₦airaland Forum

free2ryhme:
El rufai will be politically finished

You wish. Tinubu will kiss the dust again, just like in Turkey. If I say someone slept with your wife and told me about it. Are you going to sue me for adultery?

dederocs:
His statements on TV can be used against him...it is up to him to convince the judge.

Stop crying. Didn't you support him in 2023 when he was busy making Tinubu president?

damoobaba:
He has been told to SUBMIT evidence

Lol. Okay, assuming he has no evidence, what's the next move by the DSS? Provide evidence that he did abi?

hotseat:
Once we are able to put our emotions in check, we would be able to examine issues more critically and more dispassionately.

The NSA is not admitting that it indeed import the said poisonous substance but, El-Rufai voluntarily made a confession of tapping the phone lines of the ONSA.

This is an entirely separate offense.

So, he needs to tell the DSS how he, as an individual and a non-state actor, could perform this feat.

He would have to explain in detail whether he operated alone or in company of others.

Most Nigerians don't know the magnitude of the offenses hanging on El-Rufai's neck.


@hotseat

Stop trying to be clever by half. You weren't the only one who watched the interview. Play the part where Elrufai admitted to personally tapping the phone of the NSA. He will plead not guilty and the onus will now lie on the NSA to prove with technical evidence and beyond reasonable doubt, that he did. Elrufai is also a graduate of law from the University of Harvard. He graduated with a first class. No put body o! Person wey pass you don pass you.

Section 36(11) of Nigeria's 1999 Constitution (as amended) provides that no person shall be compelled to give evidence against themselves in a criminal matter.

Translation: Even if I say I bedded your wife, you can't charge me to court and win unless you are able to prove it. I will simply decline to testify against myself. I'll send an invoice later for the legal consultation. It's not free.

Jokay07:

This is inconsequential to the issue here. We all know the skill set requirements to tapping a phone.

you must understand " LAW" relies on a composition of logical processes that " Add up" .. 1st the story must add up for the law to preside.

The NSA had the resources to manufacture an evidence in their favour. And since Elrufai didn't say anything about the time and which phone was hacked, yes they can present any hacked phone in court.

You are not following the Story, The Dss have made a statement The NSA never ordered the arrest of El - rufai, now will Ribadu put himself in a position to admit he gave the order
Ribadu must 1st admit he gave the order and prove he did it over the phone ... before El - rufai claim can be admissible, cos he could have lied

El Rufai has already made himself component by coming on air to make that statement. He has has set himself up.

Yeah, Buh from basis of Fact He only alleged a 3rd party gave him that info, meaing he is not directly liable by his release and i repeat no court has power to force him to release his source .. Ask any lawyer you think that dwarf is stewpid to incriminate himself , more like a banana peel

No, you are wrong here sir. The office of NSA is a very sensitive one. When it comes to national security, rule of law can take a back seat. The case Edward Snowden came to mind. You might want to read up the story.

The office of the NSA is sensitive one, Buh will you tell that to boko haram or bandit, do you know russia is always tryin to America, that the NSA phone can be tapped tells a story of our vulnerability, our security systems are weak , few months ago a GEn. rescue message was intercepted and he got killed. You dont blame the criminals.. Its our security fault

Where rule of law takes back seat, bro then there is no court. if you say El rufai is guilty by virtue of the law then it is illofical to say Rule of law will take back seat. So where will the prosecution come from... Baba sope

This must be a typographical error from you.
Wire tapping the phone of National Security Adviser has nothing to do with national security?

Bro, the information El rufai release can you connect it to any insecurity challenge in the country in the past 1yrs In court you dont just talk like it is mushin market, if you allege sumtin you must prove or connect the dot

And yes, tapping the phone of a national security adviser is a huge national security risk. It can expose super sensitive info like military plans, diplomatic strategies, and intelligence sources. If that info gets out, it could mess with national defense, international relations, and even put lives in danger. Plus, it can create serious trust issues inside the government.

☺️ Bro what you said remains Invalid ... until NSA Ribadu admit he make a call, 1 then he must admit he gave an order for el rufai arrest 2. Only then we can validate if a breach was commited
Then we move to how we can connect or prove El rufai did it or hired someone to

Please let's be serious here

Honestly i wish any lawyer in the house or folake4u can step in and tell me i am the most ignorant person on earth on this

LibertyRep:
Regardless of how anyone wants to spin it, that statement was tactless and careless.

