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Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by soojar(m): 1:28am On Feb 18
Orlandoo:
So that people who are bribed with money will be determining the party flag bearers. Tinubu is a big threat to our democracy.
You may need to sit this one out. Seriously, you don't have to comment.



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Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by OredoPikin2: 2:12am On Feb 18
fergie001:
The National Assembly today passed the Electoral Amendment (Repeal) Act 2026 and one of its contentious issues has been Clause 60(3). Whilst protests and pressure from Civil Society Organisations and the opposition pursued a mandatory real-time electronic transmission of results, the ruling party stood its ground for a manual transmission as the primary collation process when the network fails; as they say in a democracy, the minority will have their say, and the majority will have their way.

However, a section that slipped past is a repeal of Section 84(2) of the Electoral Act 2022:
The procedure for the nomination of candidates by political parties for the various elective positions shall be by direct, indirect primaries or consensus.

The recent amendment if signed by the President allows political parties to nominate candidates seeking election only through the direct primary and consensus modes.

The direct primary involves voting by all registered members of the Party at the Ward level and thereafter a Special Convention or Congress held at designated centres to ratify the number of votes as per winners.
The APC used this method in 2018/19 (Buhari), Edo, Lagos and some other States.

The indirect Primary has been the choice of the Peoples Democratic Party in majority of its internal elections since 1999, where delegates are elected at different levels then a Special Convention is held where actual voting for the candidate takes place to determine the candidate.

The consensus mode demands that all cleared aspirants will voluntarily enter into writing their withdrawal letters indicating whom they intend to support or endorse.
The APC used this method in the recent Ekiti and Osun Guber Primaries.
lolz
na everything APC wan they use they rig grin
Tinubu just wan spoil Nigeria kpatakpata.
that was how Sanwo Olu got almost 1million votes in the APC primaries in 2019 in Lagos and in the main election, he nor even see 800k grin
where were the 1million APC members that voted him in the primaries?
what about the 700k that voted Ambode in that primaries?
they didnt change their mind and vote for their party?
imagine a primary producing 1.7million votes for only APC and in the main election, them nor even see half of that vote.
na that rascality Tinubu wan replicate nationally
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by OredoPikin2: 2:20am On Feb 18
soojar:
You may need to sit this one out. Seriously, you don't have to comment.



We learn every day.
go back to Lagos 2019 from APC primaries to the main election
compare figures and stop defending rascality
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by GenFunction: 2:32am On Feb 18
Okayyy they can do this one abi?
What of the IREV portal shii?
Lots of questions mehn.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by soojar(m): 3:23am On Feb 18
OredoPikin2:
go back to Lagos 2019 from APC primaries to the main election
compare figures and stop defending rascality
No pun intended. It just looks like you don't understand what you are commenting on.



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Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by soojar(m): 3:35am On Feb 18
OredoPikin2:
go back to Lagos 2019 from APC primaries to the main election
compare figures and stop defending rascality
Just to quickly point something out though. It is not Tinubu that will conduct primaries for ADC or any other party for that matter.

That clause just gave somebody like Peter Obi a fighting chance in ADC primaries (which in my own opinion, intentional on the part of Tinubu, he wants Obi to win the primaries so ADC can scatter), if ADC now decides to rig the election of their own primaries as you are insinuating that is what happens when you do direct primaries, is it that party we should now trust with national election?

Na why I say e be like say you nor know wetin dey sup be that. nor vex



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Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by professore(m): 3:49am On Feb 18
The direct primary involves voting by all registered members of the Party at the Ward level and thereafter a Special Convention or Congress held at designated centres to ratify the number of votes as per winners.
The APC used this method in 2018/19 (Buhari), Edo, Lagos and some other States.

The indirect Primary has been the choice of the Peoples Democratic Party in majority of its internal elections since 1999, where delegates are elected at different levels then a Special Convention is held where actual voting for the candidate takes place to determine the candidate.

The consensus mode demands that all cleared aspirants will voluntarily enter into writing their withdrawal letters indicating whom they intend to support or endorse.
The APC used this method in the recent Ekiti and Osun Guber Primaries.

Mmm
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by OredoPikin2: 3:52am On Feb 18
soojar:
Just to quickly point something out though. It is not Tinubu that will conduct primaries for ADC or any other party for that matter.

That clause just gave somebody like Peter Obi a fighting chance in ADC primaries (which in my own opinion, intentional on the part of Tinubu, he wants Obi to win the primaries so ADC can scatter), if ADC now decides to rig the election of their own primaries as you are insinuating that is what happens when you do direct primaries, is it that party we should now trust with national election?

