₦airaland Forum

Judolisco:
OK are we really ready for this...I think Nigeria still has the best voting system in Africa.... Even if u want real time transmission, what's the guarantee that it won't be influenced by vote buying and result manipulation.... What serious political parties should do is hire competent party agents across all polling units.... D vote buying usually starts from d party agents that's why i said competent

Ogam immediately they finish the voting there, the inec officer should snap and upload. Yes agents are also very important but is that too much to request from inec?

chicfarmer:
This man is not wise. So that form EC8A every agent and presiding officer will fill and sign can you not immediately upload it? What has electronic voting got to do with this?

What una want is the one they will take to the so called collation center, tear it and fill another one with fictitious figures. You think you're talking to idiots abi. No worry, very soon Nigerians go dey give una better beating for street.

He’s so dumb. How did he become a commissioner?

HacheNoire:
Everything possible and legitimate should be done so as to avoid court cases when His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR) is re-elected.

For those talking about rigging? Why will His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR) rig when he does not have opposition? Oh! You classify Peter and Atiku as opposition? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That should be the more reason he should put in place far reaching electoral reforms, support e- transmission of elections results etc so that when he wins, it will be without challenge

Pakute:
https://leadership.ng/inec-ex-commissioner-faults-calls-for-real-time-transmission-of-election-results/

Electronic voting is possible if INEC is committed to it.

Pakute:
https://leadership.ng/inec-ex-commissioner-faults-calls-for-real-time-transmission-of-election-results/

This *im*Becile could not even conceal his MUMU by remaining silent?! Who talked of electronic voting?! Sane people are insisting on transmitting polling Booth RESULTS in real time for now. MUMUMAN !!

chicfarmer:
This man is not wise. So that form EC8A every agent and presiding officer will fill and sign can you not immediately upload it? What has electronic voting got to do with this?

What una want is the one they will take to the so called collation center, tear it and fill another one with fictitious figures. You think you're talking to idiots abi. No worry, very soon Nigerians go dey give una better beating for street.

The form Ec8A is important because every agent gets a certified true copy before the polling unit is closed so even if they change results your party already have a copy of what actually transpired at the polling unit .

The problem with you opposition parties is laziness, LP spent more money on lawyers than what was budgeted for PU agents , so you ended up not having enough agents on ground to cover results .

This is why serious parties such as apc and pdp have situation report rooms to track each agent and get results real time .

Stop waiting for inec to spoonfeed you.

chicfarmer:
This man is not wise. So that form EC8A every agent and presiding officer will fill and sign can you not immediately upload it? What has electronic voting got to do with this?

What una want is the one they will take to the so called collation center, tear it and fill another one with fictitious figures. You think you're talking to idiots abi. No worry, very soon Nigerians go dey give una better beating for street.

You appear to be the unwise one.

If not, you'll realize they've been doing that already.

Mahmoud Yakubu is now an ambassador after eating with his ten fingers and then toes on our Inec in delivering his paymasters as elected officials, joash Amupitan also want to continue from where he stopped so he could get something big after doing the needful, so he needs an enabling environment such as discretion on the choice of transmission of results.
This one has failed before he even started, it is well.

WhizdomXX:
Ogam immediately they finish the voting there, the inec officer should snap and upload. Yes agents are also very important but is that too much to request from inec?

that's what they do na.... What people are requesting is real time computation of results right from the polling units... To me that's even more dangerous and easy to manipulate...

chicfarmer:
This man is not wise. So that form EC8A every agent and presiding officer will fill and sign can you not immediately upload it? What has electronic voting got to do with this?

What una want is the one they will take to the so called collation center, tear it and fill another one with fictitious figures. You think you're talking to idiots abi. No worry, very soon Nigerians go dey give una better beating for street.

Person wey be ex.... wetin that one know. I say thunder fire enemies of this country called Nigeria. Justifying nonsense up and down. No wondernhe is a ex...

These are the people leading, and they are saying we are far away from it. Hmmmm. But we have the brains who van do it. They are far away, not the whole Nigerians. It means they simply don't have the brain to do it. The problem comes because they have refused to leave the scene for those who van do it. They can't do it.

