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| After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by cutecommend(op): 11:49pm On Feb 14 |
When a sinner accepts Jesus and genuinely repents from all sins, old things are passed away and all things are become new. But lets look at these questions. (1) If a man has stolen vehicles and now rides them, should he continue riding the vehicles after he gets born again or should he return them? (2) If a man secretly takes his neighbour's children and kills them for rituals, and his neighbour keeps looking for these kids: now if the man gets born again, should he watch his neighbour look for the kids or should he confess the act? (3) If a married woman has four children and she fully knows two of the kids are not for her husband, and her husband is boasting of the kids and spending millions on them. Now, if she gets born again, should she watch her husband "progress" in deception, continue boasting and spending millions? When someone get's born again, their names are written in the Book of Life, but as time goes, if they have things they need to return, confess, restitute, the Holy Spirit begins to remind them of these things for them to restitute it. If they fail to do it, it becomes disobedience and their names will be removed from the Book of Life. Restitution not done can hinder a Christian from entering heaven, and if you think you can take a secret worthy of confession to the grave, you may find yourself in hell fire after death. The HolySpirit can help you to have a successful restitution without punishment. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by cutecommend(op): 11:54pm On Feb 14*. Modified: 9:01am On Feb 15 |
Restitution: (1) Did you steal or defraud someone that you can still contact today, repent from sin, apologize to them & restitute. If you have stolen government money, falsified figures, connived to steal from your office etc, repent and restitute. (2) Have you cheated in courtship or legal marital relationship? Did you commit adultery, Have a side chic in marriage, sleep with your EX or someone else few days to wedding day, have kids as a man with another woman outside your marriage, have kids from paternity fraud, slept with someone's wife, slept with someone's husband etc? repent and make restitution to your partner: and if you are the one who cheated with the partner go and restitute. You can meet a mature born again Christian to assist you. (3) Gossip and False Accusation: Did you destroy someone's image? repent and apologize to them. Did you intentionally accuse someone falsely? Repent and apologize to them: and if they are serving any punishment because of this, go and confess to the punishing authority etc, that you falsely accused the person. If the false accusation was a mistake as a result of wrong information, still do same. (2) Did you offend anyone so badly? Repent and apologize. Do not just rush to make restitutions, pray about it, seek Godly counsel and Guidance before proceeding. Avoid things that will make you do restitution. Some sins don't require restitution, but some require restitution. Forgive those who have made complete restitution to you, not forgiving them will take you to hell fire. Repent from sins and accept Jesus today. If you keep a dark secret to the grave that is worthy of restitution or confession, you may be stopped in eternity from entering heaven. The HolySpirit can help you in restitution and make you go unpunished after restitution. May God show us mercy and help us in Jesus name. Amen. Divine intervention in Jesus Name. Amen. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Decapo: 8:13am On Feb 15 |
lol…not enough original content, Seun add the remaining |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Pastorsarynzay: 8:24am On Feb 15 |
Restitution is not our curriculum as Christian, confess were necessary, you can't wait for the mercy of man before you receive the mercy from God. Hope this make sense. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by nenergy(m): 8:28am On Feb 15 |
Restitution is the PR session of salvation. When you confess your sins, renounce the devil and his works and accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior...heaven rejoices. When you do restitution, humans rejoice. Salvation = Grace. Restitution = Justice. In lay man's point of view. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Steep(m): 8:29am On Feb 15 |
cutecommend:Are you saved by grace or by works? Doing restitution or any work at all in order to earn heaven will eventually earn you hell. You do restitution so you can live peacefully with men and not to make heaven. Whether you do restitution or not if you are saved you will go to heaven however you don't want to live with constant guilt with a secret or with someone else properties and also you will want your witness for Jesus to be demonstrated by your life. So Doing restitution is about our relationship with fellow human beings. So a woman living comfortably knowing that her kids is not her husband only shows that she does not have eternal life in her. Same way as anybody living in sin comfortably without turning to God shows they are not bornagain or have eternal life in them. 1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by ultim: 8:36am On Feb 15 |
