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Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 7:08pm On Jan 23
I find it interesting that jesus in His resurrected body, still had holes in his hands and side. I would think they would have fully healed over in His resurrected state.
chtistians over to you, what is the illogical explanation?
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by BikoMERCYme(f): 7:32pm On Jan 23
sonmvayina:
I find it interesting that jesus in His resurrected body, still had holes in his hands and side. I would think they would have fully healed over in His resurrected state.
chtistians over to you, what is the illogical explanation?
Simple.....

not only Thomas wud have doubted him if those scars weren't on his body no more.....
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by Kobojunkie: 8:16pm On Jan 23
BikoMERCYme:
✓ Simple.....not only Thomas wud have doubted him if those scars weren't on his body no more.....
It was all for Thomas? So, did the wounds remain unhealed throughout the 40 days Jesus Christ of Israel is said to have remained with his disciples before his eventual ascension? 🥱🥱
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 8:49pm On Jan 23
BikoMERCYme:
Simple.....

not only Thomas wud have doubted him if those scars weren't on his body no more.....
so it was because of Thomas?
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by BikoMERCYme(f): 8:53pm On Jan 23
sonmvayina:
so it was because of Thomas?
Never said that......

Lot more pple around wud have doubted in if they couldn't find scar on him after resurrection.......

Seeing is believing afterall.....

Kobojunkie:
It was all for Thomas? So, did the wounds remain unhealed throughout the 40 days Jesus Christ of Israel is said to have remained with his disciples before his eventual ascension? 🥱🥱
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 8:57pm On Jan 23
BikoMERCYme:
Never said that......

Lot more pple around wud have doubted in if they couldn't find scar on him after resurrection.......

Seeing is believing afterall.....
did it remain like that for the 40 days afterwards?
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by Kobojunkie: 8:57pm On Jan 23
BikoMERCYme:
✓ Never said that......
Lot more pple around wud have doubted in if they couldn't find scar on him after resurrection.......
Seeing is believing afterall.....
The story only claimed Thomas was.the only one who had to first see the scars, so who are these lots of people you refer to? 🥱🥱

Did Jesus Christ of Israel go around Jerusalem showing off his scars to everyone he met or something, during those 40 days? 🥱🥱
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:08pm On Jan 23
He resurrected as a spirit {1Corinthans 15:44} his human body was taken away by angels as the ultimate sacrifice for sin that is why he kept appearing to his own disciples in different unrecognizable bodies.
What each person needs Jesus used to appear. In the real sense Jesus was raised with a perfect incorruptible spirit body! 1Corinthans 15:42
So if what Thomas needs to see before believing that his beloved friend, brother and master is now alive are the scars Jesus will present it to this loyal friend of his to gain him!🙂
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by BikoMERCYme(f): 9:08pm On Jan 23
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Kobojunkie:
The story only claimed Thomas was.the only one who had to first see the scars, so who are these lots of people you refer to? 🥱🥱

Did Jesus Christ of Israel go around Jerusalem showing off his scars to everyone he met or something, during those 40 days? 🥱🥱
Fact that other weren't mentioned doesn't dispute feeling and seeing it as well......

Not every act was recorded in the bible.......


sonmvayina:
did it remain like that for the 40 days afterwards?
Maybe/maybe.....

Not all act were record.......but fact dat someone saw dat might had as well spread thru the city.......
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by Kobojunkie: 9:12pm On Jan 23
BikoMERCYme:
✓ Fact that other weren't mentioned doesn't dispute feeling and seeing it as well..🤔🥱
✓ Not every act was recorded in the bible.......🥱🥱🥱
✓ Maybe/maybe..... Not all act were record...but fact dat someone saw dat might had as well spread thru the city...
1. Nor does this provide backing for your claim. 🥱🥱