Judolisco:
that's what they do na.... What people are requesting is real time computation of results right from the polling units... To me that's even more dangerous and easy to manipulate...

No it's what I said that people are requesting for. If you see my ward, till today only 6 polling units in the full ward uploaded their results.
Rivers State uploaded results collation still show Obi won the State, against the inec announced results.
I did an analysis of 3 local government results in the 2023 election from the Inec portal and saw only 25% of polling unit results were uploaded.

chicfarmer:
This man is not wise. So that form EC8A every agent and presiding officer will fill and sign can you not immediately upload it? What has electronic voting got to do with this?

What una want is the one they will take to the so called collation center, tear it and fill another one with fictitious figures. You think you're talking to idiots abi. No worry, very soon Nigerians go dey give una better beating for street.

You are the one not wise. He said the truth. Now let me ask you, can results really be transmitted electronically all around Nigeria even in very deep rural areas?
Most of you just comment without thinking because you are privileged to be in an environment were you have steady access to internet. When you leave your comfort zone and go deep into northern Nigeria then you will understand why the bulk votes always comes from there.

I write you in peace yor
No disrespect

chicfarmer:
This man is not wise. So that form EC8A every agent and presiding officer will fill and sign can you not immediately upload it? What has electronic voting got to do with this?

What una want is the one they will take to the so called collation center, tear it and fill another one with fictitious figures. You think you're talking to idiots abi. No worry, very soon Nigerians go dey give una better beating for street.

He wants the rigging to continue.

WhizdomXX:
No it's what I said that people are requesting for. If you see my ward, till today only 6 polling units in the full ward uploaded their results.
Rivers State uploaded results collation still show Obi won the State, against the inec announced results.
I did an analysis of 3 local government results in the 2023 election from the Inec portal and saw only 25% of polling unit results were uploaded.

Ok even if we go by uploading the ec8 forms immediately the result has been counted in d polling units, that doesn't still eliminate the issue I raised on vote buying, the last election in anambra people collected malt and 500 naira... Party agents are waiting to feed their family, they are the first to collect money in every election... So what will that change

Election rigging stems from the "Abuja controls all" type of politics.

NIGERIA MUST FACE THE TRUTH: WE ARE NOT ONE PEOPLE
A SOUTHERN STRATEGIC CONCLUSION
By Kio Amachree, Political Scientist

I have a Yoruba mother from Shagamu.
My father is from Buguma, in Kalabari land.

I have Yoruba cousins.
I have Igbo cousins.
I have Kalabari cousins.

I am a Nigerian.
And I am proud to be one.

I am a Christian.
I am liberal-conservative.
I am educated, well spoken, internationally exposed.
I have lived abroad for decades.
I understand nations, identity, culture, and human behavior.

And today, after years of denying reality, I have reached a conclusion that many Southerners are afraid to say out loud.

Nigeria is not one people.
Nigeria has never been one people.

From the Atlantic coast of the South-South, to the forests of the East, to the inner heartland of Yoruba land, we share something powerful.

We look alike.
We mix easily abroad.
We speak English.
We intermarry.
We share similar values.
We communicate naturally.
We understand each other’s worldview.

Whether you are Yoruba, Igbo, Ijaw, Kalabari, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Efik, Ibibio, Edo, or any other southern group, you can travel across the South and still feel at home.

Yes, we have differences.
But we are culturally compatible.

That is what makes a nation.

But when I go to the North, I do not feel Nigerian.

I feel like an outsider.

The tone is different.
The culture is different.
The structure is different.
The values are different.
The language is different.

Most of them do not speak English fluently.
Their social code is not the Nigerian code I grew up with.
Their worldview is shaped by a different civilization entirely.

They are closer in culture to Chad, Niger, and parts of the Arab world than they are to the Southern Nigerian identity.

And we must stop lying to ourselves about it.

For too long, Southerners have pretended.
We have repeated slogans.
We have used emotional propaganda.
We have forced ourselves to believe the fantasy of “One Nigeria.”

But this union was never natural.
It was engineered.

It was designed by the British.
It was forced together by colonial strategy.

And it has been catastrophic.

The South funds Nigeria.
The South drives Nigeria.
The South produces Nigeria’s wealth.
The South builds Nigeria’s international reputation.

