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| And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by FSU(op): 12:37am On Jan 21 |
Nasiru El’Rufai is both an angry and an arrogant man. The combination of these two attributes makes him blockheadedly delusional. There is this video of Nasiru threatening Tinubu, in which he compared what happened to Jonathan in 2024 to what would happen to Tinubu in 2027. Now, I do not like Tinubu and hope he is kicked out and thrown into jail after 2027 for corruption, nepotism, and incompetence. But Nasiru is absolutely in no position to threaten Tinubu with the fate of Jonathan.For one, Jonathan is from a smaller, albeit oil-empowered, ethnic group in Nigeria. Jonathan did not challenge his loss by any means possible presumably because the population odds were against him. The entire North, South-West and even parts of his own South-South supported Buhari. In contrast, Tinubu is from one of the big three ethnic groups. I believe that at this point, 99% of Yorubas will support Tinubu. I believe that as the incumbent Tinubu has bribed his way enough in the South-South, South-East, and North, including among Muslims to garner enough votes that could make him president using all means possible, including rigging, voter intimidation, disenfranchisement, and tampering with digital ballot counting and transfer systems. Secondly, Tinubu is a thug and has enough thugs in his payroll to match Nasiru's and make Nigeria ungovernable. Thirdly, and importantly, Nasiru should be reminded that 2027 is the turn of the South. So instead of him running around and throwing tantrums and riling with anger, he should be talking to Atiku to relinquish any interest in contesting the presidency in 2027 and support Peter Obi. Only a southern contest with an Obi-type co-contestant can remove Tinubu from power in 2027. And I said ‘’can’’, not ‘’will’’. It’s a toss between them. I have come to accept that the preponderance of Nigerians are too poor to think rationally, such that bribing them with pittance is very easy to sway their votes. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by AAEEI: 1:58am On Jan 21 |
Great analysis. The arrogance coming from Atiku and Elrufai and a lot of northerners is pushing us towards southern solidarity, despite Tinubu being a thoroughly undesirable element. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by helinues: 4:29am On Jan 21 |
What's the current political relevancy of Elrufai in Kaduna state? |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by DatNiggaDaz: 4:42am On Jan 21 |
AAEEI: ![]() Southern what ? Bro speak for urself like you speak for data boys. Get this, there is nothing like Southern yoonity. We have SW parapoism and tribalism. The SS and SE are inconsequential in the dcheme of Southern yoonity according to data boys |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by WizardOfNG: 5:12am On Jan 21*. Modified: 7:18am On Jan 21 |
DatNiggaDaz:When are you people going to stop making any and everything about your butthurt (Google it) vindictiveness to get even with Yorubas because of all the self-inflicted losses you have caused yourselves unnecessarily fighting and envying Yorubas over one thing or another when we no send una yesterday, no send you today and will never send you tomorrow? Who goes to live and settle with who? Who needs everything from others while others need nothing from them? Answer truthfully to then understand who would be seeking Southern unity and those that do not give a toss about it. We are the least-dependent of the big four (Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani and Igbos) on any 'unity' with others, factually and according to how we live on the ground, let alone you guys from the SE we need for absolutely nothing. Stop bigging up your inconsequential region and people. When push comes to shove, it is only Yorubas from the South, out of the big four ethnic groups, who have shown the capacity to fight their own battles and win. Fact. 2027 will be no different and even assuming we need any assistance, it is not you hateful and vindictive people, lacking capacity and influence, we will turn to. Never. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by DatNiggaDaz: 5:15am On Jan 21 |
WizardOfNG: ![]() Save this your lamentations. Anything you sow, so you shall reap. If you are not hypocritical in life, you will know that what the fake certificate holder did to our son gej will be melted out to him. You and your folks joined hands to destroy the fske southern yoonity with your darling daddy. You are a very very funny creature. See hypocrisy. Taqyiyah will never bring you forward in life. Deal with it Remember SS and the votes of our neigbours from the East are inconsequential. When you grab all the Juice positions to yourself, you claim the "greatest" and the most "sophisticated" more than the better South. When the time reach you tell others to go back to their villages. You destroy their businesses because they look like our neigbours from the East Funny creatures |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by WizardOfNG: 5:20am On Jan 21 |
AAEEI:What makes Tinubu "thoroughly undesirable"? Perhaps it is you who lack exposure and knowledge to understand what others like Singapore did to move from slums, shanties and dysfunction to one of the economic powerhouse of the world regularly voted one of the best nations to live.in on Earth. Go and ask Singaporeans what they went through to understanding what Nigerians must also go through even as you ignorantly and simplistically think deep and fundamentally destructive damages done over many decades, far greater Than Singapore sustained, can be wiped away in 2 years to turn Nigeria Buhari left behind into Dubai meets Singapore. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by oz4real83(m): 5:23am On Jan 21 |
