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Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by amaridigital(m): 7:06am On Feb 18
AMINDA:
That's not how the law works, my friend. As soon as Elrufai pleads not guilty, the onus will be on the DSS to prove that he committed the crime beyond reasonable doubt. He cannot be compelled to bear witness against himself but you all just like the sensations. Have a field day.
A man having serious cases with efcc, icpc, dss and the kaduna State house of Assembly.

You go explain tire.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by Baawaa(m): 7:07am On Feb 18
AMINDA:
Really? With all the noise and media trials from the Lagos-Ibadan Expressway propaganda machinery, one would think he has been convicted already. Give Elrufai a time and date and he will meet you in court?

This is how you people pushed Nnamdi Kanu to prison cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by AMINDA: 7:08am On Feb 18
professorPABX:
Bashir El Rufai is very intelligent , Social Media people with not put Mallam into problem. I believe by the Grace of God, Mallam El Rufai would be out of this. Your level of reasoning is for nairaland. If a General that was retired from the Army by government over a contentious issue announced that he is planning a coup against the government with some of his boys in Brigade of Guards is arrested by DIA, will the Court of Law be asking DIA to proof that a Coup has taken place?

I will not answer you again because I know the next thing is for nairaland to delete my response and ban me as usual.
Don't just come back to claim it was a "behind the scenes" settlement when he beats the case in court.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by NairaMaster1(m): 7:17am On Feb 18
AMINDA:
Elrufai has given the EFCC assignment as they continue to peruse through the hard copies of meticulously documented transactions dating back to his time as FCT Minister right down to the end of his tenure as governor. They can take all the time in the world. When he's done, he will go to court and eat up the watery DSS charges for lunch. He is not new to this game. Man is only experiencing deja vu. He has been here before.
You go blow grammar taya.

Maybe you will retrieve his confessional statements at the television station.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by WYZAD(m): 7:19am On Feb 18
Where is all d money spent on railway during Amechi transport ministry?
I pray someone don't open ur record sha
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by NairaMaster1(m): 7:19am On Feb 18
seunmsg:
The case was filed just on Monday and has not even been assigned to a judge yet not to talk of setting a hearing date. You ADC data boys should calm down and allow the process to play out.

Amaechi the hungry guy should also calm down. DSS did not invent the allegation. El-Rufai himself woke up one morning, went to a national tv station and announced without anybody forcing him that he and some people have bugged the phone of the NSA and they are listening to his calls.

So, this is not about capacity. This is about El-Rufai going before a judge to repeat the same thing he said on live tv. Thereafter, let the judge decide. It’s very simple.
Those some people could be Amechi and Co. Let him be running his mouth.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by NairaMaster1(m): 7:22am On Feb 18
AMINDA:
Really? With all the noise and media trials from the Lagos-Ibadan Expressway propaganda machinery, one would think he has been convicted already. Give Elrufai a time and date and he will meet you in court?

Don't worry nau. Watch out and prepare to go and do the real trial. At least you listen to his confession on the TV.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by boxypane: 7:34am On Feb 18
AMINDA:
Elrufai has given the EFCC assignment as they continue to peruse through the hard copies of meticulously documented transactions dating back to his time as FCT Minister right down to the end of his tenure as governor. They can take all the time in the world. When he's done, he will go to court and eat up the watery DSS charges for lunch. He is not new to this game. Man is only experiencing deja vu. He has been here before.
But he has never gone through the trauma of spending quality time with the EFCC. Bros calm down, it seems you've been his accountant since the days he was FCT minister, no matter how you paint evil good, it will it always show its true self. I will talk from the point of view of Kaduna South people to you, maybe you should experience a pinch of what they went through. Maybe your seemingly myopic mindset about being an E-worrior will be beating to reality.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by AMINDA: 7:36am On Feb 18
boxypane:
But he has never gone through the trauma of spending quality time with the EFCC. Bros calm down, it seems you've been his account since the days he was FCT minister, no matter how you paint evil good, it will it always show its true self. I will talk from the point of view of Kaduna South people to you, may you experience a pinch of what they went through. Maybe your seemingly myopic mindset about being an E-worrior will be beating to reality.
He has. He was sued to court and he defeated the EFCC in court. This won't be any different. He remains the best DG BPE till date. Best Minister of the FCT till date. Best Governor of Kaduna till date. Who has been better? The records are there.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by lapintoz: 7:42am On Feb 18
Only if Aminda talk am, then we shall believe say Jely Rufaud lacks capacity to tap phone
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by boxypane: 7:43am On Feb 18
AMINDA:
He has. He was sued to court and he defeated the EFCC in court. This won't be any different. He remains the best DG BPE till date. Best Minister of the FCT till date. Best Governor of Kaduna till date. Who has been better? The records are there.
In accordance to what rating? By which organisation. Don't shift the goal post sir. Just keep supporting evil.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by AMINDA: 7:44am On Feb 18
boxypane:
In accordance to what rating? By which organisation. Don't shift the goal post sir. Just keep supporting evil.
Same evil that made your man Friday president? Dey play! This evil must go round.

Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by 9jatriot(m): 7:44am On Feb 18
This is very similar to what I have written previously.
9jatriot:
I think they suspect that El Rufia is planning something but since they are not sure what it is, they will keep him very busy for a while. Esepecially when it is him and Ribadu that have personal scrubbles.

From now on, all those who used to reveal state secrets to him will now start avoiding him.Even hoibidients will abadon him at some point, after all, their friendship was just out of contigency.
soojar:
You are right. And the people dragging El Rufai to court also know this, and the plan is not to convict him because that is next to impossible. But a couple of things will happen:

1. In the process of saying he is not guilty, the lawyer will ask him did he say this? of course he will have to say yes, because the video is there for the whole world to see, Lawyer: were you lying then when you said that? the answer will also have to be Yes, he was lying. And believe you me, that is going to be their campaign slogan for 2027.
2. If he says he wasn't lying that is when he's getting ready for the jail (which cannot happen anyway) but they will drag him in and out of court till after 2027 elections.


We learn every day
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by 2tpick: 7:50am On Feb 18
HallahGeisher:
Am not the king of person that will dignify you eeediot with my response. Where are the chemicals ? You only believe someone that brainwashed you . Ask you el rufai what happens to the kadara chief of southern kaduna after the innocent man refuses to be upgraded into an Emirates which they don't belong to.

Who said he went to give bandits money to stop killings .

Who was the first to go and greet ezakyzaky and later supported the way the many followers of the man were dehumanized and killed for having faceoff with the military. How many of the shites today are terrorists.

Where are the journalist sent to jail for raising concerns ?

Who is been investigated for misappropriation of kaduna state funds and refuses to honour the state government panel of inquires.?

How did fmr president obasanjo describe him in his books

Who said killing a Fulani man has obtained a loan , while he looks elsewhere when the same Fulani kills people on their farms .

Who on earth mocked Mary the mother of Jesus and felt nothing will happen?

Who started the moslems moslems ticket in kaduna even in the midst of very large population of Christian citizens in kaduna.

See he walked into the trap he set for himself. If truly the ONSA brought those chemicals as claimed by him, let him show the waybills, the import documents , and the source those chemicals were bought from? This country will not allow such persons create divisions and cause both religious and ethnic violence.

I hope you will have some modicum of common sense to know that its illegal for me to tap your own calls without proper court order and can't even brag about it. He has crossed the line and not only the line he crossed the red line with himself and the cohort in trying to intimidate a sitting government cos they rejected him to be a minister in this cabinet.
Where were all these allegations when the midget was answering questions for BAT in Chatham house? Did you bring these up when he was battling buhari to honour the agreement to handover to BAT? What of when he was the Kaduna state governor under APC, were you blind to all his atrocities?
My point is that all APC supporters lack the moral grounds to criticise the midget. You will suddenly keep quiet and hail the master strategist the moment the midget apologised and returns to coven. We know the people that have been on el rufai's necks since 2015. They are the real patriots.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by opes:
AMINDA:
Lol. Okay Harvey Spectre, till then. Just wondering why the courts didn't accept Sowore's video of Reno Omokri calling Tinubu a "drug dealer and a criminal" as evidence.
Misleading. Court rejected the evidence because the prosecutor witness, which is an official of DSS said he did not know anything about them (evidence), making them inadmissible. Why did Sowore not present a witness and submit the evidence through his own witness? DSS and EFCC won't help El Rufai in this case just like Sowore wanted to play smart.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by lapintoz: 7:58am On Feb 18
Fulani bandits dey kpai innocent Nigerians for their houses since 2015.....una keep quiet

Millions of ultra poor Nigerians particularly for North.....almajiris since independence, una keep quiet...

Malami stole over 500 billion, e join ADC, una keep quiet

El Rufai go national TV go talk say he dey bug everybody's phone, una dey hail am.

Security people hold am, una say he no get capacity.

Who do una this wayo medicine

AMINDA:
That's not how the law works, my friend. As soon as Elrufai pleads not guilty, the onus will be on the DSS to prove that he committed the crime beyond reasonable doubt. He cannot be compelled to bear witness against himself but you all just like the sensations. Have a field day.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by AMINDA: 7:59am On Feb 18
lapintoz:
Fulani bandits dey kpai innocent Nigerians for their houses since 2015.....una keep quiet

Millions of ultra poor Nigerians particularly for North.....almajiris since independence, una keep quiet...

