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If you search the web or dictionaries, you would find qualifying definations to the term grace; qualified by words like the freely given, unmerited love, favor, and forgiveness of God, a gift to humanity rather than a reward for actions. Having read this many definations, I got the feel that it did not lead to a destination as it were, If it should be freely accessible then there should be an access point, person or place; Just like a miner would not just dig up just any land in search of precious metals. The concept of grace being connected to God makes it more of a spiritual thing that came into being physcical. This explains that the actual concept of grace can not be fully understood except through the lens of the Scriptures.

The key question to ask is this term that is qualfied as freely given, unmerited love, favor,..... etc what really is it in tangible terms: The person that was closest to the Lord Jesus when he walk the earth gave this account of him in John 1:14

And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

this shows that the fullness of grace was found in him. As simple as that sounds its reveals a deeper truth: That grace from God has no other source in the realm of the flesh except from the Word that became flesh - Jesus.

I remember another event in John chapter 7 during the feast at a time when the pharises were looking for ways to arrest and kill him but His time had not yet come. Soldiers were sent to get him but read what they had to say when they returned to their masters

44 And some of them wanted to arrest Him, but no one laid hands on Him.
45 The officers then came to the chief priests and Pharisees, and they said to them, “Why did you not bring Him?” 46 The officers answered, “Never has a man spoken in this way!”
other versions said no man ever spoke like this. He was the source of grace and the only one at that, because he carried it in its fullness. In Ephesians 2 verse 8 Paul speaks about the believer being saved by grace through faith. To understand this better we need to understand how the soource of grace Himself puts it:

John 12:48
New American Standard Bible
48 The one who rejects Me and does not accept My teachings has one who judges him: the word which I spoke. That will judge him on the last day.


So it is about Him and by extension His teaching that defines grace and is grace. The Lord bless and keep you with His teachings (word)

ediplan:
...And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

this shows that the fullness of grace was found in him. As simple as that sounds its reveals a deeper truth: That grace has no other source in the realm of the flesh except from the Word that became flesh - Jesus.

I remember another event in John chapter 7 during the feast at a time when the pharises were looking for ways to arrest and kill him but His time had not yet come. Soldiers were sent to get him but read what they had to say when they returned to their master

Ah! You deviated from this point.

ediplan:
...And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

this shows that the fullness of grace was found in him. As simple as that sounds its reveals a deeper truth: That grace has no other source in the realm of the flesh except from the Word that became flesh - Jesus.

I remember another event in John chapter 7 during the feast at a time when the pharises were looking for ways to arrest and kill him but His time had not yet come. Soldiers were sent to get him but read what they had to say when they returned to their master

Ah! You deviated from this point and rushed to the end and did not finish presenting what grace is

Please do well to add your percpective as it is needed for everyone to grow in the knowledge of the Truth

Dtruthspeaker:
Ah! You deviated from this point and rushed to the end and did not finish presenting what grace is

ediplan:
Please do well to add your percpective as it is needed for everyone to grow in the knowledge of the Truth

You were on track so just try and continue the track without departing from it

Thanks for the observation, I have changed the highlight to help show the continuations I wanted to make. You have been very helpful. Thank you.

Dtruthspeaker:
You were on track so just try and continue the track without departing from it

ediplan:
Thanks for the observation, I have changed the highlight to help show the continuations I wanted to make. You have been very helpful. Thank you.

Ok.

But you see, you have still not taken us to what grace is.

You are only saying that Jesus got grace to even full capacity.

Although I see that there is the second view you are looking at it from which is that Jesus is Grace. However, this view does not really explain to our usefulness what grace really is, especially as we are not like Jesus who automatically had the grace even from birth.

So, we are looking for how to get grace

Grace is any word that comes out of the mouth of the Lord Jesus, Thats the essense of the writing.

Dtruthspeaker:
Ok.

But you see, you have still not taken us to what grace is.

You are only saying that Jesus got grace to even full capacity.

Although I see that there is the second view you are looking at it from which is that Jesus is Grace. However, this view does not really explain to our usefulness what grace really is, especially as we are not like Jesus who automatically had the grace even from birth.

So, we are looking for how to get grace

ediplan:
Grace is any word that comes out of the mouth of the Lord Jesus, Thats the essense of the writing.

Ok, you are close but.

So, when God said "ye shall surely die" or when Jesus Said "shall be casted into the fire", is this grace?

ediplan:
Thanks for the observation, I have changed the highlight to help show the continuations I wanted to make. You have been very helpful. Thank you.

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