AAEEI:the reason for the arrogance is because this administration|APC has refused to genuinely fight corruption and criminality among politicians, being also a product of corruption. When there is a genuine anti corruption war, people like Atiku and El-rufia will find themselves in jail and their arrogance will stop. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by helinues: 5:30am On Jan 21 |
WizardOfNG:Those people meaning to words are opposite of the real meaning. Don't sweat |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by WizardOfNG: 5:30am On Jan 21 |
DatNiggaDaz:You are the one lamenting as an adult who behaves like a child who cannot deal with facts. What do Yorubas need from you to court unity with a people behind us that we have nothing to learn from? Did you not rush to copy Amotekun to create Ebebeagu? Where is Amotekun today if not waxing stronger as the best complementary security force to the NPF whereas Ebebeagu has long been disbanded for armed robbery, extortion, extra-judicial killings, human rights abuse etc? What does that reality tell sane and dispassionately neutral people about our character and yours,. juxtaposed side by side, in the wider context of who will ever seek unity with the other or who needs to learn from others to better themselves? Grow up and talk/think like an adult because reasonable people who come here daily to see what you lot post must believe it is easier to see Jesus serving food on the streets of a Nigeria than meet a reasonable, sensible and balanced adult from your region who thinks and talk as if they can conquer emotions and sentiments to reason properly via working with reality. You lot are all "Buhari is dead and replaced by Jubrin" fantasists. What Southern unity are you divisive lot granting or have power to grant? As if anyone wants unity with you people who, predictably, only brings hate and Vendetta-driven malevolence against your fellow southerners and Nation to the table. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by OneCandleAway(f): 5:38am On Jan 21 |
WizardOfNG:You insult a group of people and expect so called southern unity, like they are slaves. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by Gajagojo: 5:39am On Jan 21 |
AAEEI:Tinubu is not thoroughly undesirable He is not worse than Obasanjo Buhari or Jonathan He has many flaws but in my opinion he is the most purposeful leader we have had That does not mean he is great just that others have been less purposeful Whether you agree with his purpose is another thing One must be able to analyse objectively He removed subsidy something they all wanted to do but were too scared to do He has initiated 2 military depots in the South Got his tax bill through despite all objections Secured judgment for LGA autonomy Very likely we will see state police before election This week we heard non oil export reach record highest level I don't have to agree with these things but recognise a president that has some clear objectives That was lacking with Jonathan The problem many people have is they talk emotionally If there is a better candidate than Tinubu introduce him to us All these sound bites about how terrible Tinubu is might be populist but lack pragmatism I am not a Tinubu spokesman but I am happy for him to continue unless I see a better alternative that is not Fulani or Northern Muslim If he remains there likely will be more corruption but there won't be a Fulani in charge, no grazing reserves or Water bill and the Yoruba won't be marginalised The main. Concern us security. But I believe the north are orchestrating it. He has been weak on security but Trump has woken him up |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by WizardOfNG: 5:41am On Jan 21 |
[ helinues:Don't mind them bro. They need to hear the truth sometime even as we know many of them are hateful and delusional anarchists the truth means nothing to. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by Gajagojo: 5:53am On Jan 21 |
oz4real83:Fighting corruption is noble But corruption is not the reason we are not making progress There is corruption in Malaysia, Thailand, China Saudi Arabia Egypt In Egypt they are quite corrupt but they are not taking money abroad The difference in Africa when politicians steal money they take it to Europe or America If the stolen money stays in Nigeria we would be okay |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by WizardOfNG: 5:57am On Jan 21*. Modified: 6:15am On Jan 21 |
Gajagojo:Top post start to finish that says it all. Nigeria, no capping, would be a great nation if many reasons as you do. The list of pivotal achievements of Tinubu you put up, that all Presidents before him have avoided speaking of let alone implement, I can add 10- 20 others to effortlessly. Including MREIF government-backed low interest 20 year mortgage scheme, student loans, stupendous infrastructural development push across Nigeria, floating of the Nigeria to remove two tier rating (bank and black market), unique and new forest gaurd innovation etc, etc. The bolded is correct about many being about rhetoric and populist soundbites. Whereas If we do reality of where some of the most positively transformed nations of the world started from and where they are today, crucially factoring in what their people had to endure and sacrifice, can it be argued that the transformation of Nigeria is abnormal or especially more punitive than others stoically endured? Our people are just lousy and the severely disruptive ethno-religious bias of many Nigerians does not help either because it is what predisposes many against being incapable of looking at a leader or situation dispassionately. Were Obi to be President and going about issues the exact way Tinubu is, then his people will be staunchly behind him and his greatest cheerleaders today with an example being how they all claim Kanu is completely innocent of involvement in terrorism. I personally think Singapore etal bounced back spectacularly because of the mindset of their human resources. Whereas Nigerian human resources is 'severely challenged' to say the least meaning the leader who will deliver Nigeria will need plenty of divine assistance behind him/her.n |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by WizardOfNG: 6:04am On Jan 21 |