Malami stole over 500 billion, e join ADC, una keep quiet

El Rufai go national TV go talk say he dey bug everybody's phone, una dey hail am.

Security people hold am, una say he no get capacity.

Who do una this wayo medicine
The Almajiris made Tinubu president with 5.6m votes. He was resoundingly beaten by Obi in the South, even in his polling unit at Bourdillon Road. Obi will defeat him again in 2027. Show some respect to the Almajiris!
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by BreakingNews21: 8:04am On Feb 18
Me thinks Mr. Fast talking fast thinking former Gov/Min should have said no comment on a investigation in its infancy and diverted the question to his plans and strategies to improve the lives of the masses. 😉 Like my signature reads, 'less talk and more action.😄
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by commoditiesnig(m): 8:20am On Feb 18
neyop85:
El-Rufai talks too much like he's invincible. He would learn the hard way. This isn't Buhari or Jonathan's regime.
Truly said
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by ogascomax: 8:32am On Feb 18
AMINDA:
DSS: Someone tapped the phone of the NSA. He needs to be prosecuted.

Court: Where’s your evidence?

DSS: I go lie for you?
I said that it is DSS that will have to prove the allegation of tapping not El Rufai but some ignorant people are arguing. If you take him to court and he denied tapping it what would they say. You will play what he said as evidence. That will not work. What if he said I say that just to get a reaction from the government I did it to know how arrogant they are. They are to prove that he did it and they cannot prove that he did it because he said it.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by UrVillageChief: 8:36am On Feb 18
AMINDA:
DSS: Someone tapped the phone of the NSA. He needs to be prosecuted.

Court: Where’s your evidence?

DSS: I go lie for you?
Mvmv, so you mean the oral admittance by Rufai himself is not enough evidence?
He wasn't accused of doing it, he voluntarily admitted to doing it himself. Make una dey apply sense for this opposition thing o.
The hefty implication of what Rufai did is that If terrorists, for example, had planned to attack your community to kill your mother, father, wife and children and the FG government had received the Intel and had planned to stop the terrorists, El-Rufais having unfettered access to our security officers' phones would mean that they could easily divulge the classified information to the attacking terrorists and that's how your entire generation becomes history. Do you now realize the devastating consequences?
Not everything is meant to be defended all in the name of opposition politics. In a sane society, El Rufai wouldnt escape the capital punishment for uttering such.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by AMINDA: 8:48am On Feb 18
UrVillageChief:
Mvmv, so you mean the oral admittance by Rufai himself is not enough evidence?
He wasn't accused of doing it, he voluntarily admitted to doing it himself. Make una dey apply sense for this opposition thing o.
The hefty implication of what Rufai did is that If terrorists, for example, had planned to attack your community to kill your mother, father, wife and children and the FG government had received the Intel and had planned to stop the terrorists, El-Rufais having unfettered access to our security officers' phones would mean that they could easily divulge the classified information to the attacking terrorists and that's how your entire generation becomes history. Do you now realize the devastating consequences?
Not everything is meant to be defended all in the name of opposition politics. In a sane society, El Rufai wouldnt escape the capital punishment for uttering such.
Okay, Barrister Village Chief. The law doesn't care about your hyperventilation above.

Section 36(11) of Nigeria's 1999 Constitution (as amended) provides that no person shall be compelled to give evidence against themselves in a criminal matter.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by boxypane: 8:48am On Feb 18
[quote author=AMINDA post=138504120]Same evil that made your man Friday president? Dey play! This evil must go round.

You ma no understand yourself. Please Work with me, then the DSS uncovers the evil atrocities he committed and flags him... How does that become betrayal? Was the President the one that instilled terrorism tendencies on him? You've picked the wrong one this morning. This your type of evil don't go around, it picks specific targets like yourself.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by AMINDA: 8:51am On Feb 18
boxypane:
You You ma no understand yourself, work with me, then the DSS uncovers the evil atrocities he committed and flags him... How does that become betrayal? Was the President the one that instilled terrorism tendencies on him? You've picked the wrong one this morning. This your type of evil don't go around, it picks specific targets like yourself.
Okay. Many years ago, the EFCC under Ribadu also uncovered massive corruption perpetrated by the then governor of Lagos. He was subsequently "compensated" with the ACN presidential ticket and is now NSA. Sounds familiar right? Does Reno, Bwala and FFK ring a bell? Are we seeing a pattern?

Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by boxypane: 8:58am On Feb 18
[quote author=AMINDA post=138504824]Okay. Many years ago, the EFCC under Ribadu also uncovered massive corruption perpetrated by the then governor of Lagos. He was subsequently "compensated" with the ACN presidential ticket and is now NSA. Sounds familiar right? Does Reno, Bwala and FFK ring a bell? Are we seeing a pattern?