Yet the South is treated with contempt.
Insulted.
Threatened.
Bullied.
And constantly blamed.

We are expected to carry the burden of a region that refuses to modernize, refuses to integrate, refuses to adapt, and refuses to respect those who feed the federation.

And then we are told we must remain silent for “unity.”

What kind of unity is that?

This is not unity.
This is exploitation.

The North has deep internal problems.
Security problems.
Extremism problems.
Banditry problems.
Educational problems.
Economic problems.

But instead of solving them, the political culture has become one of entitlement.
A belief that Nigeria belongs to them.
A belief that power is their birthright.

And I am tired of it.

I do not believe the North respects the South.
I do not believe the North will ever be a benefit to the South.
And I do not believe this forced marriage can survive forever.

Let us be honest.

I cannot marry their daughters.
Their culture is not mine.
Their religious structure is not mine.
Their values are not mine.

So why should we keep pretending?

This is not racism.
This is realism.

This is not hatred.
This is survival.

It is common sense.

The South must begin to openly revisit the Nigerian union.
Not with violence.
Not with insults.
But with seriousness.
With strategy.
With cold, professional political logic.

Let the North go its way.
Let it practice its religion freely.
Let it speak its language.
Let it develop its own resources.
Let it drill its own oil.
Let it solve its own security issues.

And let the South finally breathe.

Let the South smile again.

Because the insults, threats, backwardness, and endless political blackmail from the North has drained the spirit of the Southern Nigerian identity.

Mistakes were made in 1960.
Southern independence leaders capitulated to British colonial pressure.
They accepted a union that should have been renegotiated from the beginning.

That decision has cost generations of Southerners their peace, their security, their wealth, and their dignity.

We must correct that mistake.

As a political scientist, and as a patriot, I have reached my final conclusion:

Nigeria cannot continue like this.

The South must make a strategic decision.
A peaceful decision.
A historic decision.

The North should go its own way.

And the South should finally build the prosperous, modern, educated, globally respected nation it was always meant to be.

Written by
Kio Amachree
Political Scientist
Stockholm, Sweden

#Nigeria #SouthernNigeria #PoliticalAnalysis #OneNigeriaMyth #NationalIdentity #Restructuring #SelfDetermination #NigerDelta #Yoruba #Igbo #Kalabari #Ijaw #Edo #Itsekiri #Urhobo #Efik #Ibibio #RiversState #Buguma #Shagamu #AfricanPolitics #PostColonialAfrica #BritishColonialLegacy #SecurityCrisis #NationalQuestion #NewNigeria #TruthAndReality #KioAmachree #StockholmWriter #AfricanStrategist

Judolisco:
Ok even if we go by uploading the ec8 forms immediately the result has been counted in d polling units, that doesn't still eliminate the issue I raised on vote buying, the last election in anambra people collected malt and 500 naira... Party agents are waiting to feed their family, they are the first to collect money in every election... So what will that change

Vote buying does not change the votes already voted. We can decide to reject vote buying personally but we will not be there if our votes are changed at the ward collation centers.

See your life, always having excuses for failure. Why didn't you mention the advantages?na the little disadvantage you are just hyping. It's people like you that is taking the country backwards.

Putindbutt:
Election losers refused to understand that manual voting and coalition is still in the law. As a matter of fact, it's a vital component of our electoral law and it has not been expunged.

Even in the US where electronic voting is being practiced, it is still a controversial issue. In 2016, Trump defeated Hilary Clinton but the Democrats were alleging "foreign interference"/ hacking of election results.They blamed Russia.

In 2020, Trump lost to Biden and Trump was accusing Democrats of alteration of results. Till today, Trump still believes the election was rigged. And we saw how he alluded to it once again when he put up a video depicting Obama and his wife as Apes. At the background, he was insinuating that voting machines were tampered with.

In South Africa, their last Presidential election had a bit of glitches.

Banks and Telecoms do experience technical glitches which affect mobile operations.

discusant:
Election rigging stems from the "Abuja controls all" type of politics.