Na why I say e be like say you nor know wetin dey sup be that. nor vex



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go back to Lagos 2019 from APC primaries to the main election
compare figures and stop defending rascality.

na there i talk reach
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by seunmsg(m): 4:03am On Feb 18
princeade86:
and who told u they want to do primary that time.
Well, they ended doing an indirect primary that he eventually won.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by Bluntemperor: 4:16am On Feb 18
mach7:
This is a smart move, but will it receive presidential assent?

Direct primaries ensures that there is less pressure from the fear of "delegates" being used by governors to muscle out their opponents. However, the governors seeing the risk here might put pressure on the president to decline assent and seek for a compromise.

On a broader view, this deepens our democracy and takes away the dollarization of party primaries.
Fingers crossed.
I agree with you that ' it deepens Democracy because it has all the Components,
•Direct methods,
•Indirect and
• By Consensus.
That is how DEMOCRACY grows.
God Bless Nigeria.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by soojar(m): 4:18am On Feb 18
OredoPikin2:
go back to Lagos 2019 from APC primaries to the main election
compare figures and stop defending rascality.

na there i talk reach
Do you know what primaries is? or are you saying Obi and Atiku are rascals?

APC can decide to 'annoint' a candidate without doing any election how does that stop ADC from conducting free and fair election within?

You sef try reason where you talk reach na.



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Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by neyop85(m): 5:11am On Feb 18
fergie001:
They have no choice, the President wants it to stay.
It will not affect Governors per se, but those going to the NASS will have some protection.
This would ensure governors support local government autonomy. Smart move by Mr. President.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by OredoPikin2: 5:21am On Feb 18
soojar:
Do you know what primaries is? or are you saying Obi and Atiku are rascals?

APC can decide to 'annoint' a candidate without doing any election how does that stop ADC from conducting free and fair election within?

You sef try reason where you talk reach na.



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Can u explain to me how APC got 1.7million votes during the 2019 governorship primaries (sanwo olu 970k, Ambode 760k)
Then in the main election, APC got less than 800k total

So what happened to the remaining over 900k APC members that voted in that primaries assuming only APC members voted for them in the main election

Now if u have brain, that's the rascality Tinubu is planing to do
Write results and write figures as he likes.
U hear stories of over 10m members have registered to be APC members and u think those are real people?
I pity opposition that is not ready to rig as Tinubu has already planned to
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by ObiPandora: 5:28am On Feb 18
But your Obi as never won an indirect primary to win ticket.

Orlandoo:
So that people who are bribed with money will be determining the party flag bearers. Tinubu is a big threat to our democracy.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by fbabs(m): 5:31am On Feb 18
fergie001:
They supported it because they intend to by-pass their Governors.
The National now determines what it wants for every position.

It is democratic sha! 😂
Lawyer sir

Please explain deeply in full for me as one of your political students
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by ObiPandora: 5:32am On Feb 18
Tales by moonlight
Tenses:
Yes it is but if you remember tinubu used it against Ambode. You have to have billions of stolen naira and a well nurtured grassroot supporters to scale through. tinubu has both.

It might play nicely for Peter Obi though because Obidients go just hijack the register. They will outnumber Atiku's supporters and any other contestant. My opinion.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by soojar(m): 5:37am On Feb 18
OredoPikin2:
Can u explain to me how APC got 1.7million votes during the 2019 governorship primaries (sanwo olu 970k, Ambode 760k)
Then in the main election, APC got less than 800k total

So what happened to the remaining over 900k APC members that voted in that primaries assuming only APC members voted for them in the main election

Now if u have brain, that's the rascality Tinubu is planing to do
Write results and write figures as he likes.
U hear stories of over 10m members have registered to be APC members and u think those are real people?
I pity opposition that is not ready to rig as Tinubu has already planned to
Obviously this discussion is beyond your level.

Do you at all know what primaries is? What concerns Tinubu with primaries in ADC? He will go write results for them there? Why don't you leave APC alone to conduct their primaries the way they want? if they like let them kill themselves to produce a candidate. And let your ADC also conduct their primaries and rig themselves out if they like.

This reply is for the benefit of those that will stumble on gibberish you put up there to let them know you mistakenly 'put mouth' in what you can't comprehend and now you are struggling to make it make sense.


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Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by gare2510(m): 5:39am On Feb 18
Whoever controls the party register wins the direct primaries in addition it is an exposure for opposition because INEC decides which version of the register to honour and who controls INEChuh Last last na go to court go end am, you will still be in court shouting my lord, the other person will be preparing for 2nd term.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by OredoPikin2: 5:41am On Feb 18
soojar:
Obviously this discussion is beyond your level.

