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| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by lawani(m): 8:53am On Feb 16 |
WhizdomXX:Have you done a proper census? Igbos stay in markets and are therefore more conspicuous while Yoruba are more of artisans, professionals and etc. Take a section of the city, places of work, churches, school attendance and etc and do a small census and then publish it. I am not saying it is not possible though but do a research and publish it. School is where everybody converge. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by Takara: 11:44am On Feb 16 |
If course Muslims outnumber Christians in Nigeria. Nigerians largely vote on religious/ethnic interests. I said largely not wholly. Of course there are exceptions. But election in many cases reflect demographics. If you believe Christians are more in number in Nigeria please tell any Christian candidate (e.g Obi) to pick a Christian running mate and watch how it will end! |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by lawani(m): 12:54pm On Feb 16 |
Takara:Nobody can be sure of which is more unless you count. Many people have pointed out that Awo would have won with a Christian Christian ticket had Azikiwe not contested. A Northern Christian with Southern Christian vice can win elections in the country. So there is no finality on the matter. NW is highly populated and it is majority Muslim. That is the only edge and against that SS and SE are almost entirely Christian. SW and NW are like half of the population and between them it will be majority Muslim, NC, NE, SS and SE together will throw up majority Christian. So unless you count, you can not know for sure |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 6:11pm On Feb 16 |
Neoteny:In Nigeria, the term "genocide" is frequently used by advocacy groups and some international political figures to describe the mass killings and displacement of predominantly Christian farming communities in the North-Central (Middle Belt) and parts of Northern Nigeria. While mainstream international bodies like the UN often classify these as "terrorist insurgencies" or "communal conflicts," monitoring groups have documented high-casualty figures and systematic patterns of violence. Key Statistics (2009 – 2025) Total Christian Deaths: Estimates vary, but major reports cite between 50,000 and 125,000 Christians killed since the insurgency began in 2009. Recent Lethality (2025): Approximately 7,000 Christians were reported killed in 2025 alone, averaging roughly 30 to 35 deaths per day. Global Context: Nigeria accounted for roughly 72% of all Christians martyred worldwide between October 2024 and September 2025. Destruction of Property: Over 19,000 churches and Christian schools have been attacked or destroyed since 2009. Displacement: Between 3.5 million and 5 million Nigerians are internally displaced due to extremist violence. Primary Actors & Regional Impact The violence is driven by a mix of ideological and economic factors across different regions: Boko Haram & ISWAP (North East): These groups primarily target state actors and moderate Muslims, but also engage in the systematic kidnapping and execution of Christians who refuse to convert. Fulani Militants (North Central/Middle Belt): Often cited as the most lethal actor against farming communities, these groups are responsible for more than half of the documented Christian civilian deaths. In June 2025, a single massacre in Yelwata village, Benue State, resulted in over 200 deaths. Banditry (North West): While often driven by economic motives like illegal mining and cattle rustling, these groups have increasingly coordinated with jihadist affiliates, such as IS-Sahel, making attacks more lethal. International and Legal Status Global Terrorism Index (GTI): Nigeria ranked 6th globally in the 2025 GTI due to the high impact of terrorism. U.S. Designation: In November 2025, Nigeria was designated a "Country of Particular Concern" by the U.S. government due to ongoing religious persecution. Genocide Watch: The organization Genocide Watch has issued a "Genocide Emergency" for Nigeria, describing the situation as a "killing field". Conflict Drivers Factor Description Ideology Systematic religious cleansing and forced conversions by Boko Haram and ISWAP. Resource Scarcity Desertification driving northern herders into southern farmlands, leading to violent land disputes. Criminality Kidnapping-for-ransom and illegal gold mining funding arms purchases for extremist groups. Say I agree with you that it's not a genocide, what do you call the killings? |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 6:13pm On Feb 16 |
lawani:Thank you but this means North Central is more populated than North East? Hmmm, interesting. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 6:16pm On Feb 16 |
lawani:About the market own, you got me for Ughelli and Warri this were my main mode of statistic. Among the professionals in Warri and Sapele, Yorubas are more. But for Ughelli because Delta igbos are many here too) I am willing to put my money down, if not for the whole 3 cities. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by Neoteny(m): 8:15pm On Feb 16 |
WhizdomXX:I don't read ChatGPT copy/paste, so I'll just respond to the bolded statement as it's the essence of this discourse: WhizdomXX:I'll call them killings. That's all Muslims are disproportionately the victims of bandits, ISWAP and boko haram precisely because these criminals operate largely in the Northwest and Northeast. I don't know how victims killed in Kebbi, Jigawa, Kano, Katsina, Gombe, Zamfara, Kaduna, Yobe, Borno, Adamawa, and Sokoto are now suddenly Christians. Yes, there are killings occasionally in Benue and Plateau, but these are just 2 states. And in Plateau, there's no systematic killing of people because of religion: it's about land and farming and grazing, with endless reprisals between the actors. In Benue, even intra-communal and inter-ethnic killings are tagged as Jihadism. While not downplaying the unjustified killings of christians in parts of the middle belt, the majority of murders occur in Muslim-dominated states in the North and this fact is indisputable. Besides, the criminals don't even discriminate and attack everyone they can get their hands on Check the photos of the latest Kwara victims: it's a mix of Muslims and Christians. So I ask again: where's the genocide against Christians? |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 10:42pm On Feb 16 |
