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| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by SixSeven: 9:09pm On Feb 16 |
Thank you for this thread. Let me repost this There has been so much confusion over the reportage of this issue and I am so disappointed in the media. It is not electronic voting, it is ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION of results. They have tried to use this confusion to mislead people with e-voting. Is it this NASS that did not allow diaspora to vote that wants to give electronic voting They should start with electronic voting at the Senate first instead of relying on voice vote but these guys we have there now can't. They can never because you can't give what you don't have. Honor is not sold in the market neither is you calling yourself distinguished distinguish you from any cowardly behaviour. The media is doing a bad work in not reporting the issues properly. I have seen people like Reno mislead the public about the issue. The SP too has said some things when he talks down Nigerians the usual way. Nigerians do not vote electronically, the people are saying cut the amount of manual intervention you have in collation. The election process is like this: 1. You register to vote. 2. You get your PVC 3. Before election day, you see your name Ong the list of registered voters 4. On election day, you register to vote (this is called accreditation) where the PO confirms that you are on the list of registered voters and it is not someone else 5. You cast your ballot secretly. 6. The PO counts the votes, that IS, ALL the paper you voted for, then writes the results. This is where Nigerians want the results to be electronically transmitted. 7. This result is announced and a copy normally should be posted for you at your PU 8. The PO takes the counted result that was signed by the party agents and herself to the collation centre This is where Nigerians saw the magomago. This is why you see the APC guys boast of polling agents. We should be ashamed of ourselves that we need too many people to count votes in 2026. Let me not distract from my essay. Check the quoted post I have below. There are two collation centres. There's ward collation centre and state collation centre. It is at these places counting magic happens. You see all those things the Professors do on TV? They are only counting LG results for each state. They are also checking if there were any other electoral issues that can lead to some results not counted or cancelled. What INEC promised at the last election is that with Irev you can see your PU result live. You can even audit the election result for each ward and do your own counting for the LG. But the APC and their abracadabra manipulated your result. So while you were counting after step 5, they saw the live results, did their own counting and gave you the figures they wanted. That's why INEC announced results of the election at night. That's where you saw numbers changed at Irev portal. If party A had 12, they put 6 in front of it and made it 612. That is why the Irev portal had glitch. The glitch was the fraudulent excuse to tamper with the result, change it and have their own numbers. They had to delay the loading to iRev portal so you won't be able to dispute the results. Only a thief at night steals it, snatches it and runs away with it to announce that the white they stole at nibjt is now Ariel clean in the morning. With electronic transmission, Nigeria will reduce massively how much money we spend on elections. Our elections are only expensive because people simply want to cheat, QED! It's a bloody waste of time recruiting so many people just to count numbers, shey we no de shame? Chai For those of them that bring that useless video of Elon Musk not trusting electronic voting, please read below. They intentionally omitted the part where US does not conduct its election like ours. They work on trust because from birth you already have an ID and government knows when you turn 18. SixSeven: |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Davinity: 9:09pm On Feb 16 |
Let me watch evil people support rubbish |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Tareq1105: 9:11pm On Feb 16 |
Racoon:Real time transmission of election results is invitation to El Rufai and his ADC coalifusion members to hack INEC servers. This is what El Rufai meant when he boastfully said Tinubu would come 3rd in the 2027 election. We don't want transmission of election results. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by ogolemati: 9:12pm On Feb 16 |
one of the reasons why you don't give Satan a chance in your life is because it's difficult to cast him out.he doesn't leave easily.thats the case with nigerians. they gave Satan and his demons chance now to chase them away is very difficult
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| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by SixSeven: 9:14pm On Feb 16 |
DeepSight:You still need the paper trail but the reason why we are transmitting it is that the timestamp of the transmitted copy serves as full protection for the numbers and when they compare this to the paper copy, they can tell if it has been manipulated. By now INEC should have a system that can tabulate the results PU by PU, ward by ward and LG by LG. It is 2027 for God sake. This was the disingenuous thing Reno Omokri avoided. He claimed the US stations can tell their own results but he didn't tell us why and how they could. The TV stations don't manufacture results. They can all read from a portal publicly available. That's why they can tell the results before the electoral body there officially declares the results. This is why Jonathan could concede even before Mr Jega had finished the exercise. APC just wants to rig, simple |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Jayhome24: 9:15pm On Feb 16 |
Keep crying with your illusional Nigrians we don't know. May be you are calling on Nigeriians living in the space I don't know. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by ogolemati: 9:16pm On Feb 16 |
Tareq1105: never give Satan and his demons chance in your life,it's very difficult to chase them away.check this out
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| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by bahaushe1: 9:21pm On Feb 16 |
