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Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by Clairvoyancy: 11:55am On Feb 08
Omoawoke:
At this pont, you are only exposing how shallow your thinking is…

you are judging a genre-founder from the 1970s with TikTok-era hype logic. That’s like using Instagram likes to evaluate physics research

Fela is still being sampled, referenced and structurally copied by serious musicians today. That is what people who actually understand music look at.

And I’m not deceiving myself, I still listen to Fela up till tomorrow and many others still listens to him around the world… just the soundtracks alone are sufficient to enjoy a long drive…

Now answer one clean question instead of dodging:

How many major artists have rebuilt their sound around Wizkid the way musicians keep rebuilding around Fela?
(At this pont, you are only exposing how shallow your thinking is)… you are actually referring to yourself with this



(you are judging a genre-founder from the 1970s with TikTok-era hype logic.) Wiz is not from tick-tock era, go get your facts


(Fela is still being sampled, referenced and structurally copied by serious musicians today. That is what people who actually understand music look at.).... Mention few of them, now who brought Fela back to limelight among those you mentioned?


(And I’m not deceiving myself, I still listen to Fela up till tomorrow and many others still listens to him around the world… just the soundtracks alone are sufficient to enjoy a long drive)… You are actually, ok let's accept you and few others do, what are the numbers compared to today's ratings? You combined with the few others you mentioned worldwide, you all didn't total up to a significant numbers that can be noted by all known streaming platforms, so?


(How many major artists have rebuilt their sound around Wizkid the way musicians keep rebuilding around Fela?).... Ok I asked you too, during Fela's prime, how many of his contemporaries or even upcoming emulates his style? Meaning it was after his demise people starts imitating him...
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by Omoawoke(m): 12:03pm On Feb 08
Clairvoyancy:
(At this pont, you are only exposing how shallow your thinking is)… you are actually referring to yourself with this



(you are judging a genre-founder from the 1970s with TikTok-era hype logic.) Wiz is not from tick-tock era, go get your facts


(Fela is still being sampled, referenced and structurally copied by serious musicians today. That is what people who actually understand music look at.).... Mention few of them, now who brought Fela back to limelight among those you mentioned?


(And I’m not deceiving myself, I still listen to Fela up till tomorrow and many others still listens to him around the world… just the soundtracks alone are sufficient to enjoy a long drive)… You are actually, ok let's accept you and few others do, what are the numbers compared to today's ratings? You combined with the few others you mentioned worldwide, you all didn't total up to a significant numbers that can be noted by all known streaming platforms, so?


(How many major artists have rebuilt their sound around Wizkid the way musicians keep rebuilding around Fela?).... Ok I asked you too, during Fela's prime, how many of his contemporaries or even upcoming emulates his style? Meaning it was after his demise people starts imitating him...
You keep shouting “facts” but you clearly don’t understand how musical influence is measured.

Nobody said Wizkid is a TikTok artist. The point is that you are judging music with streaming-era consumption logic and applying it to a man who built music in a totally different industry structure. That is basic context, not insult.

Now to your biggest embarrassment:

You asked, who is sampling Fela, and who brought him back to limelight?”

This alone shows you don’t understand legacy.

Fela Anikulapo-Kuti never needed anybody to “bring him back”. He never left the academic, production and musician reference space.

Serious artists who have publicly built on, sampled, reworked or structurally referenced Fela’s sound include:
Burna Boy,
Questlove,
Erykah Badu,
and even Beyoncé openly credited Afrobeat and Fela’s legacy as part of the creative foundation of her African-inspired work.
Those are not bloggers but musicians and producers.
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by Omoawoke(m): 12:10pm On Feb 08
Clairvoyancy:
(At this pont, you are only exposing how shallow your thinking is)… you are actually referring to yourself with this



(you are judging a genre-founder from the 1970s with TikTok-era hype logic.) Wiz is not from tick-tock era, go get your facts


(Fela is still being sampled, referenced and structurally copied by serious musicians today. That is what people who actually understand music look at.).... Mention few of them, now who brought Fela back to limelight among those you mentioned?


(And I’m not deceiving myself, I still listen to Fela up till tomorrow and many others still listens to him around the world… just the soundtracks alone are sufficient to enjoy a long drive)… You are actually, ok let's accept you and few others do, what are the numbers compared to today's ratings? You combined with the few others you mentioned worldwide, you all didn't total up to a significant numbers that can be noted by all known streaming platforms, so?