OneCandleAway:Is something wrong with you? You see "insult" in my post and not their own. Precisely same as an observer, who is certainly not neutral, noting a white supremacist attempt to demean and humiliate black man only to remain silent . Yet when the negro responds to defend himself that is when you find your sanctimonious voice to berate him. Abeg shift. You must be blind to how every development or discussion here is an opportunity for these people to attempt taking some mythical pound of flesh from Yorubas they believe we owe them. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by Gajagojo: 6:18am On Jan 21*. Modified: 6:46am On Jan 21 |
WizardOfNG:I am not a Tinubu supporter I prefer not to take sides but to side with Nigeria For now I don't see anything better than Tinubu but I believe Nigeria can do better so that saddens me a bit Indonesia in 1998 after the Asian Financial Crisis The Rupiah lost 80% of its valuefalling from around 2,400 IDR to the US dollar in mid-1997 to lows of over 14,000-16,000 IDR by mid-1998, It was even worse than what we gave experienced They recovered from that and today their GDP has grown to $1.5 trillion From $95.45 billion in 1998 They had to swallow the kind of medicine we are now swallowing He is pursuing Recapitalisation of Banks We must credit Obasanjo for doing the same we ned bigger stronger banks The electricity law gas opened the market and states can generate A major issue is subsidy and outstanding subsidy debt whis is being refinanced So I think there is some purposefulness |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by AMINDA: 6:24am On Jan 21 |
AAEEI:Pants on fire! Unity begging on steroids. Southern solidarity indeed. The South didn't vote Tinubu in 2023. He only won 4 Southwestern states. The North made him President with 5.6m votes. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by WizardOfNG: 6:33am On Jan 21 |
Gajagojo:The bolded is my point precisely. It is also okay to not be a Tinubu supporter but crucially, as you appear to be, it is important to at least side with Nigeria and what is best for her even if one has issues with her leaders. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by DatNiggaDaz: 7:35am On Jan 21 |
WizardOfNG: ![]() All these lamentations of yours are meaningless. Ok, agree. SW is the alpha and omega. Everyone copies you. Our son from the SS Jonathan Were you and your messiah the fake certificate holder not Team up with the North to remove Jonathan. Were you not the ones condemoing the better South when they criticized your darling daddy Buhari. What facts do you need again. Be there be beating your empty chest. Get that into you, there is nothing like "southern yoonity. Like El Rufai have told you guys, the way you SW removed Jonathan is the same way your fake certificate holder will be removed You can wail, cry , lament all you want, Tinubu is OTP ![]() |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by Gotocourt: 7:56am On Jan 21 |
I believe that at this point, 99% of Yorubas will support Tinubu ![]() Dey play my fans, Tinubu is a criminal with unverifiable identify . |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by Elusive001: 8:12am On Jan 21 |
AAEEI:Southern what? We will support the north against Tinubu. Where was your delusional "southern solidarity" when you guys joined the north against GEJ? Delusion is real |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by Christmyhope: 8:38am On Jan 21 |
Gajagojo:You have highlighted my reasons for supporting Tinubu. Tinubu is not perfect neither is he clean but he has purpose and directions unlike many of our past leaders who are timid, purposeless and directionless. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by oz4real83(m): 11:56am On Jan 21 |
Gajagojo:you are getting it wrong, all those countries you mentioned, majority of them have the death penalty for corruption. There is corruption everywhere, the difference is that in Nigeria, it is done with impunity, arrogance and the proceeds openly in use, tell me which corruption in the world that corrupt criminals will be openly flaunting proceeds of corruption, apart from in Nigeria and other third world countries? When Mr A steals money and still has his freedom and the stolen funds, Mr B will believe that he can do the same thing and nothing will happen, the same with Mr C ..........to Mr Z. Even if the stolen money is kept in Nigeria, they will be using it against political opponents and sponsor terrorism and other form of criminality. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by RemoteNaija: 1:12pm On Jan 21 |
FSU:The elites are playing chess with power while the masses are fighting for survival. Whether it is Tinubu, El-Rufai, or Jonathan, they are all wealthy men with foreign accounts. The average youth needs to stop fighting their battles and start fighting for their own economic independence. Build your own personal economy (preferably one that isn't dependent on the Naira). That is the only 'Political Party' that matters right now. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by plessis: 1:14pm On Jan 21 |
Even without saying it is the turn of the South, we could perceive the ewedu stench from several kilometres. |
| Re: And Nasiru El'rufai Threatens Tinubu With Jonathan's Fate. by hakeemhakeem(m): 5:20pm On Jan 21 |
DatNiggaDaz:How is lamenting?the winner or the loser. Your likes would only come to nairaland complaining There's only going to one winner and loser in an election |
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