He shouldn't have said it

lol. not tactless nor careless, that short devil know exactly what he is doing .
politics is a game of intrigue, but don't bother yourselves because the master strategist know the game of Nigeria politics more better than the midget.

Delat521:
Hi

Why unano dey you your head abeg. If govt is wiretapping those that give you authority to do the same. Infact is by that admission and analogy that make him really stupid.

How on earth will u be doing something extremely illegal tapping a whole NSA phone and be saying nonsensical things that govt. is also doing it as an excuse. Though I watched the interview it wan the anchor that really putting in that tight corner and because he's daft he took the bait.

And look at your own stupidity on display that he corner the govt. with that yeye statement. I bet you he s going to prison for that. Is height of lawlessness at display. Even US govt wiretap for wide security surveillance of it's citizens. So what is bad about that, but individual cannot do that politics aside. Is totally illegal.

He's been saying rubbish all this while but the FG ingored him, he's now over stepping his boundary and he will be dealt without any fucking iorta of thing gonna happen.

So, for your mind now the nonsense you wrote made sense, abi?
In a sane society, everybody is under the law equally, be it an individual or government. That's the reason you need an arrest warrant signed by a competent court before making an arrest, even though you're a security official with many ranks and laurels as heavy as that of Idi Amin. Before wiretapping an individual, the government security outfit must get clearance and perform due diligence so as not to break the law.

You see this our Nigeria, we are like a zoo without due process and accountability. A government agent can choose to wiretape an individual of particular interest as they like, especially when the individual is a political enemy to the government.

You gave a blind eye to Peter Obi's case when he was wiretapped and now you're crying wolf. Thunder wey go fire una still dey do press-up to gather muscle.
Nonsense

Delat521:
He is complicit and he must provide the person and they will be charge together, what sort of nosense I will tolerating in this country in the name of politics.

This arrant nosense ought to condemned by all.

Eeyah ! he be like naa You go be judge over the matter You guyz just talk as though we are in Monarch or military system ...

Do you know the kind of information sahara reporter leak online, have you ever see one court force sahara to give up there source ...its not even only in Nigeria

what goes around come around, Who tapped Peter obi call to PApa Oyedepo and who were the beneficiary of that news to discredit Peter obi as Religious bigot.

Uncle you are not serious at All, i will tell you why ... No be this country a Gen sent his rescue location and it was intercepted which got the Gen. Killed ... what did Nig. Military NSA do on that discovery

If America loose guard on security you think enemies wont have finish America, you dont go about blaming the criminal cos your own optimal security is in your hand

iNfact Nigerians should be bombarding the NSA with loads of question, it means our security firewall is wack we have to start working on now.

Fakeagbado:
He wants them to arrest him

Yes, but not on this grounds. He shot himself in the groin when he blabbed on TV. Now his game has backfired on him.

donself9:
Honestly i wish any lawyer in the house or folake4u can step in and tell me i am the most ignorant person on earth on this

Go back and edit your response so that I can respond

Fakeagbado:
He wants them to arrest him

There's nothing like "he wants them to arrest him"
He goofed, simple.
Let's not spin it around too much

donself9:
Eeyah ! he be like naa You go be judge over the matter You guyz just talk as though we are in Monarch or military system ...

Do you know the kind of information sahara reporter leak online, have you ever see one court force sahara to give up there source ...its not even only in Nigeria

what goes around come around, Who tapped Peter obi call to PApa Oyedepo and who were the beneficiary of that news to discredit Peter obi as Religious bigot.

Uncle you are not serious at All, i will tell you why ... No be this country a Gen sent his rescue location and it was intercepted which got the Gen. Killed ... what did Nig. Military NSA do on that discovery

If America loose guard on security you think enemies wont have finish America, you dont go about blaming the criminal cos your own optimal security is in your hand

iNfact Nigerians should be bombarding the NSA with loads of question, it means our security firewall is wack we have to start working on now.

Most of your response are not issues based. And you keep bringing many unrelated examples.
If Sahara reporter has hacked any phone, will thry come out to say it?