2. Because you feel everything is not recorded, you therefore add whatever you wish between the lines? 🥱🥱

3. Well, you didn't see it, and you never met someone who saw it. And the one who saw it did not, in fact, write to confirm (or deny) what he said. Is seeing still believing? 🥱🥱
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 2:51pm On Sep 23
Max, you said j.man rose with a spiritual body? And he ate with his apostles and got on a boat with them and Thomas put his hands in his side......
Have you ever seen a spirit before? Have you seen somebody's spirit level their body when they die?
Sometimes you just throw words around thinking nobody will notice.. I do pay attention to details.. nothing passes me by.
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:32pm On Sep 23
sonmvayina:
Max, you said j.man rose with a spiritual body? And he ate with his apostles and got on a boat with them and Thomas put his hands in his side......
Have you ever seen a spirit before? Have you seen somebody's spirit level their body when they die?
Sometimes you just throw words around thinking nobody will notice.. I do pay attention to details.. nothing passes me by.
It's only the God of Israel that's sending His messengers (angels) to His worshipers as for any other spirit that's operating in any other part of the world such ones are DEMONS so don't mix things together.
Angels and demons are spirits the difference between the two is that while angels operates in accord with God's will demons does things that's pleasing only to themselves!🥱
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 9:03am On Sep 24
MaxInDHouse:
It's only the God of Israel that's sending His messengers (angels) to His worshipers as for any other spirit that's operating in any other part of the world such ones are DEMONS so don't mix things together.
Angels and demons are spirits the difference between the two is that while angels operates in accord with God's will demons does things that's pleasing only to themselves!🥱
Because spirit have a brain to think shay?

You really don't know anything at all.

Angels and demons are one and the same thing. They only do what God has designed for them to do. When God sends them to kill the first born son of the Egyptian, from our point of view, it is demonic. ..and when he sends them to bring good tidings, they are angles. They all work for God and do his bidding.

There is ONLY one kingdom operating on earth and heaven and the Lord God is it's divine king. All creatures are sovereign to God.
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21am On Sep 24
sonmvayina:
Because spirit have a brain to think shay?
Funny atheist!😁

So intelligent creatures don't have brains shey?

Is this what pastors in churches of Christendom has turned you to simply because you hate them?😁
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 7:23pm On Sep 24
MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!😁

So intelligent creatures don't have brains shey?

Is this what pastors in churches of Christendom has turned you to simply because you hate them?😁
Spirits are body less and therefore brain less. They don't have brain like humans to decipher. They don't have any ego...
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:37pm On Sep 24
sonmvayina:
Spirits are body less and therefore brain less. They don't have brain like humans to decipher. They don't have any ego...
Ọmọ each body part of humans is the physical resemblance of the senses of spirit beings that's why God said "let us make man in our image" {Genesis 1:26} so don't think because they only have spirit bodies they can't think!😁
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 1:28pm On Sep 26
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ each body part of humans is the physical resemblance of the senses of spirit beings that's why God said "let us make man in our image" {Genesis 1:26} so don't think because they only have spirit bodies they can't think!😁
Now we are getting somewhere.
That is why God put the spirit within the physical body so they can think. In Deuteronomy, he said, I place both good and evil, life and death in front of you...they have brain to think and choose, but spirit don't as soon as they step out of the body at death they forget their past life.theyare pure and like God.
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:56pm On Sep 26
sonmvayina:
Now we are getting somewhere.
That is why God put the spirit within the physical body so they can think. In Deuteronomy, he said, I place both good and evil, life and death in front of you...they have brain to think and choose, but spirit don't as soon as they step out of the body at death they forget their past life.theyare pure and like God.
There is no life after death what God promised is a resurrection {Job 14:13-15} so at death no life in form of spirit survives the body what God's word said is the ENERGY (BREATH) sustaining life not a form of life on its own. Ecclesiastes 12:7

So the breath in all creatures having physical bodies is the same! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by gohf: 8:36am On Sep 27
sonmvayina:
I find it interesting that jesus in His resurrected body, still had holes in his hands and side. I would think they would have fully healed over in His resurrected state.
chtistians over to you, what is the illogical explanation?
because the prophecy states they will see him whom they have crucified and weep

Zech.12.10 "Then I will pour out a spirit of grace and prayer on the family of David and on all the people of Jerusalem. They will look on me whom they have pierced and mourn for him as for an only son. They will grieve bitterly for him as for a firstborn son who has died.
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 9:51am On Sep 28
gohf:
because the prophecy states they will see him whom they have crucified and weep

Zech.12.10 "Then I will pour out a spirit of grace and prayer on the family of David and on all the people of Jerusalem. They will look on me whom they have pierced and mourn for him as for an only son. They will grieve bitterly for him as for a firstborn son who has died.
Which prophecy is that?