Neoteny:The genocide is bring perpetrated by Islamic terrorists who scream allahu akbar, alhamdullilah while killing people and threaten to introduce a more radical version of Islam. Don't you see the lines. It's a genocide against Christains and less radical Muslims why should a Christain be killed for such and you just term it killings, It's a jihad, if not a genocide. I'm sad that you don't see the error in just calling it killings. Sadly, many hypocritical Muslims don't want to come out to criticize it, instead their criticism is on Christains who call it a genocide when they themselves are being killed more disproportionately, like it's a battle of who is dying more! May Jesus heal your soul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDCuSdrKClE
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| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by 123papas(m): 12:42am On Feb 17 |
You should care cos two wrongs don’t make a right. Religion is the problem here. maasoap: |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by Neoteny(m): 4:39am On Feb 17 |
WhizdomXX:They shout Allahu Akbar even when killing Muslims. It simply means "God is great". Saying it doesn't automatically make it a genocide, nor a jihad. They even yell it when burning vehicles. If they introduce a more radical version of Islam in the northern states, then it's the Muslims who'll still largely be under their yoke. Except if your argument still suggests that Sokoto, Zamfara, Katsina, Kebbi, Jigawa, Kano, Kaduna, Adamawa, Yobe are all Christian states. You also have not explained how it's a genocide or jihad against Christians when the victims are in Muslim-dominated states. I don't understand how that math works. They attack people in mosques....yet it's a genocide against Christians. They attack people in livestock markets...yet it's a genocide against Christians. In the last 2 months of near-daily attacks how many occurred in Plateau or Benue or any part of the south? You people cannot concoct a tale out of thin air and expect anyone to fall for it. Just because the unhinged Trump is playing to the gallery pretending to give a hoot about Christians doesn't make your stories true. Many Christians are being slaughtered in South Sudan but Trump doesn't care. Rid yourself of your delusions |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by lawani(m): 8:11am On Feb 17 |
WhizdomXX:Yes of course. Even without a census just compare their cities. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by lawani(m): 8:21am On Feb 17 |
WhizdomXX:You see what I mean then? Despite the fact that Igbos control a senatorial district in Delta state, Delta towns and cities can still not be said to clearly have more Igbos than Yorubas. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by mandarin: 9:00am On Feb 17 |
I don't think the first lady made this statement. We have thrashed this on X(twitter), we don't have more Muslims than Christians but the other way round. Among the Yoruba in southwest, a Muslim-Muslim or Christian-Christian ticket at state or national level may not matter because of religious tolerance, plurality and freedom. There are 36 states in Nigeria and FCT. NORTH States with Muslim majority in the North : Sokoto, Zamfara, Kebbi, Katsina, Kano, Bauchi, Borno, Jigawa, Yobe, States with Muslim majority but with significant Christian population above 25% : Gombe, Niger, Kwara Christian dominated states : Benue, Taraba, Plateau States with more balanced population of Christian and Muslim(i.e. you need census to know actual figures): Adamawa, Nasarawa, Kogi ,Kaduna. SOUTH States with Christian dominated population are : Ekiti, Ondo, Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, River, Akwa- Ibom, Cross River, Imo, Abia, Ebonyi, Enugu, Anambra States with more balanced population of Christian and Muslim(i.e. you need census to know actual figures) : Osun, Oyo States with Christian domination but with significant Muslim population: Ogun, Lagos Note: For the Muslim dominated states of Bauchi, Borno and Kebbi there are at least over 15% Christians who are indigenous of those states. There is no way Muslims can be more, the argument has always been the population of the Northwest region with dominant Muslim population which will collapse in the face of biometric enabled census. Even with the estimated census based on the 2006, Christians would be more. Talking about biometrics enabled census, the most populous state in the north by far is Kano which may be around 14million people, this is less than the number of Christians in Lagos and at least 10% of that are Christians and they have small indigenous Christian population. Kaduna that is next say 9millionhas over over 40% Christians. This leaves Jigawa, Sokoto, Zamfara, Kebbi, Bauchi, Yobe and Borno as the Muslim dominated states. Logically, there is no way Muslims can be in majority and I do hope someday, a biometric enabled census will happen and the outcome will shock many. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by lawani(m): 9:59am On Feb 17 |
mandarin:How is Osun not Christian dominated when more than half of Osun are from Ijesa and Ife? Where is the population in Osun outside Ijesa and Ife? If no allocations then majority of Osun revenue will come from Ijesa and Ife. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 11:55am On Feb 17 |
Hi Neoteny:You want redefine jihad the way you redefined genocide because its affecting two groups. Failed bro, try again.