Heffalump:
So, for your mind now the nonsense you wrote made sense, abi?
In a sane society, everybody is under the law equally, be it an individual or government. That's the reason you need an arrest warrant signed by a competent court before making an arrest, even though you're a security official with many ranks and laurels as heavy as that of Idi Amin. Before wiretapping an individual, the government security outfit must get clearance and perform due diligence so as not to break the law.

You see this our Nigeria, we are like a zoo without due process and accountability. A government agent can choose to wiretape an individual of particular interest as they like, especially when the individual is a political enemy to the government.

You gave a blind eye to Peter Obi's case when he was wiretapped and now you're crying wolf. Thunder wey go fire una still dey do press-up to gather muscle.
Nonsense

Una reason is always upside down. Every happening must be wrapped around Peter Obi. Tell me did anyone come out and claimed he wiretaped Obi? And is Obi FG then.

Somebody was confidently saying on national tv they wiretaped NSA for that matter. At least even he said they are doing against Gaduje or any other high ranking politicians etc at least still okay, but all NSA, I bet you he will be detained, charged and probably send to jail for this.

If you like tell your Peter Obi to make him his VP so that he can win coming election in 2027.

Jokay07:
Most of your response are not issues based. And you keep bringing many unrelated examples.
If Sahara reporter has hacked any phone, will thry come out to say it?

What is the issue about and what am i speaking about .. There is no case without history or reference

Hacked of phone falls under " Breach of Privacy" .. most times we have see Sahara reporters released classified document, wait do you even know the meaning of classified document

Phone tap is just one of many ways to breach Privacy, if give an example of hacked email does mean i am speaking out of line

please get exposed, read more for improve understanding

Jokay07:
Go back and edit your response so that I can respond

Tell me what you want me to subtract, cos i dont have anything to add

This is fake

I always thought Elrufai was a senior intelligent man until he wire-tapped an NSA of a natipn and squealed on national tv about it.

donself9:
What is the issue about and what am i speaking about .. There is no case without history or reference
Hacked of phone falls under " Breach of Privacy" .. most times we have see Sahara reporters released classified document, wait do you even know the meaning of classified document

Phone tap is just one of many ways to breach Privacy, if give an example of hacked email does mean i am speaking out of line

please get exposed, read more for improve understanding

You are digging yourself deeper and you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
You can't be defending someone who came on national tv to claim that the phone that belongs to a National security adviser has been hacked and you will still be quoting "BREACH OF PRIVACY"

If you're to represent ElRufai in court, you will end up getting him minimum of 20 years in jail (that's if the judge is kind) .

Putinofrussia:
I always thought Elrufai was a senior intelligent man until he wire-tapped an NSA of a natipn and squealed on national tv about it.

That is thd point.
He allowed emotions to get hold of himself.

He might even not be directly involved in hacking of the phone but coming on National tv to announce it? He goofed.

If he truly have access to the information coming from the hacked phone, he would have used it to his own personal advantage.
Instead of him to shut up, he went on air rambling

Jokay07:
That is thd point.
He allowed emotions to get hold of himself.

He might even not be directly involved in hacking of the phone but coming on National tv to announce it? He goofed.

If he truly have access to the information coming from the hacked phone, he would have used it to his own personal advantage.
Instead of him to shut up, he went on air rambling

The thing really amazed me.

Any evidence obtained through illegal wiretapping is generally inadmissible in court under the Evidence Act and victims of unauthorized wiretapping can sue for violation of their fundamental right to privacy as guaranteed under Section 37 of the 1999 Constitution of Nigeria.
Also knowing a wiretap has occurred and participating in it or assisting the offender can also lead to separate criminal charges.
Elrufai don buy market with his leaking vessel.

AMINDA:
Stop crying. Didn't you support him in 2023 when he was busy making Tinubu president?

Am not a sycophant for politicians like you.

AMINDA:
So the admission by Reno Omokri that Tinubu is a drug baron and a criminal cannot be used by the courts to exonerate Sowore abi? Elrufai has a law degree from Harvard and he's an "A" student. There's nothing you can tell him about law that he does not know. Once he pleads not guilty, the onus will be on DSS to prove that he did. He will floor Tinubu and his water carriers in court.

