₦airaland Forum

lawani:
So if people in Aba can pay it then other people can pay it as well and what they pay in Aba is still a fraction of what they pay in western countries. Therefore people are ready to pay, it is investors that are backing off. We pay for GSM so we can pay for power

Be fair lawani. Wages in Nigeria is a fraction of what is paid in western world too.

Nigeria's minimum wage is ₦70000 a month, which is £36.82 a month. Minimum wage in London is £14.80 an hour. You do the maths.

lawani:
People will protest in other places too and still pay. People disconnect to save money everywhere in the world. I think the reason companies are afraid to invest is that they think off-grid solar will become more popular and it may therefore be difficult for them to recoup their investment but that fear may be unfounded because if you consider the cost and lifespan of batteries then solar too is expensive

The reason companies don't invest is, we are too poor for them to charge to recoup their investment. And the little they might invest, we chase them away with cutlass when they come to collect it.

Read Electric Tomatoes. You might see my point.
https://www.nairaland.com/5213303/nigeria-africas-money-losing-machine-forbes/2#78844851

nairalanda1:
I hate making this argument, but the truth is, people like being paid. If companies and individuals are not making enough money to provide services and get paid , then issues would start.

You may "hate making this argument" but it is a very true and valid argument to make.

How the füq is a person meant to survive on £36.82 a month anywhere in this global world?

budaatum:
Lawlessness stops them. You know what would happen if nepa go cut light for barracks or ministry.

Below is an example.

Kaduna Electric disconnects Governor Sani’s office over N2.9bn Electricity Debt
https://metrodailyng.com/kaduna-electric-disconnects-governor-sanis-office-over-n2-9bn-electricity-debt/

Then

Kaduna State Shut Down Electric Company For Disconnecting Govt Houses Over N2.9bn Debt
https://thewhistler.ng/kaduna-state-shut-down-electric-company-for-disconnecting-govt-houses-over-n2-9bn-debt/


Do you seriously think I could possibly write all that without reading it like 10 times?

If you read my comments you'd stop saying "I", and instead say "we".

Disco is not playing their part, so we don't play ours. We are not mumu who play our part with discos who don't play their part.

Were you aware that same Kaduna Electric was owning over ₦600m in tax to the state? The simple solution provide prepaid meters (the responsibility of DisCos) and stop looking for customers to extort with your dubious estimated bills. In as much as you don't provide these meters then OYO.

phemmie06:
Our leaders are shameless

"Our" who ?

Jakarta:
Were you aware that same Kaduna Electric was owning over ₦600m in tax to the state? The simple solution provide prepaid meters (the responsibility of DisCos) and stop looking for customers to extort with your dubious estimated bills. In as much as you don't provide these meters then OYO.

And how is disco going to find "₦600m in tax to the state" when we are all doing OYO that is the consequence of their ineptitude of not providing prepaid meters? Is it not by "looking for customers to extort with your dubious estimated bills"?

And if they are "looking for customers to extort with your dubious estimated bills" why will we not OYO?

Actually, I think it's my fault that you don't get it, so let me write it in bold for you to read.

In as much as you don't provide these meters then OYO!

budaatum:
In as much as you don't provide these meters then OYO!

Simple read it loud so it gets into your head. In as much they (Discos) don't provide these meters, and other equipments (which is their responsibility) then OYO. Manage what you see be it beating during disconnection, hanging after disconnection, etc OYO is their name.

Jakarta:
Simple read it loud so it gets into your head. In as much they (Discos) don't provide these meters, and other equipments (which is their responsibility) then OYO. Manage what you see be it beating during disconnection, hanging after disconnection, etc OYO is their name.

You seem to be having some serious difficulty understanding that I agree with you that if disco cheat you by asking you to buy meter, you will steal from them by illegally connecting wire to steal their electricity.

So I am going to now ignore you until you show you understand.

Good day Jakarta.

budaatum:
You seem to be having some serious difficulty understanding that I agree with you that if disco cheat you by asking you to buy meter, you will steal from them by illegally connecting wire to steal their electricity.

So I am going to now ignore you until you show you understand.

Good day Jakarta.

Lol!! you are the one not getting it, and it is clearly obvious now. Go through all my comments I've always mentioned discos performing their duties, which provision of meters is part of these duties. If you say don't have money to perform these responsibilities of yours, then manage what you see.
Such a waste of time and effort on my part beating a dead horse.

Jakarta:
If you say don't have money to perform these responsibilities of yours, then manage what you see.

And I agree with you.

Or are disco not managing what they see?

budaatum:
And I agree with you.

Or are disco not managing what they see?

They should stop complaining of people not paying cost reflective tarrifs, when they themselves are not performing their duties simple as that.

Jakarta:
They should stop complaining of people not paying cost reflective tarrifs, when they themselves are not performing their duties simple as that.

Sorry, but I don't care if disco complain for whatever reason they want to complain.

