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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:44pm On Feb 12
Marykhay:
Dollarnaira abeg help.

I want to know what configuration and the battery type. With such knowledge I can just add to the battery.
you would have to help us identify the head / Positive: the top with pointed tip (koko)

and the bottom that's flat (no pointed tip or koko)

Then we teach you how to identify the configuration.

Also you just can't add extra cells abi battery without knowing the current health of the batteries.

Also, you didn't tell us if it's 12v or 24v or huh
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:45pm On Feb 12
Marykhay:
Maybe the builder na Seun friend I don’t know 🤧

If I had known about the builders in this thread long b4 now, I would have just saved myself from all this nonesense. This system doesn’t even get to 400wh discharge before it shuts down.
the person who built that is a newbie who probably used youTube videos. Sofrey make police no catch you with that things Ooo, dem go think say you dey work with bokoHarfam dem
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Marykhay: 10:48pm On Feb 12
bassdow:
the person who built that is a newbie who probably used youTube videos. Sofrey make police no catch you with that things Ooo, dem go think say you dey work with bokoHarfam dem
Lols. Abeg o. I’m the one who opened it up. It was sealed. The guy has been in this stuff long before now, in fact it was on Nairaland I got to know about him. But come on, these cells are definitely refurbished.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:49pm On Feb 12
Marykhay:
Seun stop banning me na

😫

Abeg dollarnaira, Valto, Mrreed and other builders, please what configuration is this? I just opened the system.

This is supposed to be 4S2P for 768Wh system.
Just looked at the picture a bit more patiently .

The tops with black color is +ve (positive) while the shiny parts is +ve (Negative)

Now kindly tell us the rating (amps or voltage) of a single battery. That should be on the sticker of the blue body
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Marykhay: 10:50pm On Feb 12
bassdow:
you would have to help us identify the head / Positive: the top with pointed tip (koko)

and the bottom that's flat (no pointed tip or koko)

Then we teach you how to identify the configuration.

Also you just can't add extra cells abi battery without knowing the current health of the batteries.

Also, you didn't tell us if it's 12v or 24v or huh
Actually, I understand his wiring and so I didn’t include all that part in the picture. But the configuration is not clear to me. I’m thinking he did 6S2P but the bus is obviously a 4S. But I’m not sure, hence why I brought it here

It’s a 12V system.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Marykhay: 10:55pm On Feb 12
bassdow:
Just looked at the picture a bit more patiently .

The tops with black color is +ve (positive) while the shiny parts is +ve (Negative)

Now kindly tell us the rating (amps or voltage) of a single battery. That should be on the sticker of the blue body
It’s a 20Ah 3.7V cell.

For a 768Wh system the best configuration would be 4S3p that’s 60Ah 12.8V. But this one here is not clear to me. If you see from the first image, the bums wire are 4 in numbers meaning it’s a 4S system; but I’m not just sure about his arrangement. I just need clarity on that. Maybe he did not do it well I don’t even know/

But it seems the guy knew me to be somewhat knowledgeable about these things he had to do it this way to confuse me 😭. This guy really do me bad.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:57pm On Feb 12
Marykhay:
Actually, I understand his wiring and so I didn’t include all that part in the picture. But the configuration is not clear to me. I’m thinking he did 6S2P but the bus is obviously a 4S. But I’m not sure, hence why I brought it here

It’s a 12V system.
well as you come exclude certain parts.

Would suggest you just follow the terminals, see how many negatives were joined together, do same with positives. That should answer your question.

The picture not clear as it's just a bundle of entangled huh

I think I have seen what's confusing you; me sef don loss along the way.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Marykhay: 11:00pm On Feb 12
bassdow:
well as you come exclude certain parts.

Would suggest you just follow the terminals, see how many negatives were joined together, do same with positives. That should answer your question.

The picture not clear as it's just a bundle of entangled huh

I think I have seen what's confusing you; me sef don loss along the way.
Does this help?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 6:03am On Feb 13
Marykhay:
Seun stop banning me na

😫

Abeg dollarnaira, Valto, Mrreed and other builders, please what configuration is this? I just opened the system.

This is supposed to be 4S2P for 768Wh system.
Did you build this?
Is it a working pack?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 6:53am On Feb 13
dollarnaira:
Did you build this?
Is it a working pack?
very good question. The wiring dey do mission-Impossible
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 7:03am On Feb 13
bassdow:
very good question. The wiring dey do mission-Impossible
grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Marykhay: 7:12am On Feb 13
dollarnaira:
Did you build this?
Is it a working pack?
No Boss

It’s someone else that built it. I just want to know the configuration he did. The batteries are not strong and so I want to add to it in order to increase its capacity.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 7:37am On Feb 13
Marykhay:
No Boss

It’s someone else that built it. I just want to know the configuration he did. The batteries are not strong and so I want to add to it in order to increase its capacity.
you yet to understand something - going by the picture you showed us, a lot of us still wondering how it's / was able to work in the first place.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 7:44am On Feb 13
Marykhay:
Seun stop banning me na

😫

Abeg dollarnaira, Valto, Mrreed and other builders, please what configuration is this? I just opened the system.