(How many major artists have rebuilt their sound around Wizkid the way musicians keep rebuilding around Fela?).... Ok I asked you too, during Fela's prime, how many of his contemporaries or even upcoming emulates his style? Meaning it was after his demise people starts imitating him...
You and this streaming…

So in your logic , streaming numbers is equal to greatness or good music??


your problem is not music, it’s thinking problem

You’re using Spotify numbers to judge originality. That alone shows low IQ.
You keep shouting “facts” but all your facts are today’s charts, not how influence actually works.

You’re also contradicting yourself. You talk say “who brought Fela back to limelight?” so now greatness needs PR before it counts?
But five minutes later you say “numbers don’t lie”.
So which one is it, legacy or playlists? Pick one and stop embarrassing yourself.
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by realmindz: 12:19pm On Feb 08
Clairvoyancy:
Look at how you just by your own self displayed your ignorance.....

You need to go and understand what "Hall of Fame" means first, maybe I can then engage with you....


Fela still conquering? Lol.... You people don't work with facts, that's my problem with you guys.... When last did you yourself listened to Fela's music? How many people listens to his music today? I don't want assumptions, I want real facts... Let's go to Apple music, Spotify, Audiomack, Boom play, etc .. and let's see what we have ...

Please you have know reasonable arguments at all ...
Hello, are you seriously using streaming numbers on Spotify and Apple Music to rate the quality and impact of a music ? LOL
Are you a music producer or musician. There’s a reason why global artists and producers pick Fela’s music to study and sample. Stop unnecessary arguments please because it’s obvious you don’t understand music
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by Clairvoyancy: 12:33pm On Feb 08
Omoawoke:
You keep shouting “facts” but you clearly don’t understand how musical influence is measured.

Nobody said Wizkid is a TikTok artist. The point is that you are judging music with streaming-era consumption logic and applying it to a man who built music in a totally different industry structure. That is basic context, not insult.

Now to your biggest embarrassment:

You asked, who is sampling Fela, and who brought him back to limelight?”

This alone shows you don’t understand legacy.

Fela Anikulapo-Kuti never needed anybody to “bring him back”. He never left the academic, production and musician reference space.

Serious artists who have publicly built on, sampled, reworked or structurally referenced Fela’s sound include:
Burna Boy,
Questlove,
Erykah Badu,
and even Beyoncé openly credited Afrobeat and Fela’s legacy as part of the creative foundation of her African-inspired work.
Those are not bloggers but musicians and producers.
Lol... Well, here's my final quote cos I have realized you are one of those who jumps around during arguments, you change goal post when your points are being questioned...

All these questions you are asking me are unnecessary cos I already mentioned that going head to head with both legends isn't reasonable due to some factors, but you wanted to prove to me why Wiz shouldn't be referred to as legend just because Fela created the genre (which in truth, he's not even the founder), and you have not been able to...


So I leave you with this, as far as afro beat is concerned, Fela is a legend during his time, and Wiz is the new legend of afrobeats both on papers and in reality... And Wiz legendary status is not writing off or competing with that of Fela, both should be respectrd in their own way
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by Clairvoyancy: 12:37pm On Feb 08
realmindz:
Hello, are you seriously using streaming numbers on Spotify and Apple Music to rate the quality and impact of a music ? LOL
Are you a music producer or musician. There’s a reason why global artists and producers pick Fela’s music to study and sample. Stop unnecessary arguments please because it’s obvious you don’t understand music
Don't jump in-between arguments to start judging please... I already stated that Wiz doesn't really understand music that much, Fela actually studied music in school, so knowing music is not the bone of contention here, but their greatness is...
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by Omoawoke(m): 2:45pm On Feb 08
Clairvoyancy:
Lol... Well, here's my final quote cos I have realized you are one of those who jumps around during arguments, you change goal post when your points are being questioned...

All these questions you are asking me are unnecessary cos I already mentioned that going head to head with both legends isn't reasonable due to some factors, but you wanted to prove to me why Wiz shouldn't be referred to as legend just because Fela created the genre (which in truth, he's not even the founder), and you have not been able to...


So I leave you with this, as far as afro beat is concerned, Fela is a legend during his time, and Wiz is the new legend of afrobeats both on papers and in reality... And Wiz legendary status is not writing off or competing with that of Fela, both should be respectrd in their own way
I don’t care if this your last quote… if you like, make it your last but I won’t stop to point out your ignorance, low IQ and make a mockery of it.

you spent the whole argument shouting numbers, streams, platforms, ratings , now suddenly you end with “both should be respected in their own way”.
That is pure back-pedalling. When your numbers failed to prove originality, you quietly changed the goalpost to emotional balance to console yourself

You can call Wizkid or anybody a legend if you want, your opinion be that… your opinion would never make Wizkid be given a Grammy lifetime award now or in the next 100 years… take that for a fact.
In Felas era and in this Era, Fela remains the greatest and no one dead or alive has matched up to him..
Maybe in the nearest future, but as at now, I repeat.. no one dead or alive has been able to wear the shoes of Fela and that is the single fact you can never ever change.