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| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 11:56am On Feb 17 |
lawani:The northerners say they stay in villages more than the cities than other regions. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 11:59am On Feb 17 |
lawani:Sapele, igbos will still be more. For Warri, the oil and gas sector skewed it in the professional aspect(more Yorubas in o & g), but of the population that reside in Warri, igbos will still be more overall, I'm quite sure. Also, many Yorubas here are usually half itsekiri too. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by mechanics(m): 1:44pm On Feb 17 |
Because Muslims are more does not justify the decision of her husband to take a Muslim candidate as vice president. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by lawani(m): 2:57pm On Feb 17 |
WhizdomXX:Obviously yes. How many known cities in Kano of 20 million people? Only metropolitan Kano and the population is not up to 5 million. Compare with Oyo state that has Ibadan, Ogbomosho and Oyo as big cities |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by lawani(m): 3:00pm On Feb 17 |
WhizdomXX:You may be right. If you have time, take a census of about ten classrooms in public schools in Sapele. The results will give an idea of the demography. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 3:57pm On Feb 17 |
lawani:So cities like jos and makurdi may be populated compared to maiduguri and bauchi but internal towns and villages may tilt the scale. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by lawani(m): 4:08pm On Feb 17 |
WhizdomXX:Maiduguri has always been rated higher than both. I however don't know about currently. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 4:58pm On Feb 17*. Modified: 8:56pm On Feb 17 |
lawani:Exactly. Then how does the northcentral top the northeast? |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by lawani(m): 5:04pm On Feb 17 |
WhizdomXX:I never said the Northeast is ahead of the North Central. Abuja alone added 4 million to the North Central. The North Central is clearly ahead of the Northeast by population and GDP size. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by WhizdomXX(m): 8:57pm On Feb 17 |
lawani:Apologies, I have modified. Haha that is it F.C.T, I totally forgot. Eureka. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by BAILMONEY: 9:51pm On Feb 17 |
TossTos:Is Nigeria a Christian country before ![]() |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by Akpakomiza2: 11:28pm On Feb 17 |
lawani:40% of SW is Muslim, 55% of north central is muslims.65% of ne |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by Akpakomiza2: 11:29pm On Feb 17 |
Eriokanmi:Oyo is 60% Muslims, osun 55%. Lagos 35% |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by AlphaTaikun: 8:44am On Feb 18 |
lawani:Nicely put. The Ebiras of Kogi however are overwhelmingly Muslims although I have a couple of very brilliant Ebiras associates that I have known for over 50 years now who are NOT Muslims. The Igalas also have a significant number of Muslims. However the Kogi State Yorubas (Okuns) are LARGELY adherents of Ifa and Christianity. I've never seen or heard of even one Muslim among the Okuns. Just to add my thoughts on the religious inclinations of Yoruba folks in the 1800s, in my many decades of studyinh advanced archival materials on Yoruba history of the last 500 years (from books such as the "History of the Yorubas" by Reverend Samuel Johnson who is Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther's cousin via Alaafin Abiodun of the Oyo Empire), Balogun Oderinlo of Ibadan who was one of the MOST respected Ibadan military commanders that defeated the combined Fula attack in 1830 (there were also Ilorin Yoruba and Hausa Muslims who took part in the attack on Osogbo), was actually a practicing Muslim. It is to the credit of people such as Balogun Oderinlo that many of his fellow Yoruba Muslims stood up to fight the Fula invaders of Yorubaland and defeated them conclusively. The brave Yoruba warriors of Ibadan also defeated the foreign Fula bandits at Otun-Ekiti and they never attempted to attack the Yoruba interior again. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by AlphaTaikun: 8:58am On Feb 18 |
mandarin:I like the way you broke down your analyses here. However, British Colonial population censuses and demographic distribution of Nigerians at my disposal from the late 1800s to 1973 CLEARLY show that Muslims have always been more than Christians. INFACT the adherents of the different indigenous religions spread in the West of Nigeria (Ifa) and the Middle Belt were far MORE than the Christians as of the 1950s. The Christians are just a new religion in Nigeria. Islam has been in Yorubaland for over 500 years now. There were already Muslims in Ekiti as of the 1800s but Ekiti is still largely NOT Muslim as of today same with Ondo State. |
| Re: Muslims Are More Than Christians In Nigeria - Remi Tinubu by stuffs2002: 9:17am On Feb 18 |
Moneyyman:Hypocrisy is when you expect Hausas to present a Northern Christian when Igbos have never presented an Igbo Muslim for presidency The biggest religious bigotry happened in the south east when Igbos voted nearly 100% for Obi just because he is a Christian |
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