This is a different case entirely...who sued Reno?

ogascomax:
Not enough in a law court. They are to prove that he did it. If he said he did not do it. How did they proved he did it if he says he didn't.

Same thing Kanu thought, I don't know the kind of law school you went to,

AMINDA:
Lol. Okay, assuming he has no evidence, what's the next move by the DSS? Provide evidence that he did abi?

He will go to jail. I'm already seeing beyond his jail term though. Somebody they want to set on fire that's now pouring petrol on his own body. All they'll try to do in the North is to create INSECURITY problems they can't do worse than they're doing currently in terms of insecurity. Tinubu is putting efforts to end HARDCORE ISLAM in the North. People like Elrufai and Malami are disciples of Buhari who want to continue the expansion of the caliphate but people like Tinubu will not let that happen.

On the other side, with Tinubu's current relationship with certain political blocks in the North, I think he will pick up considerable votes from the north in 2027. Southeastern votes is just a DOT VOTES but he'll pick up votes from the east as well.

Jokay07:
You are digging yourself deeper and you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
You can't be defending someone who came on national tv to claim that the phone that belongs to a National security adviser has been hacked and you will still be quoting "BREACH OF PRIVACY"

If you're to represent ElRufai in court, you will end up getting him minimum of 20 years in jail (that's if the judge is kind) .

So what is it, You want to catch El rufai with the law BUT you dont want to go through "trial".. the law should take the back seat very funny guy

Do you know if shoot someone now, everyone saw me na me kill ... I stand a trial and people must come as witness to attest i killed
The prosecutor wil still ask me standard questions that how the Law & court work

Citing National threat does not mean you will just catch the offender bundle him to firing squad n wipe him out,

Having an NSA that is apolitical and identify openly with APC is an abberation on the office sef, his score card says it


there are processes, there are questions n answers on the path to justice


Like they mock Nigerians, APC please go to court

donself9:
So what is it, You want to catch El rufai with the law BUT you dont want to go through "trial".. the law should take the back seat very funny guy

Do you know if shoot someone now, everyone saw me na me kill ... I stand a trial and people must come as witness to attest i killed
The prosecutor wil still ask me standard questions that how the Law & court work

Citing National threat does not mean you will just catch the offender bundle him to firing squad n wipe him out,

Having an NSA that is apolitical and identify openly with APC is an abberation on the office sef, his score card says it


there are processes, there are questions n answers on the path to justice


Like they mock Nigerians, APC please go to court

Lolz.
This your response and final paragraph shows that you are inclined to the political aspect of it and that might be the reason why you have refused to understand my points all along or influence your line of thoughts.

What we are discussing is issue based, not political party stuff.

Jokay07:
Lolz.
This your response and final paragraph shows that you are inclined to the political aspect of it and that might be the reason why you have refused to understand my points all along or influence your line of thoughts.

What we are discussing is issue based, not political party stuff.

perhaps you were born yesterday, Is there anything that happens around govt that is void of politics, Na Nigeria, a country politician even go to church collect mic nd throw political jabs
iGnorance is not an excuse, The man in aso rock plays politics with everything ..

On this matter of NSA, reno, onanuga have made statements ahead of Ribadu, Bro there is no other angle to it than politics ... the way Dss acted & storm the airport to kidnap rufai you think thats not politics

What is issued based, lets even you are on issue base .. Does it negate trial processes does it change anything about how the law rise to justice

They can't just throw El rufai into jail ... They must go to court, i am just preping you ahead possible scenerios & outcome

nuttin is new bro, Politics n law have one key thats history/reference

dederocs:
Same thing Kanu thought, I don't know the kind of law school you went to,

El Rufai is not Kanu Na, you should know better. El Rufai is a northern assets. Just know that.

soojar:
Have you heard of the phrase "anything you say will be used against you in the court of law"?

There is no evidence greater than self confession, especially when done willingly without coercion, watched live by millions of people.



We learn every day

It doesn't prove a thing... My words of mouth can still change

ogascomax:
El Rufai is not Kanu Na, you should know better. El Rufai is a northern assets. Just know that.

So you are talking politics not law...this is why Nigeria can't move forward because of sycophants, who see everything in the eyes of politics.