You know it's funny where you are diving towards, that tactics won't work with me. My argument since the onset has been of terrorism tendencies, acts of terrorism, wasted human lives, atrocities on the people of Kaduna South and the critique of the media(journalists) who were molested. Maybe if you had a loved one who was part of those statistics, you will see the true picture of my argument.
You are more than correct with your assertion above, Nigerian politicians are kleptomaniacs. But you see acts of terrorism! That stands out.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by donself9: 9:04am On Feb 18
dederocs:
Misconstrue how?

When video is there, Abi you or the judge no understand English...it's up to Rufai to bring the co conspirators out.
Dont ask me !! If you have being to court before so see how even a Known Murder will plead not guilty my lord ... Inside court

You think el rufai will walk into the court and shout guilty my lord, infact El rufai dont havd to say anything the burden of proof is heavily on Prosecutor

Lemme give you an instance, imagine i come nairaland and say i stole seun car, phone and wrist watch .. Yes i have indicted mysef for crime

If pocohantas decides happily to see i go to jail base on my confession ... she has to bring seun to court to prove his car, phone, watch are missing and it is in my possession .

Now imagine what it wil be like For seun in court if his car , phone and watch are with him,

Buh i confessed cheesy ... That's why courts judge by facts and proof
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by dederocs(m): 9:10am On Feb 18
donself9:
Dont ask me !! If you have being to court before so see how even a Known Murder will plead not guilty my lord ... Inside court

You think el rufai will walk into the court and shout guilty my lord, infact El rufai dont havd to say anything the burden of proof is heavily on Prosecutor

Lemme give you an instance, imagine i come nairaland and say i stole seun car, phone and wrist watch .. Yes i have indicted mysef for crime

If pocohantas decides happily to see i go to jail base on my confession ... she has to bring seun to court to prove his car, phone, watch are missing and it is in my possession .

Now imagine what it wil be like For seun in court if his car , phone and watch are with him,

Buh i confessed cheesy ... That's why courts judge by facts and proof
This is a different scenario and example you are giving.

By saying he is aware of wiretapping a state official, that people he knows did this clandestinely on the office of the NSA in itself is serious and an offence to a state. Just the mere fact that he said it.
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by damoobaba: 9:10am On Feb 18
AMINDA:
DSS: Someone tapped the phone of the NSA. He needs to be prosecuted.

Court: Where’s your evidence?

DSS: I go lie for you?
The evidence is even Obidients ARISE TV, it's not AI or a cloned Elrufai. He said it himself on LIVE TV
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by donself9: 9:15am On Feb 18
HallahGeisher:
Am not the king of person that will dignify you eeediot with my response. Where are the chemicals ? You only believe someone that brainwashed you . Ask you el rufai what happens to the kadara chief of southern kaduna after the innocent man refuses to be upgraded into an Emirates which they don't belong to.

Who said he went to give bandits money to stop killings .

Who was the first to go and greet ezakyzaky and later supported the way the many followers of the man were dehumanized and killed for having faceoff with the military. How many of the shites today are terrorists.

Where are the journalist sent to jail for raising concerns ?

Who is been investigated for misappropriation of kaduna state funds and refuses to honour the state government panel of inquires.?

How did fmr president obasanjo describe him in his books

Who said killing a Fulani man has obtained a loan , while he looks elsewhere when the same Fulani kills people on their farms .

Who on earth mocked Mary the mother of Jesus and felt nothing will happen?

Who started the moslems moslems ticket in kaduna even in the midst of very large population of Christian citizens in kaduna.

See he walked into the trap he set for himself. If truly the ONSA brought those chemicals as claimed by him, let him show the waybills, the import documents , and the source those chemicals were bought from? This country will not allow such persons create divisions and cause both religious and ethnic violence.

I hope you will have some modicum of common sense to know that its illegal for me to tap your own calls without proper court order and can't even brag about it. He has crossed the line and not only the line he crossed the red line with himself and the cohort in trying to intimidate a sitting government cos they rejected him to be a minister in this cabinet.
You people have raised so mamy allegations against El rufai Buh not one as being proven beyond rumour

El rufai kill southern xtain, sponspor boko haram , kill children kill wife .. thats all we hear everytime, instead of seeking social media justice why not personally take El rufai to court tender evidences and get justice

Every alleged crime of El rufai was before 2023 why did Apc not expose El rufai is the devil troubling Nigeria then ... The moment he left Tinubu they started puttin out things and 1yr into election they feel now is the best time to put El rufai in jail. ,🤣

If El rufai had not left Apc will we be having this conversation ... fuuls that think all Nigerians are Fuul
Re: El-Rufai Lacks Capacity To Tap NSA Ribadu’s Phone – Rotimi Amaechi by Christistruth03:
There could have Saboteurs at the Telephone Company
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