This is supposed to be 4S2P for 768Wh system.
4s3p, check each parallel cells when the battery is fully charged if they have the same voltage, they may be out of balance thereby causing reduced capacity
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oluchibabe: 8:49am On Feb 13
Morning Guys.

There was someone here who used to sell original Cables and other Accessories like SPD, Breakers, etc.
If anyone remembers his handle, kindly help with it.

I need to buy the following items:
- 10mm and 6mm DC Cable (full ones)
BTW, @Bassdow was saying that one can use Recline Nepa Wire to do the Run from Solar Panels, down to Inverter? Is this safe and efficient?)

- 6mm AC cable ( Red and Black_
- 32A, 2Pole AC Breaker
- 20A 2Pole DC Breaker x2
- Change Over
- 12 -14way Enclosure Box
- 500V DC SPD
- AC SPD
- 22A PV Fuse and Casing
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Kaczynski: 8:56am On Feb 13
Marykhay:
Does this help?
Your soldering is too poor . are you one of those apprentices at alaba??
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Marykhay: 9:03am On Feb 13
Penuelseun:
4s3p, check each parallel cells when the battery is fully charged if they have the same voltage, they may be out of balance thereby causing reduced capacity
I see, the BMS the builder used is not an active one. I’m thinking this is the main problem; imbalanced cells.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Marykhay: 9:06am On Feb 13
Kaczynski:
Your soldering is too poor . are you one of those apprentices at alaba??
😭
It’s not my work o. I just opened it and saw the magic too.


I only want to know the configuration and probably the name of this exact cells so I can maybe work on them to balance, and increase the system capacity by adding more cells.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Marykhay: 9:10am On Feb 13
@dollarnaira, @Mrreed
Pls if I disconnect those cells and parallel them all for
Balancing, how long will it take for them to balance?

Within 24hours?
Days?
Week?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 9:20am On Feb 13
Marykhay:
No Boss

It’s someone else that built it. I just want to know the configuration he did. The batteries are not strong and so I want to add to it in order to increase its capacity.
Dismantle and reconfigure as
3p4s.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Marykhay: 9:28am On Feb 13
dollarnaira:
Dismantle and reconfigure as
3p4s.
Thanks for this.
Pls I asked about balancing the cells. If I, first of all, connect all of them in parallel for balancing, how long will it take for the 12cells to balance?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by capnies: 9:41am On Feb 13
Good morning brothers and sisters
Please I need a good spot welding machine that can welding. 0.2mm nickel plated copper strip

Who has
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 9:48am On Feb 13
Marykhay:
Thanks for this.
Pls I asked about balancing the cells. If I, first of all, connect all of them in parallel for balancing, how long will it take for the 12cells to balance?
There is no way to determine that.
See, without proper tools/devices you cannot do this successfully especially çharging at 1s and 4s. Poor cells balance, poor set up.

DIY = RIGHT TOOLS
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oweniwe(m): 10:02am On Feb 13
oluchibabe:
Morning Guys.
was saying that one can use Recline Nepa Wire to do the Run from Solar Panels, down to Inverter? Is this safe and efficient?)
If nepa wire can carry live AC current from transformer, then it should be safe..

If you check inside some solar panels cables, the wire is usually same whitish like nepa wire , though more flexible... So they should both be the same.

Buy new one from electrical stores... Full insulated bundle... (Naked one not advisable cos of lighting) Just know that they have different sizes (mm) ...

I use nepa wire for my set up... I think there are 4/5 strings inside and no problem whatsoever

Buy the size accordingly as required

The cost of flex pure copper cables no be here o
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:52am On Feb 13
Kaczynski:
Your soldering is too poor . are you one of those apprentices at alaba??
He said it's not His work. Even me sef no go gree say na my work even if it is. abi you wan spoil market for me ?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 10:58am On Feb 13
grin grin
bassdow:
He said it's not His work. Even me sef no go gree say na my work even if it is. abi you wan spoil market for me ?
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:59am On Feb 13
oweniwe:
If nepa wire can carry live AC current from transformer, then it should be safe..

If you check inside some solar panels cables, the wire is usually same whitish like nepa wire , though more flexible... So they should both be the same.