cutecommend:Christ has done the ultimate restitution. But do not be deceived... (Complete it). This shows that you still pay. Remember, Paul was beharded in Rome. By and by, you will reign with Christ in heaven! |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by kaludestiny10(m): 8:38am On Feb 15 |
Restitution is more difficult than just asking God to forgive us of our sins. I always advice myself and people not to do things against our fellow human being because once we decide to give our lives to God, the next thing is restitution which can even make one to spend the rest of his or her life in jail such as in the case of murder. May God help us to live a life that is above sin, Amen |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by femi4: 8:39am On Feb 15 |
cutecommend:You can't restitue all, just do the ones you can. The most important change is change in xter going forward |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by bobbiiee: 8:41am On Feb 15 |
I have done restitution in the past and still believe in it. However, counsel is necessary to do so. Material things can be easily restored, but some restorations are more challenging than others. Apology and restitution do not exempt you from punishment; be prepared for the consequences. If your confession might negatively affect innocent lives, it's wise to seek divine guidance beforehand. Also, ask God for strength because it could be costly. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by keemsleek(m): 8:50am On Feb 15*. Modified: 9:16am On Feb 15 |
kaludestiny10:No matter how much you give your life to christ, for the sins committed we must pay for the price. You can't say you are new in Christ and still keep sins and lies, you must let it out. Cos you new in christ does not mean you won't pay for the sins you committed on earth and that's what confession and restitution is about. That's why I tell people walking with christ is like walking on fire. It's not a easy journey, it's more complex that Islam. If you give ur husband children that's not his you must tell him the truth and what outcome it brings is your punishment on earth for the sins you committed. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by kaludestiny10(m): 8:51am On Feb 15 |
You are absolutely right. keemsleek: |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Nteogwuija(m): 8:54am On Feb 15 |
Religion, especially Christianity, enables wrongdoing. Why do I have to be conscious of my evil deeds when I know that I can always plead for forgiveness and those evil deeds will be forgiven, and I'll go back to them? David and Solomon were chronic womanizers yet they were God's favorite because they were said, especially David, to have contrite spirits. Imagine the Constitution been replaced by the Bible, and sworn assasins, when caught, were asked to show remorse and they'll be forgiven and led back into the society. It's y I'm not surprised when I see a Winners Chapel pastor paying bribe on a queue just to be swapped to the front. He can always pray for forgiveness. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by TenQ: 8:57am On Feb 15 |
cutecommend:I agree with most of what you said except the highlighted in yellow. Not everything can be restituted. A man who raped a virgin girl cannot restitute anything. Will his apology restore what has been destroyed biologically, emotionally and psychologically? How can restitution be made for a consensual sex? This is why the punishment for sin is grievous (eternity in hell) because a sin against man is primarily a sin against God. Rom 12:19: "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place to wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, said the Lord." The aftereffect of Not preaching the Gospel to our neighbour is grievous (eternity in lake of fire), how do you think you can restitute for this? A man lost his job because you stole his N10,000 which he needed pay for his son's soon closing JAMB that caused him to be desperate to defraud his place of work of N50,000 for which he was caught and dismissed. how do you think you can restitute for this? Let every Christian obey the Leading of the Holy Spirit with respect to restitution and not make it a doctrine |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by InvestSmart(f): 9:05am On Feb 15 |
🤔"Restitution is more difficult than just asking God to forgive us of our sins. " kaludestiny10: |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Fiscus105(m): 9:10am On Feb 15 |
Not all restitution can be made, if you want to leave long, confess your sin to God and sin no more. A wife committed adultery and later confess to husband, ........... Be preparing for marriage crises . Use your wisdom before you embark on restitution |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by newmoney133: 9:16am On Feb 15 |