This is what Zech 12:1, says ,

1The prophecy of the word of the Lord concerning Israel: Says the Lord, Who stretches out the heavens and founds the earth and forms the spirit of man within him:

Then if the read down you get to verse 10. Which says
10 And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplications. And they shall look to Me because of those who have been thrust through [with swords], and they shall mourn over it as one mourns over an only son and shall be in bitterness, therefore, as one is embittered over a firstborn son.



I have told you people several times,
Learn to understand context. It is talking about the siege of Jerusalem.
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 10:00am On Sep 28
MaxInDHouse:
There is no life after death what God promised is a resurrection {Job 14:13-15} so at death no life in form of spirit survives the body what God's word said is the ENERGY (BREATH) sustaining life not a form of life on its own. Ecclesiastes 12:7

So the breath in all creatures having physical bodies is the same! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20
The Ecclesiastes you quoted actually supports my point. Not yours.
The spirit returns to God because it is the same image and likeness as God. And the body as it returns to the ground.
So it has all the attributes you assign to God.
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:21am On Sep 28
sonmvayina:
The Ecclesiastes you quoted actually supports my point. Not yours.
The spirit returns to God because it is the same image and likeness as God. And the body as it returns to the ground.
So it has all the attributes you assign to God.
It simply means the breath of life {Genesis 2:7} not another form of you, that's why the Bible says all creatures have the same spirit because we all have the breath of life in us! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20😁
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by budaatum: 12:44pm On Sep 28
Kobojunkie:
It was all for Thomas?
sonmvayina:
so it was because of Thomas?
BikoMERCYme did not say "it was because of Thomas" ! Her "not only Thomas" meant many others would doubt too.

Biko, I thought the exact same and was looking till I saw you said so. Thanks. My own atheist leaning would make me say the writers added it to make their story more believable because they knew the question would be asked and needed an answer. Even Jesus was written to have known this question would be asked, having "shewed unto them his hands and his side", which made the "disciples glad when they saw the Lord" way back in verse 20, which makes the repetition rhetoric if one accepts the writers, or rather, later editors of the text, used thier eyes and other senses when compiling the text.

I must say that I agree that those "that have not seen, and yet have believed" must indeed be blessed somehow for not looking with their own eyes so they may see with their own lamps of their own bodies.

To wit. Dear Lord God Almighty. if buda decides to not look and see, or worse still, if buda twists what buda sees to be what buda wants to see instead of what is actually presented before the eyes of buda to look at and see, do not bless buda please. Amen.

Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by budaatum: 12:52pm On Sep 28
Kobojunkie:
The story only claimed Thomas was.the only one who had to first see the scars, so who are these lots of people you refer to? 🥱🥱
Not true.

And let me add that one must be aware that the Gospel according to John is traditionally and scholarly considered to be the last of the four canonical gospels to have been written, by which time some would have read the existing gospels and asked that same question just as sonmvayina has found it interesting enough to ask it here.

Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by sonmvayina(op): 8:41am On Sep 30
MaxInDHouse:
It simply means the breath of life {Genesis 2:7} not another form of you, that's why the Bible says all creatures have the same spirit because we all have the breath of life in us! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20😁
you are just in denial. what is so glaring and in front of you, you are not seeing it....

continue deceiving yourself. you will wake up when its your time.
Re: Why Does Jesus Body Still Have The Wounds After Resurrection?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:20pm On Sep 30
sonmvayina:
You will wake up when its your time.
Better!😁
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