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DoWhatThouWilt:
It took a frustrated depressed guy's thread and your own painful marriage to understand a simple advise from Paul.

You prefer learning through painful experience rather than simple advise.

This is why I am 100% sure you and many other Christians won't smell heaven.

You wish!!!

And jealousy is eating you up for you see that i have been rocking this life very well because I always learn from the experiences of others . And you are already jealous again that you know that i am joining Noah and Daniel and Job in the new world by the grace of God

tctrills:
If after all I have written, you still don't know the answer, then you can't be helped. Continue encouraging people to break God's commands since that's all you have been doing. Enjoy.

Writing off point and Not answering a direct question is the definition of dodging.

Which means that you yourself know that you are wrong and therefore you do not want to commit yourself.

If you truly believe in what you say then commit and be ready to pai for your belief and answer the question directly which you have dodged this past 3 times "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?

tctrills:
You began with insults to show you are mannerless but no problem, I am use to nairaland. You are just a photocopy of many on this platform.
Please can you point me to the bible verse that taught Jesus Christ did not marry or are you just depending on guesswork?

Some of use only depend on the revealed word so if you teach Jesus Christ did not marry, you need to bring evidence if not you are only making noise.

Fallacy of reversing the burden of proof.

You are the one claiming that everyone must marry and have children to obey God. And now its been pointed out that Jesus did not marry nor have children.

So if indeed you are saying the Truth then you are the one to prove and show where Jesus married and birthed children.

So, show us where Jesus married and had children.

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Dtruthspeaker:
Fallacy of reversing the burden of proof.

You are the one claiming that everyone must marry and have children to obey God. And now its been pointed out that Jesus did not marry nor have children.

So if indeed you are saying the Truth then you are the one to prove and show where Jesus married and birthed children.

So, show us where Jesus married and had children.

It was not pointed that Jesus Christ did not marry. The boy thinks that Jesus Christ did not marry and he could not provide any evidence to show that.
It will be stupid to argue what was not revealed. Neither of us knows if Jesus Christ married or not so any argument will be guesswork. I don't do guesswork, I do the revealed word. Thanks for your understanding

Dtruthspeaker:
Writing off point and Not answering a direct question is the definition of dodging.

Which means that you yourself know that you are wrong and therefore you do not want to commit yourself.

If you truly believe in what you say then commit and be ready to pai for your belief and answer the question directly which you have dodged this past 3 times "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?

I already told you, your case is hopeless, So sorry I can't help you any further. I answered your question 3 times but you keep asking. I can only advise you to seek wisdom and understanding.

tctrills:
I already told you, your case is hopeless, So sorry I can't help you any further. I answered your question 3 times but you keep asking. I can only advise you to seek wisdom and understanding.

If you have truly answered the question you won't have said "If after all I have written, you still don't know the answer".

So, you have not answered the question

So pai for your belief and answer directly the question "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned? if indeed you speak the Truth

tctrills:
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It was not pointed that Jesus Christ did not marry. The boy thinks that Jesus Christ did not marry and he could not provide any evidence to show that.
It will be stupid to argue what was not revealed. Neither of us knows if Jesus Christ married or not so any argument will be guesswork. I don't do guesswork, I do the revealed word. Thanks for your understanding

That is why it is called the fallacy of reversing the burden.

It is you who alleges and claims that that everyone must marry and have children to obey God. He only pointed out that Jesus did not marry nor have children.

So you are with the burden of proving that Jesus married and birthed children, if you are not lying.

So, show us where Jesus married and had children. So prove if you are not lying

Dtruthspeaker:
That is why it is called the fallacy of reversing the burden.

It is you who alleges and claims that that everyone must marry and have children to obey God. He only pointed out that Jesus did not marry nor have children.

So you are with the burden of proving that Jesus married and birthed children, if you are not lying.

So, show us where Jesus married and had children. So prove if you are not lying

Bobo your request is foolish at best and here is why.
I only told you what God commanded which is written in every bible.
Now you are telling me that the only way you will obey your God is if I provide evidence that Jesus Christ married.
Now the writers of the bible did not provide any evidence in either direction so you need me to invent evidence before you obey God's commandments clearly written in the bible.
This is what Morden Christianity has become.

Sir, I don't have the evidence you are asking for, so if that will stop you from obeying the written commandments of God, go ahead.

Lastly it was your friend that claimed Jesus Christ did not marry without evidence yet I am the one to provide evidence in the contrary. Make it make sense.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you have truly answered the question you won't have said "If after all I have written, you still don't know the answer".