Once you genuinely give your life to God or become serious with him,the holy Ghost will direct you on areas to restiture.In a Christian program years ago,a word of knowledge came forth about a drama minister that slept with a girl,got her pregnant and tried to abort the baby and the lady died.God ask the drama minister to go and confess.The lady family need a closure.It will be left for them to forgive or punish him.We cannot restitute for all our sins.we can't even remember all.So we should all be carefull how we live our lives because if no one sees us God is definitely watching.How can you have a child outside wedlock and refuse to tell your partner and you think it does not matter cos old things have passed away.Restitution can be painful and scary but Remember God will comfort you in such time.But PRAY very very well before you go on. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:26am On Feb 15 |
Fiscus105:This is where you see adultery is a capital offence. And like a defective skyscraper every marriage having it has to first be demolished before it MAY be built again. So even if she covers it, it would still blow up once God or devil decides to expose it. And adulteries are always exposed. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by chipet67(m): 9:36am On Feb 15 |
Dtruthspeaker:Wetin concern God for here? |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by paxonel(m): 9:59am On Feb 15 |
Restitution cannot take anyone to heaven. Don't restore anything, Just repent |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Edusouls(m): 10:15am On Feb 15 |
The thing is that most of us humans won’t even smell heaven talkless of making it, cos 95% of humans die with heavy loads of sin, and soul devastating secrets, hell is gaining daily cos it’s expanding with new recruits, and once your recruited in hell you become a permanent member… |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by tctrills: 10:22am On Feb 15 |
Pastorsarynzay:So if you robbed me, you would not return what you stole yet you will claim that you are a new man since restitution is not in your curriculum |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:35am On Feb 15 |
chipet67:Ahan, you no know say God no dey like when people dey hide their sin, especially adultery? |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:50am On Feb 15 |
Pastorsarynzay:Zacchaeus, promised to return fourfold monies he took from people who he cheated |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by sooperrescue(m): 11:05am On Feb 15 |
Decapo:Zaccheaus gave his life to Jesus and gave restitution immediately. It is the only service |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by gabicon: 11:12am On Feb 15 |
cutecommend:You need to be very careful about restitution and who you listen to about the topic. There are many things the blood of Jesus covers as a result of repentance, such things don't require restitution. However there are sins that bring an accusation in the courts of heaven, like the blood of Abel or Saul killing some people, those things require restitution. We have to depend on the spirit of God to know what requires restitution. If a man is telling you to restitute, most times you don't require restitution. Restitution is required to make right accusations in the courts of heaven. Some things can't be restituted like rape, or disvirging under false pretence, in such situations forgiveness is what suffices. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by louken(m): 11:20am On Feb 15 |
If you stole someone's property and you are enjoying the property while the owner of the property is suffering. You now repent. Are you supposed to keep enjoying the property while the owner of the property keeps suffering, or, are you supposed to return the property? Conversely, if you were the owner of a property and someone stole it. Which action would you prefer from the person that stole it? |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Agbaneson: 11:29am On Feb 15 |
If you stole someone's property and you are enjoying the property while the owner of the property is suffering. You now repent. Are you supposed to keep enjoying the property while the owner of the property keeps suffering, or, are you supposed to return the property? |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Agbaneson: 11:30am On Feb 15 |
You must return the stolen property and ask for personal forgiveness |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:36am On Feb 15 |
gabicon:You gave a smart answer however, if read the laws you would see that everything is restituable even if such restitution includes the demand of your death such as the person raped or the husband of your co adulterer may demand Fornication of a virgin does not require restitution because it is not rape. |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by fedorahat: 12:03pm On Feb 15 |
Forgiveness only turns your face back to God. You must pay the price of whatever atrocity you committed , do not think that bybeing saved, whatever you have done you will not pay the price |
| Re: After Genuine Salvation Does Restitution Have Any Relevance In Eternity? by Guestmale: 12:49pm On Feb 15 |
Pastorsarynzay:Not so, restitution is compulsory and biblical after confession where it's necessary to do it. Luke 19:8-9 KJV And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold. [9] And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. Matthew 5:23-24 KJV Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; [24] Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. |
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