If they want me to care about their complaining, they should first care about my own complaining by performing their so called duty. But as it is, and as far as I am concerned, they can cry blood if they want, I did not send them and I'm not even looking their side.

Please know that "performing their duty" to me is providing me with uninterrupted electricity 24-7-30, and not this band crap! I need light always, and I am willing to pay if they deliver.

budaatum:
Sorry, but I don't care if disco complain for whatever reason they want to complain.

If they want me to care about their complaining, they should first care about my own complaining by performing their so called duty. But as it is, and as far as I am concerned, they can cry blood if they want, I did not send them and I'm not even looking their side.

Please know that "performing their duty" to me is providing me with uninterrupted electricity 24-7-30, and not this band crap! I need light always, and I am willing to pay if they deliver.

Then what is the essence of these epistles all this while? Perform your duties of providing me the service and I will reciprocate the gesture by paying for it shikena.

Lol!! since according to you a business duty is protecting their capital and making profits, why should they care about your complains? They are already performing their duty, by way of you paying for darkness. Guy you funny.

Jakarta:
Lol!! since according to you a business duty is protecting their capital and making profits, why should they care about your complains?

Jakarta, disco does not care about my complaint as it is! I can complain until the cows come home and they still wouldn't care about my complaint. So why are you now asking me "why should they care about your complains" when I know they don't care about my complaint already?

It is my own opinion that they are in the business of protecting their capital and making profits, and I do believe they are achieving that goal, because if they were not achieving that goal, they might indeed care about my complaint. But they obviously do not care about my complaint, so I too don't care about their complaint.

Do know that a business' duty to a customer may be very different to the duty a customer expects from a company. I may think a company has a duty to deliver a service to me, but the company itself might see its duty as stealing from me.

budaatum:
Jakarta, disco does not care about my complaint as it is! I can complain until the cows come home and they still wouldn't care about my complaint. So why are you now asking me "why should they care about your complains" when I know they don't care about my complaint already?

It is my own opinion that they are in the business of protecting their capital and making profits, and I do believe they are achieving that goal, because if they were not achieving that goal, they might indeed care about my complaint. But they obviously do not care about my complaint, so I too don't care about their complaint.

Do know that a business' duty to a customer may be very different to the duty a customer expects from a company. I may think a company has a duty to deliver a service to me, but the company itself might see its duty as stealing from me.

Lost cause I'm tired of Elim5 to you, good night.

budaatum:
Be fair lawani. Wages in Nigeria is a fraction of what is paid in western world too.

Nigeria's minimum wage is ₦70000 a month, which is £36.82 a month. Minimum wage in London is £14.80 an hour. You do the maths.

Cost of power too is a fraction, cost of beer is a fraction and etc

lawani:
Cost of power too is a fraction, cost of beer is a fraction and etc

That does not mean we should accept being a fraction, because we are not fractions.

Jakarta:
Lost cause I'm tired of Elim5 to you, good night.

Don't "Elim5" to me please. Your "Elim5" is irrelevant and inconsequential to me and disco!

Good night.

budaatum:
That does not mean we should accept being a fraction, because we are not fractions.

It is the high income world that needs to come down and not us

lawani:
It is the high income world that needs to come down and not us

Lawani! What have I done to make you hate me so much that I should take a pay cut and come down and earn £36.82 a month, when I want to help you fight Nigeria to pay you more?

You do understand that £36.82 is like 2½ hours minimum wage where I am, right? Like the price of a meal in a average standard restaurant?

budaatum:
Lawani! What have I done to make you hate me so much that I should take a pay cut and come down and earn £36.82 a month, when I want to help you fight Nigeria to pay you more?

You do understand that £36.82 is like 2½ hours minimum wage where I am, right? Like the price of a meal in a average standard restaurant?

Rent is what is driving wages up in the high income world if your rent is same as Ibadan rent then nobody will pay you double Ibadan wages. On average

lawani:
Rent is what is driving wages up in the high income world if your rent is same as Ibadan rent then nobody will pay you double Ibadan wages. On average

Ehn now, but land where I live is not cheap like Ibadan land na, wetin make I do.

But do you not know that there are some people living in Ibadan earning London wages?

budaatum:
Ehn now, but land where I live is not cheap like Ibadan land na, wetin make I do.

But do you not know that there are some people living in Ibadan earning London wages?

Remote workers are insignificant in the mix. Land will have to be made cheap by force. That is the only way forward

lawani:
Land will have to be made cheap by force. That is the only way forward

Made Ibadan land to be cheap is your way forward instead of increasing your pay?

The wind might not quite be behind that force, if you ask me lawani.

budaatum:
Made Ibadan land to be cheap is your way forward instead of increasing your pay?

The wind might not quite be behind that force, if you ask me lawani.

The way forward is to restructure the real estate sector in high income countries in particular and in highbrow areas in general so that wages can even up