number 1 king in Yoruba land and father of all kings, he’s the father of Alaafin and always, all the Yorubas traces their root to Ile Ife, what I have observed is that who ever disrespects the Ooni usually faces rejection and humiliation I guess that’s how much the spirit of the land love and protect the Ooni.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Kooyepeju01(m): 2:16am On Jan 19

SouthSouth1914:
Tinubu likes power play a lot. What is all these? If you can’t respect your elders, how do you expect in return ?

What concerns Tinubu about that?
You're saying a different things entirely.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Kooyepeju01(m): 2:22am On Jan 19

If not for legacy and posterity sake, all these Oba things no longer matters. Many of them were just an opportunists, they don't really add any value to their people. Aside from the so called history, culture, wearing beards, grabbing people's land, marrying virtually all the beautiful ladies in the community and walking majestically up and down in the community and being hailed, we don't see much of their positive effects any longer unlike in those days.

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Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by lionofafrica12: 3:10am On Jan 19

This Alaafin is causing too much trouble and he was falsely placed on the throne after he has spent many years in Canada. He should be dethroned and sent back to Canada.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by correctyourself(m): 3:45am On Jan 19

Goodvibes007:
Some Obas are doing well Sha.

The Soun just announced that he would not give any one cheiftancy title except you invested bigly in Ogbomosho.

The Ooni himself is using his status to draw investment all over Yorubaland.

The Alaafin needs to start doing the same and forget supremacy battles.

Ok that's good 👍

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by SouthSouth1914: 6:25am On Jan 19

Kooyepeju01:
What concerns Tinubu about that?
You're saying a different things entirely.

Please read with understanding and not read to respond.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Hellisreal70: 6:25am On Jan 19

You said that the empire and dominance is in the past, that they should forget it.
Then you said they should preserve the value and the culture. Culture and value on what basis, Is it not based on the history and the past?.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by dododawa1: 7:38am On Jan 19

Alaafin caused this

ramification in obas

settlement.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by ebenholer2(m): 7:40am On Jan 19

IF COUNCILS OF OBAS CHAIRMANSHIP IS BEING ROTATED IN OYO, WHAT IS STOPPING THE SAME BEING DONE IN OSUN. WHY
SHOULD OONI BE MADE PERMANENT CHAIRMAN OF OBAS IN OSUN TOO.
WITH WHAT I HAVE DISCOVERED, IT IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS CAUSING PERPETUAL CONFLICT AMONG THESE TRADITIONAL RULERS. THEY SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM TO OVERSEA THEIR TOWNS AND VILLAGES ALONE WITHOUT NEEDLESSLY APPOINTING CHAIRMANSHIP OR CHAIRMANSHIP AMONG THEM

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by bigiyaro(m): 7:44am On Jan 19

wunmi590:

This was copied from someone on twitter, instead of him to give credit to the original writer, he wnt to post it on FB, looking like he was the original writer...

Let try and always give credit to people's work, instead of owning what other people worked for...

no credit should be given in this case cos, when tunibu that is allegedly going up, comes down, this clown will answer for disrespecting his fore fathers.

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by bewla(m): 8:35am On Jan 19

BlocksNG:
Tinubu the narcotic has been disrespecting monarchs since the days of Pharaoh, somebody in his 90s. Agbaya.

I want to say something but on look at the name I see your pain but I can't feel it

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Eraddray(m): 8:48am On Jan 19

Maybe u should asked elders around ..I mean elders who knw the history very well... Maybe u can also Google hierarchy of King in Yoruba land according to history, or probably the first king in Yoruba land according to history, the search result will give u a tip about it... but elders with good knowledge of history will give u full details, starting from the days of oduduwa [quote author=Godfirst07 post=138186546][/quote]

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by bewla(m): 8:56am On Jan 19

iwaeda:
Temitope Ajayi is just fuelling the discord fire. Let me laugh loud.

he fail to tell the Kano emirate not to stop people listening to the music they like

But here he can talk

Am sure he did not read about bode Thomas
Soo one person will follow as examples

Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Captainp2(m): 12:08am On Jan 21

The debate over Yoruba royal supremacy, Ade Aare crown, and the authority of traditional rulers has resurfaced and this time, the revelations are explosive.

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Kabiyesi also shares his personal journey, why he left Kogi State with his people to return to Ile-Ife, the challenges he faced, and the controversies involving the Ogunsua of Modakeke, the Alaafin, and ongoing Ooni supremacy debates.

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Re: Obas Council: ‘We Are No More In Oyo Empire’, Tinubu’s Aide Tells Alaafin by Christistruth00: 12:16am On Jan 21

It is true that there's no more Oyo Empire but Alaafin is still the King of Oyo descended Yorubas just as the Alake is the king of all Egba Ake people and as Olowu is still the king of Owu despite the old Owu being a kingdom that is no more.

In hierarchy Because Alaafin is the king of the Oyo Clan and one from the Original 16 Ife Princes kingdoms he is higher than Olubadan but in tems of Political and Military power the Olubadan is more important as the ruler of Ibadan

Olubadan rules Ibadan people but the Rulers of Ibadan are of Oyo Ancestry mainly and so indirect subjects of Alaafin who is the Clan king of all the ethnic Oyos. Oyos are in Ekiti (Erinmope) Osun (Modakeke,Ede,Gbogan etc), Lagos ( Ifako Ijaiye), Kwara,Ogun, Benin Republic ( Porto Novo)

Then Ooni of Ife is the overall father of all the Yoruba Kings including Alaafin

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