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Why isn't there a mobile OS that is fully AI powered and the ai capable of using our apps for us autonomously? Like think for a sec if that was possible, the AI being the second user able to do stuffs humans can with an app, the possibilities are endless. I think it would be possible with android if you fork out the AOSP and build an AI agentic layer on top of it but it'll require OS level permissions to be able to simulate touch virtually for control. What do you guys think? Any opinions or takes on how to tackle this? Drop it here

Who's familiar with android open source project? AOSP? or working with OS like Linux? I think this could be a cool project. The potential upside is literally huge, think 8 billion + smart devices

Would you trust such a phone with your contacts, bank, location, camera?

davidaluu:
Why isn't there a mobile OS that is fully AI powered and the ai capable of using our apps for us autonomously? Like think for a sec if that was possible, the AI being the second user able to do stuffs humans can with an app, the possibilities are endless. I think it would be possible with android if you fork out the AOSP and build an AI agentic layer on top of it but it'll require OS level permissions to be able to simulate touch virtually for control. What do you guys think? Any opinions or takes on how to tackle this? Drop it here

You will have to give it all your data which is a major concern in data privacy. AI companies will know everything about you . It is a good idea but not ethical in some ways.

Of course you would eventually, that's how new technologies start. They'd be guardrails and confirmation before any action is finalized. AI agents already exist and multi billion dollar companies are started trusting and integrating them into their workflow.

BelloP:
Would you trust such a phone with your contacts, bank, location, camera?

What if it ran on device locally instead? Data on the phone stays private. There's a saying that once data is uploaded to the cloud, it can be compromised that's why some corps like Apple use on device processing

Alphabyte3:
You will have to give it all your data which is a major concern in data privacy. AI companies will know everything about you . It is a good idea but not ethical in some ways.

A piece of advice. Don't think too much about the downside like privacy or trust. No one wanted to sleep in other people's home then Airbnb came along same with Uber when you didn't trust strangers for a ride. I'm not saying this aren't valid concerns but think about how the upside outweighs the cons

davidaluu:
What if it ran on device locally instead? Data on the phone stays private. There's a saying that once data is uploaded to the cloud, it can be compromised that's why some corps like Apple use on device processing

U will need tailscale or Headscale reliable VPN to run it actively to avoid hacks.

Hosting isn't the problem, building an agentic layer on top of AOSP is. It's basically going to be raw C++ for OS level permissions. That's the language I'm currently learning

Alphabyte3:
U will need tailscale or Headscale reliable VPN to run it actively to avoid hacks.

davidaluu:
Hosting isn't the problem, building an agentic layer on top of AOSP is. It's basically going to be raw C++ for OS level permissions. That's the language I'm currently learning

Check out my post it a short guide about os design using various architectures and material design.

https://www.nairaland.com/7985079/creating-operating-systems-using-material

You will have to search Google about awesome mobile operating system GitHub. In operating system the kernel and apps might be built with different languages.



https://www.google.com/search?q=awesome+operating+system+GitHub

davidaluu:
Hosting isn't the problem, building an agentic layer on top of AOSP is. It's basically going to be raw C++ for OS level permissions. That's the language I'm currently learning

To use android C++ call for agentic android studio requires NDK but you know MCP and Google ADK kit does that without any internal inbuilt API calls that can be run on apps or browsers . Google Gemini will be a first class AGI in the future

Hopefully would fine tune a custom model for this although maybe Claude would work well for an MVP

Alphabyte3:
To use android C++ call for agentic android studio requires NDK but you know MCP and Google ADK kit does that without any internal inbuilt API calls that can be run on apps or browsers . Google Gemini will be a first class AGI in the future

davidaluu:
Hopefully would fine tune a custom model for this although maybe Claude would work well for an MVP

A better and easier alternative.

Checkout driodrun, it might be the solution you need instead of writing a fresh Os which I think you cannot do.

https://github.com/droidrun/droidrun

It will be used for Crazy automations, Spam... Android will never allow that neither will iOS

They would. Yes they'd be wary cause it's new technologies but it'll be eventually adopted. Think about it, the time saver this could be.

gistray:
It will be used for Crazy automations, Spam... Android will never allow that neither will iOS

davidaluu:
They would. Yes they'd be wary cause it's new technologies but it'll be eventually adopted. Think about it, the time saver this could be.

What time saver?
Companies needs real users to use their phone and play with their apps so they can show them Ads or sell something to them not AIs.

That's for companies not users. Haven't you thought of something maybe AI does something for you in the background on your phone instead of you doing it?

gistray:
What time saver?
Companies needs real users to use their phone and play with their apps so they can show them Ads or sell something to them not AIs.

davidaluu:
That's for companies not users. Haven't you thought of something maybe AI does something for you in the background on your phone instead of you doing it?

Then you'll have to entrust all your data to the AI. If anyone gets a hold of that ai all your account will be compromised.


Besides they'll tools already like N8 doing this.... You can also build your own Macros to do some automations

You only trust it temporarily for a task and there's no tool that does this the way I described, only automation tools yes but not for native mobile that integrates with the OS directly

gistray:
Then you'll have to entrust all your data to the AI. If anyone gets a hold of that ai all your account will be compromised.


Besides they'll tools already like N8 doing this.... You can also build your own Macros to do some automations

davidaluu:
You only trust it temporarily for a task and there's no tool that does this the way I described, only automation tools yes but not for native mobile that integrates with the OS directly

How about you build one with as a demo.

Using Android custom ROM

That's what I'm working on now. Trying to get an android OS version and scrap it and inject an agentic layer on top of the OS

gistray:
How about you build one with as a demo.

Using Android custom ROM

davidaluu:
That's what I'm working on now. Trying to get an android OS version and scrap it and inject an agentic layer on top of the OS

Your are seeing the “havoc” openclaw/moltbot is doing now right?

I mean those have millions of agents and I'm not sure about their guardrails so. But it's still a new technology. It would get better eventually.

airsaylongcome:
Your are seeing the “havoc” openclaw/moltbot is doing now right?

I'm pretty sure you don't know what a monad is ?? The only thing you grasp about AI is from all those tweets shilling AI slop by brogrammers .

What I described isn't AI slop. It integrates to the phone OS. It's a layer not a wrapper. How can you even compare the two?

Kaczynski:
I'm pretty sure you don't know what a monad is ?? The only thing you grasp about AI is from all those tweets shilling AI slop by brogrammers .

So nice and helpful post

davidaluu:
That's for companies not users. Haven't you thought of something maybe AI does something for you in the background on your phone instead of you doing it?

And when it hallucinates and causes a disaster?

They are safeguards and confirmation put in place to ensure it doesn't. There's still a human. in the loop system built into it.

untoldtruth:
And when it hallucinates and causes a disaster?

davidaluu:
Who's familiar with android open source project? AOSP? or working with OS like Linux? I think this could be a cool project. The potential upside is literally huge, think 8 billion + smart devices

https://github.com/secondly-com/OpenPhone

You’re welcome

davidaluu:
Why isn't there a mobile OS that is fully AI powered and the ai capable of using our apps for us autonomously? Like think for a sec if that was possible, the AI being the second user able to do stuffs humans can with an app, the possibilities are endless. I think it would be possible with android if you fork out the AOSP and build an AI agentic layer on top of it but it'll require OS level permissions to be able to simulate touch virtually for control. What do you guys think? Any opinions or takes on how to tackle this? Drop it here

Apple is building a foldable phone it will have Apple intelligence but it won't be fully operated by agents. Huawei was one of the first Chinese companies to perfect such phone years ago.