Buy new one from electrical stores... Full insulated bundle... (Naked one not advisable cos of lighting) Just know that they have different sizes (mm) ...

I use nepa wire for my set up... I think there are 4/5 strings inside and no problem whatsoever

Buy the size accordingly as required

The cost of flex pure copper cables no be here o
abeg leave them let them keep spending money. Even me sef don dey think of selling Solar pure water . The mere fact the word "solar" dey the name means I could sell same for 1,500 naira a piece instead of 3pcs for 100 naira.

After dem don spending more than 100,000 naira to buy wetin the NEPA wire of less than 20,000 naira go settle, dem go come begin dey shop for CHEAPest manPower to handle the setUp.

More interesting is the fact a lot of so called copper cables in market are cheap aluminium cables coated with copper. the greed doesn't even stop there; dem go still reduce the metal inside, and make the insulation thicker to make you think the cable is big.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 11:02am On Feb 13
oweniwe:
If nepa wire can carry live AC current from transformer, then it should be safe..

If you check inside some solar panels cables, the wire is usually same whitish like nepa wire , though more flexible... So they should both be the same.

Buy new one from electrical stores... Full insulated bundle... (Naked one not advisable cos of lighting) Just know that they have different sizes (mm) ...

I use nepa wire for my set up... I think there are 4/5 strings inside and no problem whatsoever

Buy the size accordingly as required

The cost of flex pure copper cables no be here o
Refined Inverter users will say you will burn down your house if it is not strictly dc cables. If you package poo, you go sell am for this country, just make sure your package or "wrap" is very attractive.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 11:06am On Feb 13
dollarnaira:
Refined Inverter users will say you will burn down your house if it is not strictly dc cables. If you package poo, you go sell am for this country, just make sure your package or "wrap" is very attractive.
the one wey dey rain now na to package cheap lithium batteries into flashy boxes, come add tires join.

me just dey wait in a couple of years time, when dem go begin complain say the 10-years guarantee abi warantee never complete but battery don dey slow like nigeria's economy.

I keep telling people, if you can't afford quality lithium batteries, kukuma go for GEL or Tubular, or even SLA batteries from quality brands such as Genus. Funny enough, plenty people no go believe say quality lithium batteries scare for our corn3.

if you need 100ah battery be it Lithium or leadAcid based, go for x3 e.g 300ah so the battery is rarely discharge enough to cycle.

invest in quality things; if you can't afford them brand new, go for the used versions that are still usable.

Don't waste money trying to save money
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 11:09am On Feb 13
bassdow:
abeg leave them let them keep spending money. Even me sef don dey think of selling Solar pure water . The mere fact the word "solar" dey the name means I could sell same for 1,500 naira a piece instead of 3pcs for 100 naira.

After dem don spending more than 100,000 naira to buy wetin the NEPA wire of less than 20,000 naira go settle, dem go come begin dey shop for CHEAPest manPower to handle the setUp.

More interesting is the fact a lot of so called copper cables in market are cheap aluminium cables coated with copper. the greed doesn't even stop there; dem go still reduce the metal inside, and make the insulation thicker to make you think the cable is big.
Exactly!
Why you dey hit points this morning bros.

My full copper Belgium Ethernet cable is just there looking for more pv to be added. Shey bi na here all us gather dey.

If you don't have sense don't use Inverter
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 11:11am On Feb 13
dollarnaira:
Exactly!
Why you dey hit points this morning bros.

My full copper Belgium Ethernet cable is just there looking for more pv to be added. Shey bi na here all us gather dey.

If you don't have sense don't use Inverter
Abeg explain this part "My full copper Belgium Ethernet cable is just there looking for more pv to be added."
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 11:14am On Feb 13
Unfaized:
The Itel power tank is a low budget solution for intending solar users.

Cost break down ;
Power tank 500w (1kwh) 304k
Jinko 535w bifacial panel 107,500
Installation and materials 130k... Length of pv cable caused the price hike.

Loads.. Normal 32 inches tv
Small Home theater
Lighting points
And a standing refrigerator.
Dc standing fan.

Gets filled by 1pm due to lack of early morning sunlight (Should fill faster in a better location)

A full charge lasts through the night with the above loads mentioned leaving at least 35% charge, although TV and home theater goes off latest 11pm

If you're on a super tight budget and this solution can work for you, then by all means go for it. Highly recommended !
I agree. Especially for small businesses and shops that require more of daylight load.

I offer this solution including delivery and installation within Lagos for #600k.
The one with a 300w capacity for #560k

I use new or tokunbo panels of 500w and above, depending on what's available.
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