Wizkid is great among his peers such as Davido, Burna boy, and others…
Fela is on a god mode level.. a disruptor.

Saying they are both great in their own ways is the most arrogant talk you can use to delude yourself..
no sir, there’s zero room for comparison…and you cannot do that
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by Omoawoke(m): 2:55pm On Feb 08
Clairvoyancy:
Lol... Well, here's my final quote cos I have realized you are one of those who jumps around during arguments, you change goal post when your points are being questioned...

All these questions you are asking me are unnecessary cos I already mentioned that going head to head with both legends isn't reasonable due to some factors, but you wanted to prove to me why Wiz shouldn't be referred to as legend just because Fela created the genre (which in truth, he's not even the founder), and you have not been able to...


So I leave you with this, as far as afro beat is concerned, Fela is a legend during his time, and Wiz is the new legend of afrobeats both on papers and in reality... And Wiz legendary status is not writing off or competing with that of Fela, both should be respectrd in their own way
Oga last quote

You cannot speak ignorance and tell a blatant lie and expect to escape with it.

You must mention who founded Afrobeats today…
Who is the founder of Afrobeats?

Maybe it’s Wizkid

But wait oo, wetin that Wizkid dey sing sef?? Person whey never die whey don turn to old glory 🤣🤣

Because when was the last time that guy was anything close to relevant? Lol
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by tanigororo: 5:01pm On Feb 08
Clairvoyancy:
Even at that, I still believe Fela gave his generation what they wanted and Wizkid is doing same likewise... Fela pulled huge crowd cos of his lyrics, guts, lifestyle, and knowledge of music... His music is still relatable cos the government of Nigeria is still bad till date , trust me, if Africa could match up with other continents, I bet Fela style of music will sound irritating to newer generations, except for few people who are up to date with history...


Wiz on the other hand, people love him not really because he understood music 🎵, but his melodious voice got a lot of his fans captivated, couple with his lifestyle and aura.. Just like Fela, as the world evolves and new generation emerges, his style of music also fades away....

But both will stand the test of time before they eventually fades away... No doubt
Fella is a Pace Setter, a Pioneer, a revolutionary.
What has Wizkid Pioneer?
What Pace has WizKid set and for who?
What is Revolutionary in WizKid Songs?

Answer these and let's talk.
Wizkid has a large fans base which is not deniable and they are loyal to him, but his song cannot meet be their tomorrow.
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by Clairvoyancy: 7:18pm On Feb 08
tanigororo:
Fella is a Pace Setter, a Pioneer, a revolutionary.
What has Wizkid Pioneer?
What Pace has WizKid set and for who?
What is Revolutionary in WizKid Songs?

Answer these and let's talk.
Wizkid has a large fans base which is not deniable and they are loyal to him, but his song cannot meet be their tomorrow.
You people keep making the same mistakes...


Everybody can't be a pacesetter, someone will definitely start it, while some others will keep it moving.... MJ didn't set the pace for pop, did he? Not even the great Elvis Presley, are they legends or not? Why do people refer to MJ as the king of pop music? Cos he changed the game with his own added spice...

Again you don't expect all musicians to sing about revolution... Varieties is what makes life itself interesting, if everyone keeps doing same thing it will become boring and uninteresting... Fela is good in his various style of musics, and Wizkid is not doing bad in the path he chose... I still stand on my word, both are legends...
Re: I Can't Believe Wizkid Compared Himself To This GENIUS - Fela Concert In Berlin by tanigororo: 2:46pm On Feb 09
Clairvoyancy:
You people keep making the same mistakes...


Everybody can't be a pacesetter, someone will definitely start it, while some others will keep it moving.... MJ didn't set the pace for pop, did he? Not even the great Elvis Presley, are they legends or not? Why do people refer to MJ as the king of pop music? Cos he changed the game with his own added spice...

Again you don't expect all musicians to sing about revolution... Varieties is what makes life itself interesting, if everyone keeps doing same thing it will become boring and uninteresting... Fela is good in his various style of musics, and Wizkid is not doing bad in the path he chose... I still stand on my word, both are legends...
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