Vifx:Thank you. All aspects of our election are done manually, except accreditation. Why should someone then be talking about electronic transmission and virtual collation of data manually generated data? The second point that most of these so called activists don't seem to understand is that the results generated at a polling unit is subject to verification at ward collation level and if discrepancies are found the PO is asked to reconcile his submission. How can this be done virtually? What the agitators should be asking for is electronic voting, not electronic transmission of results. With electronic voting, one needs no manual collation. But as long as election data are generated manually, collation must also be manual. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by DeepSight(m): 9:21pm On Feb 16 |
SixSeven:+ Fair analysis. I was just responding to the chap trying to clam printing will be expensive. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by target007(m): 9:27pm On Feb 16 |
Even if Obi wins, He cannot change Nigeria. He does not have the capacity. Though, an Igbo would have become the president which is what Igbo wants. I wish Nigeria well. I would have preferred a 7 year one term rotational presidency in a quasi presidential and parliamentary type of system in Nigeria. This will help to deliver a working system fulfilling the yearning of regional/states confederacy and also balance the perceptiveness of marginalisation which is the main reason crippling the developmental efforts of governments over the years. I hope that we have a leader who can be able to bring about this changes. Else, l cannot guarantee Nigeria will be out of this cyclical situation in 50 years. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by sailor2011(m): 9:37pm On Feb 16 |
LoL...nothing like real time transmission in naija , a lot of things could go wrong on that day , hackers on standby , network glitch , poor internet connectivity , malfunctioning devices, etc ... If elections results are contested in courts , total invalidation of results not transmitted Real time will be canvassed....That will not happen....The Government in power will never allow that to happen , So , deal with it |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Bluntemperor: 9:40pm On Feb 16 |
Vifx:You made a beautiful Statement,which Others are just perambulating 👍👏. Real Time = Real Transmission of Voters Results, So we have Problems here,no matter how good the Voting may be! |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by blaise26abj(m): 9:41pm On Feb 16 |
I have a question . What if on Election Day there is bad network ( happens during our elections ) , if there is no alternative to real time transmission , what will happen ? Politicians can be really desperate to point of jamming network or destroying network stations in areas their opponents are strong . Is there a way out if such a scenario comes up and it is widespread ? |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Queseda: 9:42pm On Feb 16 |
1.Does the electronically transmitted result play any role in the actual collation of results? 2. If hackers gain access to the servers and alter any of the results, how do you resolve this discrepancy? If your answer is to resort back to the results in the form EC8, then what is the fuss about the electronic transmission? 3. If you agree with (2) and still argue that electronic transmission ensures electoral integrity, then you don’t know what you’re doing 4. If results in the EC8 are altered, the only way to resolve it is to crosscheck the copies of the results submitted to the police and party agents, so where does the transmitted results play any role significant role in collation of the final results? #Copied |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by johannu(m): 9:44pm On Feb 16 |
Electronic transmission of NONSENSE (scanned copies of election results) In addition to uploading the scanned copies of election results, there should be a way to enter the raw data of election results. Having the raw data would allow for easy tabulation and summation of election results. Imagine a supermarket where they upload scanned copies of payment receipts without entering the actual figures into the system. That's utter RUBBISH. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Whois(m): 10:01pm On Feb 16 |
Real time in this context means immediately after conclusion of elections We're demanding that the INEC Presiding officers in each polling units should snap and upload the election results to the portal Vifx: |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by johannu(m): 10:02pm On Feb 16 |
Vifx:That is to tell you that most Nigerians don't know what real time means. What they should be asking for are: 1. Transmission of the Bimodal Voter Accreditation System (BVAS) records to the IREV portal. 2. Inputting of election results in figures to the IREV portal. This would allow for easy tabulation and summation of results. 3. Uploading of scanned result sheets immediately after the announcement of election results. 4. Uploading of video recordings of the announcement of election results. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by adem30: 10:06pm On Feb 16*. Modified: 4:07pm On Mar 05 |
Most people shouting real time transition do not understand what real time transition really means. We are not voting electronically, there fore there is no where real-time transition of result is applicable here |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by AMI3(m): 10:11pm On Feb 16 |
Heffalump:This is not about the opposition party it is about we the electorates because we will have power over the politicians. Reasonable people will be contested knowing fully well their vote will be counted Criminals will not elected to rule us because our votes is our power. If a politician fail to perform next coming election we vote such person out. The choice is our hands to use this opportunity to demand for real time transmission after all it our right and tax money. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by AMI3(m): 10:16pm On Feb 16 |
bahaushe1:Why are u against it are u the one contesting or u benefits from this government. This government will come and go. PDP introduce BVAS NIN BVN TELL ME WHAT INITIATIVE THIS GOVERNMENT HAVE BROUGHT? WE CAN GET IT RIGHT IF WE DON'T START TODAY. WHAT IS THE FEAR. U HAVE ALL THE GOVERNOR'S, THE LEGISLATOR'S IN UR POCKET AND U ART STILL AFRAID |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Omalicious1: 10:17pm On Feb 16 |
Racoon:How can Nigerians insist on real-time transmission? |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Racoon(op): 10:22pm On Feb 16 |
ebuk4real:It is really nauseating I tell you. Very useless band of criminals.