So, you have not answered the question

So pai for your belief and answer directly the question "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned? if indeed you speak the Truth

Oga this is a problem of English language. But say I said, you case is hopeless. We will pray for you.

tctrills:
Bobo your request is foolish at best and here is why.
I only told you what God commanded which is written in even bible.

Now you are telling me that the only way you will obey your God is if I provide evidence that Jesus Christ married.
Now the writers of the bible did not provide any evidence in either direction so you need me to invent evidence before you obey God's commandments clearly written in the bible.
This is what Morden Christianity has become.

Sir, I don't have the evidence you are asking for, so if that will stop you from obeying the written commandments of God, go ahead.

Lastly it was your friend that claimed Jesus Christ did not marry without evidence yet I am the one to provide evidence in the contrary. Make it make sense.

Don't join my query with his own for he saw your claim that everyone must marry else they are guilty of disobedience which prompted him to ask you whether Jesus disobeyed God when He did not marry nor had kids.

Which means that you are supposed to prove that Jesus married and had children. That is your burden as a claimant and an alleger.

So, now you have admitted that there is no evidence proving your claim which you already knew before so you can see that you have spoken fallsly.

tctrills:
Oga this is a problem of English language. But say I said, you case is hopeless. We will pray for you.

In English language when you are asked "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" You are required to answer "yes i do say that everyone must marry and have children to obey God or no, i don't say that that everyone must marry and have children to obey God.

And you have been dodging and dodging refusing to commit to your belief because you know you are talking rubbish.

Dtruthspeaker:
In English language when you are asked "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" You are required to answer "yes i do say that everyone must marry and have children to obey God or no, i don't say that that everyone must marry and have children to obey God.

And you have been dodging and dodging refusing to commit to your belief because you know you are talking rubbish.

Bobo, in English language, when you are ask a question, you have the privilege to give a broad explanation beyond yes or no. It is called adding clarity.
In fact, it works for all languages.
In your bible, Jesus Christ never answered the evil Pharisees with yes or no. 2000 years later I see no reason to reply Pharisees with yes or no.
I am sure you finally get it now.

Dtruthspeaker:
Don't join my query with his own for he saw your claim that everyone must marry else they are guilty of disobedience which prompted him to ask you whether Jesus disobeyed God when He did not marry nor had kids.

Which means that you are supposed to prove that Jesus married and had children. That is your burden as a claimant and an alleger.

So, now you have admitted that there is no evidence proving your claim which you already knew before so you can see that you have spoken fallsly.

Bobo be calm, I am only supposed to prove that God commanded us to marry and I have already done that.
That's all I need to prove.
Why is it up to me to prove what neither you nor I know?
Please make it make sense.
When the time comes, God will reveal all things to us but for now, it is sufficient for the wise to obey God even though we don't know all things. Just do as you are told and wait for the time of revaluation.
1 Corinthians 13:12
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Only a fool will disobey God because he doesn't know if Jesus Christ married or not.

Be wise bobo, don't be a fool.

tctrills:
Bobo be calm, I am only supposed to prove that God commanded us to marry and I have already done that.

No. You are supposed to prove what is being queried and challenged

tctrills:
Bobo, in English language, when you are ask a question, you have the privilege to give a broad explanation beyond yes or no. It is called adding clarity.
In fact, it works for all languages.
In your bible, Jesus Christ never answered the evil Pharisees with yes or no. 2000 years later I see no reason to reply Pharisees with yes or no.
I am sure you finally get it now.

Not when the question is a closed ended and direct and He still answered the questions directly eg they asked what was the greatest commandments. And He answered the 1st and second commandments.

So, answer the question if really you know that you are are not lying "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" or rest for your continuous dodging has already proven it.

Dtruthspeaker:
Not when the question is a closed ended and direct and He still answered the questions directly eg they asked what was the greatest commandments. And He answered the 1st and second commandments.

So, answer the question if really you know that you are are not lying "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" or rest for your continuous dodging has already proven it.

Bobo, they asked Him a direct question, if they should kill the woman caught on adultery.
Please remind us His answer.

Dtruthspeaker:
No. You are supposed to prove what is being queried and challenged

This is getting too long so let's summarise
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You believe that unless God reveals if Jesus Christ married on earth, you will not obey His instructions on marriage. Unless you have prove or a sign, you will not obey your Father in Heaven.
But for me, I believe we should obey even when He is yet to reveal all things to us. I wouldn't wait to know the marital status of the Saviour before I can obey Him.

Does this summarise our discussion?

tctrills:
This is getting too long so let's summarise
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You believe that unless God reveals if Jesus Christ married on earth, you will not obey His instructions on marriage. Unless you have prove or a sign, you will not obey your Father in Heaven.
But for me, I believe we should obey even when He is yet to reveal all things to us. I wouldn't wait to know the marital status of the Saviour before I can obey Him.

