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For those hating on US. Would you prefer china as new world power?

Actually, yes, I would prefer China as new world power over USA for the simple fact that China is not insisting that other nations adopt the Chinese political philosophy or religion like USA is doing.

Wouldn't you? And if not, why?

China does not have a colonial mentality. They are have been been mostly peaceful and believe very much in dialogue.

China is always has a win-win relationship, not the exploitation spirit. Any country China deals with, is bound to experience growth and not wars! Mexico, Ethiopia, South Africa, Nigeria and Angola are typical examples.

If we bring the adage about charity beginning from home, look at the Chinese way of life and socialist ideology and compare with American way of life with capitalism.

It is not debatable and any nation will always want to pursue the Chinese dream rather than American.

The real question is, why must there be a world power in the first place. This never ending cycle of wanting to dominate everything and everyone is not particularly healthy nor is it ideal. If US is not world power too, will they collapse?

budaatum:
Actually, yes, I would prefer China as new world power over USA for the simple fact that China is not insisting that other nations adopt the Chinese political philosophy or religion like USA is doing.

Wouldn't you? And if not, why?

And who told you that? They are not doing that because they are not in charge.

Chinese will force and push for their language to be added to all curriculum. Even the brics nation don't even trust one and another. You simply are not informed.

fineboynl:
And who told you that? They are not doing that because they are not in charge.

Chinese will force and push for their language to be added to all curriculum. Even the brics nation don't even trust one and another. You simply are not informed.

I love that I find someone who reasons like me on here.

budaatum:
Actually, yes, I would prefer China as new world power over USA for the simple fact that China is not insisting that other nations adopt the Chinese political philosophy or religion like USA is doing.

Wouldn't you? And if not, why?

That will never happen. Immediately china gets to that point, then they will need hard and soft power to maintain that status. Unfortunately China has little to no checks and balances with their leadership

fineboynl:
And who told you that? They are not doing that because they are not in charge.

So, they are not in charge so they are not doing that?

That's good enough for me. Because by the time they are in charge, you'd likely have learnt from past experience of those who were in charge and did do that not to let China do it to you. Or would you like to argue that China can come to your shores and buy you and put you in chains and take you to their country and make you work for free in the future sometimes because you wouldn't have learnt anything to do to not let them?

And China themself might have learnt from those who were in charge and did do that that it might not be the best and most profitable thing to do.

Scholes007:
That will never happen. Immediately china gets to that point, then they will need hard and soft power to maintain that status. Unfortunately China has little to no checks and balances with their leadership

Really? Ordinary make Nigeria a Muslim country and Nigerians are checking and balancing, so why wouldn't we check and balance China if they try to make you Chinese?

I have full faith and trust in you checking and balancing China because this is not 1851 and because you are no mumu.

This is not a joke?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckglwnrx437o

merrymike47:
I love that I find someone who reasons like me on here.

they will not directly force you to adopt the language but will make unfavorable policies for those that refuse. Go and study the japan expansion or any Asia expansion at that

budaatum:
Really? Ordinary make Nigeria a Muslim country and Nigerians are checking and balancing, so why wouldn't we check and balance China if they try to make you Chinese?

I have full faith and trust in you checking and balancing China because this is not 1851 and because you are no mumu.

These things are beyond sentiments. China do not need to make you Chinese to influence your leadership. I understand your defunct dislike to anything USA , but the reality is what we are talking about.
The truth is,if China achieve hegemony to the current status of USA, then they will need to enforce their will which maybe worse than the current USA influence.

fineboynl:
they will bot directly force you to adopt the language but will make unfavorable policies for those that refuse. Go and study the japan expansion or any Asia expansion at that

yes, well said. Power is intoxicating. And intoxication is a weakness by itself.

budaatum:
Actually, yes, I would prefer China as new world power over USA for the simple fact that China is not insisting that other nations adopt the Chinese political philosophy or religion like USA is doing.

Wouldn't you? And if not, why?

is this supported by what is happening with Tibetans and Uighurs, who were annexed/vcolonised by China

HacheNoire:
China does not have a colonial mentality. They are have been been mostly peaceful and believe very much in dialogue.

China is always has a win-win relationship, not the exploitation spirit. Any country China deals with, is bound to experience growth and not wars! Mexico, Ethiopia, South Africa, Nigeria and Angola are typical examples.

If we bring the adage about charity beginning from home, look at the Chinese way of life and socialist ideology and compare with American way of life with capitalism.

It is not debatable and any nation will always want to pursue the Chinese dream rather than American.

When you are powerless, you disguise your cruelty with peaceful posturing until you become powerful.

Is this not applicable in all human endeavours for wise people who want to rise up and possibly overtake the current dons

Meanwhile, why are Nigerians and blacks flooding Chinese embassies for japa visas as opposed to Western countries, led by America?
Do you think it has to do with worse Chinese racism against blacks, as seen on Covid era videos?

anonimi:
When you are powerless, you disguise your cruelty with peaceful posturing until you become powerful.

Is this not applicable in all human endeavours for wise people who want to rise up and possibly overtake the current dons

Meanwhile, why are Nigerians and blacks flooding Chinese embassies for japa visas as opposed to Western countries, led by America?
Do you think it has to do with worse Chinese racism against blacks, as seen on Covid era videos?

. Chinese have stricter law for immigration than anywhere else western word. There are no job in china. People running there are miss informed or they have other place for drugs or fraud.