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| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Guestmale: 10:37pm On Feb 16 |
Now that people have audacity of tapping NSA phone,the integrity of any e transmission of election results in 2027 is highly suspicious. I will implore all serious political parties to get trusted polling agents to represent them at all pooling booth because Form EC8A will still remain the most reliable and verifiable source of evidence during post election court cases come 2027. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by CommonSense1967: 10:51pm On Feb 16 |
PDPdestroyer:Thank you for tha brilliant observation. This noise is all about looking for excuse to use after the election. Nigerian vote on paper ballot, so are they supposed to transmit once each person cast their vote or what? The only logical way is for the polling officers to collate the votes after the voting period and transmit it to the IREV which is already part of the law. What they are trying to do is to make it sound like if anything goes wrong with transmission then the election must have been rigged. These are nothing but already sore losers. They can see the handwriting on the wall already. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Heffalump(m): 10:55pm On Feb 16*. Modified: 9:23am On Feb 17 |
AMI3:This is the only way to deepen democracy in Nigeria and hold political office holders accountable. You'll see how the country will be transformed overnight. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by benardtotti(m): 11:08pm On Feb 16 |
Heffalump:Telling opposition to call on western powers is dead on arrival cos western countries dont do electronic voting or transfers . |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by AMI3(m): 11:24pm On Feb 16 |
Heffalump:Yes exactly the politicians will be caution of what they do |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Guestmale: 12:33am On Feb 17 |
Zionmdde:How can we guarantee the integrity of election e transmission when we already have some political actors confessing openly to tapping of NSA phone, then the fear of hacking of INEC server can't be ignored.Form EC8A may still remain the only verifiable and reliable source of evident in the post election court cases come 2027. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Guestmale: 12:45am On Feb 17 |
Queseda:Very correct.Simple as abc , but some people just like to propagate anything their political heroes said or supported without careful examination. |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Die009: 3:43am On Feb 17 |
I remember there ince server wahala dat time they are shouting Inec server |
| Re: Why We( Nigerians) Must Insist On Real Time Transmission Of Results by Goldforever: 4:52am On Feb 17 |
Sometimes many Nigerians love to just waste their time on things they already know the truth. Peter obi and his senseless followers thinks they are smart. If it comes to buying everything possible to win an election how can they out spend the ruling party? In terms of hiring tech gurus to rig. Do you people think the president is a senseless like you guys? Do you know that rigging is one thing that Peter obi benefited from to became a governor and also his second tenure. Also the kangaroo LG election he organised 2 months before he existed as governor. And the election that brought obiano. Peter is the highest rigger as far as election malpractices are concerned. Peter obi is living under a curse he brought to himself. So people should stop wasting their time but ask him to go back Anambra people APGA to apologise and ask for forgiveness than coming out and thinking he can manipulate people. Until he is able to do that first . Peter Obi betrayed himself and denied himself politically. He will keep crying and wasting his occultic money . Anambra people gave Peter the chance but he messed Anamvra up big time and thing Nigeria is Anambra. |
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They should start with electronic voting at the Senate first instead of relying on voice vote but these guys we have there now can't. They can never because you can't give what you don't have. Honor is not sold in the market neither is you calling yourself distinguished distinguish you from any cowardly behaviour.
Na professor go de count numbers. Agbaya people. Simple thing, dem turn am to billions. Big disgrace.