Do you at all know what primaries is? What concerns Tinubu with primaries in ADC? He will go write results for them there? Why don't you leave APC alone to conduct their primaries the way they want? if they like let them kill themselves to produce a candidate. And let your ADC also conduct their primaries and rig themselves out if they like.

This reply is for the benefit of those that will stumble on gibberish you put up there to let them know you mistakenly 'put mouth' in what you can't comprehend and now you are struggling to make it make sense.


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Don't beat about the bush and answer my question
Again
Think beyond what u can see
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by soojar(m): 5:44am On Feb 18
OredoPikin2:
Again
Think beyond what u can see
Guy what can you see?

You goofed, simple.

Next time, be sure you know what a discussion is about before you jump on it. If it's beyond you, read, pass.



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Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by OredoPikin2: 5:47am On Feb 18
soojar:
Guy what can you see?

You goofed, simple.

Next time, be sure you know what a discussion is about before you jump on it. If it's beyond you, read, pass.



We learn every day
Lolz
U keep repeating the same thing

Oga again
Think beyond what u can see
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by fbabs(m): 5:52am On Feb 18
fergie001:
Tinubu pushed for it!

It will!
Why sir
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by soojar(m): 5:52am On Feb 18
OredoPikin2:
Lolz
U keep repeating the same thing

Oga again
Think beyond what u can see
Guy, wetin you see? you nor fit talk am.

This is what happens when you want to show that you belong by joining the band wagon, you tend to expose your emptiness.

Next time, if you don't understand, waka pass or wait till they post the reply in your whatsapp group then you can copy from there to paste here.


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Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by Urgent1Million: 6:23am On Feb 18
In as much as we condemn the insensitive actions of the Akpabio-led national assembly and know very well that they ammendment is just so they'd weaken the powers of state governors on party structures, I commend this move to remove indirect primaries.
I believe the president will sign the direct primary mode into law, after all, he used it against Ambode in lagos.
It is more democratic and allows for more transparency.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by Moroccoguy: 6:31am On Feb 18
Orlandoo:
So that people who are bribed with money will be determining the party flag bearers. Tinubu is a big threat to our democracy.
Your paymaster is part of the process. PDP started this long time ago.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by fergie001(mod): 6:50am On Feb 18
Akpakomiza2:
True. Atiku will restrategize. Direct primaries is the most democratic form of internal party elections...

So you have the supreme court judgment of isyaku vs APC 2026 fct primaries
I don't have it oooo, it's less than 5 days old nah

I only know the SC upheld the minority judgement by Abang. (It was 4-1 at the SC)
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by fergie001(mod):
Akpakomiza2:
That is not possible. The governors will still prevail
Like Ambode or Obaseki?

Tell the truth, at this point if Fubara goes through a direct primary, will he survive?
We saw the Dennis Idahosa and D7 wahala.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by fergie001(mod): 6:59am On Feb 18
fbabs:
Lawyer sir

Please explain deeply in full for me as one of your political students
1. In the past, Governors handpick everybody, both NASS members, etc.
It becomes difficult because how much will a Governor spend to influence all the Wards in the State, he has to dedicate some huge amount for it.

2. The power has gone back to the stakeholders. It is easy to knock out an erring Governor. Once Abuja isn't happy with the Governor, they do their abracadabra. We saw it with Ambode where he lost via direct primary to Sanwo-Olu by almost 900k votes (only APC members) yet scored less than 740k votes in the guber election.

We saw it with Edo recently.... So it's easier to manipulate by the stakeholders, the men who wield the real power not just money!
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by fergie001(mod): 7:03am On Feb 18
zopaks:
N
Tinubu is so anti democratic.
How on earth is consensus (other contenders compulsorily stepping down for the chosen one) a democratic means of producing a candidate?

I want to believe that it should be left for the party to decide.
It's not compulsory to withdraw.
If you insist you wouldn't, then you head for direct primary though APC is best at the consensus thing, the PDP has never used it before.
The LP used it in 2022.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by zopaks: 7:38am On Feb 18
fergie001:
It's not compulsory to withdraw.
If you insist you wouldn't, then you head for direct primary though APC is best at the consensus thing, the PDP has never used it before.
The LP used it in 2022.
In Osun..it worked against Omishore wishes and others ambition.

In Ekiti it worked against one of the aspirants who was very popular .

That's why I believe it is still highly undemocratic.
Re: National Assembly 'removes' Indirect Primary In New Electoral Amendment Bill by fergie001(mod): 8:00am On Feb 18
zopaks:
In Osun..it worked against Omishore wishes and others ambition.

In Ekiti it worked against one of the aspirants who was very popular .

That's why I believe it is still highly undemocratic.
It is, but they have the super-majority so they can pass anything they want.
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