Chinese are open to the rest of the world similar to do business for mini importers. You cant compare that to America. What will mini importers import from america?

They have no job for foreigners and beside they have the world cheapest labor. You cant import things into china they are heavily regulated. But they can export everywhere else

budaatum:
Actually, yes, I would prefer China as new world power over USA for the simple fact that China is not insisting that other nations adopt the Chinese political philosophy or religion like USA is doing.

Wouldn't you? And if not, why?

What is the Chinese political philosophy?

anonimi:
is this supported by what is happening with Tibetans and Uighurs, who were annexed/vcolonised by China

Please ask him oooooo.

They hate the USA because of its stand against Islamic terrorists and support for Christians who are persecuted, especially, by muslims.

Scholes007:
The truth is,if China achieve hegemony to the current status of USA, then they will need to enforce their will which maybe worse than the current USA influence.

You see that your "maybe"? You can't imagine how much it makes me respect you, because maybe not.

China is growing. They currently manufacture more than about the next six top manufacturing countries combined. So, we may be about to find out if they will enforce their will or not. But personally, I want Nigeria to be the top world superpower, because I don't we will impose our will on any country.

anonimi:
is this supported by what is happening with Tibetans and Uighurs, who were annexed/vcolonised by China

Tibet and Ughur land is arguably historically in China. Even if they regain Taiwan, they wouldn't be as bad as some who insist their neighbouring countries must do as they are told.

Elusive001:
What is the Chinese political philosophy?

Don't you know how to Google?

Scholes007:
These things are beyond sentiments. China do not need to make you Chinese to influence your leadership.

China do not need to be top superpower to influence your leadership neither. Canada's Carney and UK's Starmer just traveled there to be influenced. And I hear even USA's dump will be going there soon too. Those who elected those leaders however, did not go with their leadership to China, and they might not be so easily influenced, is what you are failing to consider.

Think of it this way. Imagine Nigeria has a leader who is influenced by China but most Nigerians reason anti-China like you do than like I do, and then Nigeria has an election. Would my Chinese influenced leader be the leader of Nigeria, or your non-Chinese influenced leader?

Scholes007:
I understand your defunct dislike to anything USA...

On this! I don't understand how you can "understand your defunct dislike to anything USA".

Defunct itself means, "no longer existing or functioning". So are you saying you understand my no longer existing or functioning dislike to anything USA because you now assume I like everything about USA?

Please know and understand that there are things that I do still dislike about USA that are not defunct at all, and top of that list is dump, whom I so still dislike you'd note I don't even write his name. And there are many many things I do still like about USA like their elections every 4 years and my darling Denzel W.

I'm explaining this to you because it bothers me a little that you would understand a dislike that is defunct according to you, and that never even existed in the first place, because it's like a lense through which you would read what I say that will distort your understanding.

fineboynl:
For those hating on US. Would you prefer china as new world power?

NO.
RUSSIA IS WICKED.
CHINA IS A SCAVENGER.

@OP, extend the conversation with these questions;

Since the US has pulled out of several international organizations has China opted to fill in their shoes?
What’s China humanitarian contribution?
What’s their policy on human trafficking? Wars? Human rights?
I’ve as this question times over… who is the most successful black man in China?
Even Saudi has a more cosmopolitan outlook than China.

We need to be careful what we wish for.

fineboynl:
For those hating on US. Would you prefer china as new world power?

there shouldn't be anything called world power all nations are equal

NO.
THE HIERARCHY IS
UK
U.S
UFN.
RUSSIA IS VERY WICKED. SEE THE DEVASTATION IN UKRAINE.
CHINA IS A SCAVENGER.

Watcharena:
there shouldn't be anything called world power all nations are equal

if there is no dominant power there will be problem. Anyone can misbehave

fineboynl:
if there is no dominant power there will be problem. Anyone can misbehave

then what is the work of UN

budaatum:
You see that your "maybe"? You can't imagine how much it makes me respect you, because maybe not.

China is growing. They currently manufacture more than about the next six top manufacturing countries combined. So, we may be about to find out if they will enforce their will or not. But personally, I want Nigeria to be the top world superpower, because I don't we will impose our will on any country.

China's Industrial prowess is without doubt unquestionably. But their trade practices has been questionable. Countries has to protect its market because of these practices. Without the western rules based order as lead by the USA, china wouldn't achieve those success.
Remember there has been dispute within the WTO because of these practices like dumping and subsidization which in turn affects other countries industrial capacity.
I understand your appreciation for the quick development of china but her development should not be used to destroy others.

budaatum:
China do not need to be top superpower to influence your leadership neither. Canada's Carney and UK's Starmer just traveled there to be influenced. And I hear even USA's dump will be going there soon too. Those who elected those leaders however, did not go with their leadership to China, and they might not be so easily influenced, is what you are failing to consider.

Think of it this way. Imagine Nigeria has a leader who is influenced by China but most Nigerians reason anti-China like you do than like I do, and then Nigeria has an election. Would my Chinese influenced leader be the leader of Nigeria, or your non-Chinese influenced leader?

Geo politics is a very complex discussion and it will be very unwise to over simplify these things. China is a very huge market hence every nation will want a deal. Canada can make deals with China but she will be very careful not make deals that will after it's relationship with the USA. Most of these current deals are just posturing by some western nations to challenge some of Donald Trump's policies. But in the grand scheme of things, there is a new world order that the US wants to be part of. I would be glad if we discussed more on geo politics