Does this summarise our discussion?

You are still deflecting and dodging and unable to prove your claim. But, we all get it that you know you have spoken wrongly here.

tctrills:
Bobo, they asked Him a direct question, if they should kill the woman caught on adultery.
Please remind us His answer.

You said he never answered a question and I have shown you that he did, so your saying this one is completely null.

So, again are you going to continue dodging the question "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" in proof that you yourself know that you are talking rubbish?

Dtruthspeaker:
You said he never answered a question and I have shown you that he did, so your saying this one is completely null.

So, again are you going to continue dodging the question "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" in proof that you yourself know that you are talking rubbish?

Please stop playing dumb and being dishonest. I never said He never answered questions. Let me quote myself.

In your bible, Jesus Christ never answered the evil Pharisees with yes or no. 2000 years later I see no reason to reply Pharisees with yes or no.
I am sure you finally get it now.

Please read what I said and make corrections.
I have not changed policy, I will not answer Pharisees with yes or no.

tctrills:
Please stop playing dumb and being dishonest. I never said He never answered questions. Let me quote myself.

In your bible, Jesus Christ never answered the evil Pharisees with yes or no. 2000 years later I see no reason to reply Pharisees with yes or no.
I am sure you finally get it now.

Please read what I said and make corrections.
I have not changed policy, I will not answer Pharisees with yes or no.

Still being ridiculously defiant especially as most of the questions He was asked were not yes and no questions however there were 1 or 2.

Eg when the chief priests asked Jesus, "Do you hear what these children are saying?" That is clearly a yes and no question and what was Jesus answer?

Jesus replied, "Yes,"

So, you see, you are layarr.

So, again are you going to keep making styupi excuses as you keep continue dodging the question "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" in proof that you yourself know that you are talking rubbish?

Dtruthspeaker:
Still being ridiculously defiant especially as most of the questions He was asked were not yes and no questions however there were 1 or 2.

Eg when the chief priests asked Jesus, "Do you hear what these children are saying?" That is clearly a yes and no question and what was Jesus answer?

Jesus replied, "Yes,"

So, you see, you are layarr.

So, again are you going to keep making styupi excuses as you keep continue dodging the question "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" in proof that you yourself know that you are talking rubbish?

Point remains, He did not answer many of their direct questions especially the stupid and evil ones.
Do you get it now?
I answered your question but you choose to remain unwise, how is it my fault nwanne

tctrills:
Point remains, He did not answer many of their direct questions especially the stupid and evil ones.
Do you get it now?
I answered your question but you choose to remain unwise, how is it my fault nwanne

See how you have proven that you lie too much? Now that i have shown you that you are lied you have now changed mouth

So, now you have run out of any excuses not to answer the question and this proves yet again that you lie when you say that you have answered the question whereas you were claiming that you did not answer the question because Jesus did not answer direct questions until now that you have seen that He did thereby making you a laya

So answer the question if Truth can still come out from you "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" or rest for everyone is tired of you showing us that the father of lies is your father.

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you have proven that you lie too much? Now that i have shown you that you are lied you have now changed mouth

So, now you have run out of any excuses not to answer the question and this proves yet again that you lie when you say that you have answered the question whereas you were claiming that you did not answer the question because Jesus did not answer direct questions until now that you have seen that He did thereby making you a laya

So answer the question if Truth can still come out from you "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" or rest for everyone is tired of you showing us that the father of lies is your father.

Sorry bobo, I can't remember you prove anything. And I answered your question just not with a yes or no.
Please ask anyone is a bit more sense, they will tell you that your question has been well attended to

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you have proven that you lie too much? Now that i have shown you that you are lied you have now changed mouth

So, now you have run out of any excuses not to answer the question and this proves yet again that you lie when you say that you have answered the question whereas you were claiming that you did not answer the question because Jesus did not answer direct questions until now that you have seen that He did thereby making you a laya

So answer the question if Truth can still come out from you "Do you say that God commanded that everyone must marry and that if they do not marry they have sinned?" or rest for everyone is tired of you showing us that the father of lies is your father.

Let me understand you, are your pained because I answered your question with a clear explanation instead of just yes and no?

tctrills:
Let me understand you, are your pained because I answered your question with a clear explanation instead of just yes and no?

Do you see me caring whether you answer me the question or not?

I am just wondering how long you would take to sustain your lies.

tctrills:
Sorry bobo, I can't remember you prove anything. And I answered your question just not with a yes or no.
Please ask anyone is a bit more sense, they will tell you that your question has been well attended to

Didn't ask you to remember and the clear thing every reasonable person can see is how loooooooooong you thread your lies