NIGERIA MUST FACE THE TRUTH: WE ARE NOT ONE PEOPLE
A SOUTHERN STRATEGIC CONCLUSION
By Kio Amachree, Political Scientist

I have a Yoruba mother from Shagamu.
My father is from Buguma, in Kalabari land.

I have Yoruba cousins.
I have Igbo cousins.
I have Kalabari cousins.

I am a Nigerian.
And I am proud to be one.

I am a Christian.
I am liberal-conservative.
I am educated, well spoken, internationally exposed.
I have lived abroad for decades.
I understand nations, identity, culture, and human behavior.

And today, after years of denying reality, I have reached a conclusion that many Southerners are afraid to say out loud.

Nigeria is not one people.
Nigeria has never been one people.

From the Atlantic coast of the South-South, to the forests of the East, to the inner heartland of Yoruba land, we share something powerful.

We look alike.
We mix easily abroad.
We speak English.
We intermarry.
We share similar values.
We communicate naturally.
We understand each other’s worldview.

Whether you are Yoruba, Igbo, Ijaw, Kalabari, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Efik, Ibibio, Edo, or any other southern group, you can travel across the South and still feel at home.

Yes, we have differences.
But we are culturally compatible.

That is what makes a nation.

But when I go to the North, I do not feel Nigerian.

I feel like an outsider.

The tone is different.
The culture is different.
The structure is different.
The values are different.
The language is different.

Most of them do not speak English fluently.
Their social code is not the Nigerian code I grew up with.
Their worldview is shaped by a different civilization entirely.

They are closer in culture to Chad, Niger, and parts of the Arab world than they are to the Southern Nigerian identity.

And we must stop lying to ourselves about it.

For too long, Southerners have pretended.
We have repeated slogans.
We have used emotional propaganda.
We have forced ourselves to believe the fantasy of “One Nigeria.”

But this union was never natural.
It was engineered.

It was designed by the British.
It was forced together by colonial strategy.

And it has been catastrophic.

The South funds Nigeria.
The South drives Nigeria.
The South produces Nigeria’s wealth.
The South builds Nigeria’s international reputation.

Yet the South is treated with contempt.
Insulted.
Threatened.
Bullied.
And constantly blamed.

We are expected to carry the burden of a region that refuses to modernize, refuses to integrate, refuses to adapt, and refuses to respect those who feed the federation.

And then we are told we must remain silent for “unity.”

What kind of unity is that?

This is not unity.
This is exploitation.

The North has deep internal problems.
Security problems.
Extremism problems.
Banditry problems.
Educational problems.
Economic problems.

But instead of solving them, the political culture has become one of entitlement.
A belief that Nigeria belongs to them.
A belief that power is their birthright.

And I am tired of it.

I do not believe the North respects the South.
I do not believe the North will ever be a benefit to the South.
And I do not believe this forced marriage can survive forever.

Let us be honest.

I cannot marry their daughters.
Their culture is not mine.
Their religious structure is not mine.
Their values are not mine.

So why should we keep pretending?

This is not racism.
This is realism.

This is not hatred.
This is survival.

It is common sense.

The South must begin to openly revisit the Nigerian union.
Not with violence.
Not with insults.
But with seriousness.
With strategy.
With cold, professional political logic.

Let the North go its way.
Let it practice its religion freely.
Let it speak its language.
Let it develop its own resources.
Let it drill its own oil.
Let it solve its own security issues.

And let the South finally breathe.

Let the South smile again.

Because the insults, threats, backwardness, and endless political blackmail from the North has drained the spirit of the Southern Nigerian identity.

Mistakes were made in 1960.
Southern independence leaders capitulated to British colonial pressure.
They accepted a union that should have been renegotiated from the beginning.

That decision has cost generations of Southerners their peace, their security, their wealth, and their dignity.

We must correct that mistake.

As a political scientist, and as a patriot, I have reached my final conclusion:

Nigeria cannot continue like this.

The South must make a strategic decision.
A peaceful decision.
A historic decision.

The North should go its own way.

And the South should finally build the prosperous, modern, educated, globally respected nation it was always meant to be.

Written by
Kio Amachree
Political Scientist
Stockholm, Sweden

#Nigeria #SouthernNigeria #PoliticalAnalysis #OneNigeriaMyth #NationalIdentity #Restructuring #SelfDetermination #NigerDelta #Yoruba #Igbo #Kalabari #Ijaw #Edo #Itsekiri #Urhobo #Efik #Ibibio #RiversState #Buguma #Shagamu #AfricanPolitics #PostColonialAfrica #BritishColonialLegacy #SecurityCrisis #NationalQuestion #NewNigeria #TruthAndReality #KioAmachree #StockholmWriter #AfricanStrategist

I am a Deltan and I relate to your post, especially when I went to Kano, although Kd was totally different.
If you are a liberal conservative then you are similar to the northerners than the Lagosians.

NAIRALAND go remove your post if you criticise this man

We asked for electronic transmission of results. you switched conversation to electronic voting.

Putindbutt:
Election losers refused to understand that manual voting and coalition is still in the law. As a matter of fact, it's a vital component of our electoral law and it has not been expunged.

Even in the US where electronic voting is being practiced, it is still a controversial issue. In 2016, Trump defeated Hilary Clinton but the Democrats were alleging "foreign interference"/ hacking of election results.They blamed Russia.

In 2020, Trump lost to Biden and Trump was accusing Democrats of alteration of results. Till today, Trump still believes the election was rigged. And we saw how he alluded to it once again when he put up a video depicting Obama and his wife as Apes. At the background, he was insinuating that voting machines were tampered with.

In South Africa, their last Presidential election had a bit of glitches.

Banks and Telecoms do experience technical glitches which affect mobile operations.

completeskills:
See very weak excuse. We are a long way from electronic voting which is true like he said but he needs more understanding. Nigerians are not really asking for "real time result" they ust want the collated reesuts from every unit to be sent to the central server as soon as counting is concluded.
That way result manipulation will be reduced drastically and court cases can easily be dealt with when there is such evidence. The Government in power knows this and that's why they will never let it fly. Nigerians must demand for it's implementation if they want their votes to count otherwise don't bother to go and vote.

His argument is too weak and lacks basic sense. He must be saying the weak line to indirectly solicit appointment. Everything now is done online but transmission of electoral results. Driver's license application, International passport application, jon applications and even interviews, all exams are CBT now, banking transactions are now electronic than physical but when it comes to transparency, this Government goes dumb.
Just like they have refused to keep posting their quarterly expenditures for the public to see after the first one backfired.

Well said mr Lecky.. why demand electronic transmission when the entire voting process isn’t even electronic?

Nigeria isn’t ripe yet for electronic transmission of results.

Let’s first start with Lg and state govt elections with electronic voting then the country can now progress to implementing it on national/presidential elections

kingsways:
Nigeria needs electronic voting not just real time transmission of results

Voting should be electronic and transmission realtime!

Exactly!

Lol do you know how many times CBT centres and exams have had network issues.. have you forgotten the JAMB case of last year or so that caused many candidates to fail, some even committed suicide.

As an IT personnel, an electronic voting or transmission have to be 100% effective to be deployed.. Nigeria hasn’t gotten to that stage yet

crazygod:
If they can insist of CBT exams, why can't they also use e-transmission of votes in real time? Yeye dey smell.

What’s this repudiation of everything the so called progressives of the 90s stand for by the progressives of the 90s that got into power decades later, same people that talked about making Nigeria right are so scared out of being out of power that they are ready to rig and even keel

commoditiesnig:
Lol do you know how many times CBT centres and exams have had network issues.. have you forgotten the JAMB case of last year or so that caused many candidates to fail, some even committed suicide.

As an IT personnel, an electronic voting or transmission have to be 100% effective to be deployed.. Nigeria hasn’t gotten to that stage yet

Jamb of last year was an ethnic agenda gone wrong

Gotocourt:
But Banks can do transaction in real time

Na wa for you
Do we have banks in rural areas ?

NaijaSumi:
We must be ready, that's what Nigerians demands... Electronic transmission of votes in real time... We are not talking about electronic voting but the transmission in real time...

You can't deceive us this time around.. We know who we are voting for... If you people like, let all governors form a single party, we shall decide... Politicians can't decide for us, we the masses insist on electronic transmission of votes.

Who are we ?
speak for yourself only