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paxonel:
Here is another conversation which proof that these people carry bible aiming at nothing but to allure Christians into eternal death.

Please beware!

BodyCount:
So you people know better than the Jews and people who lived during the life of Jesus who rejec him?

A man of flesh and blood
A man who said he's not good, but only God is good.

A man who felt forsaken by God on the so-called cross...

Una need brain check I swear...

MaxInDHouse:
On the contrary JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is the name the only true God gave His worshipers after separating faithless people from among His faithful servants.

You will leave behind a name that my chosen ones will use as a curse, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will put each of you to death, But his own servants he will call by another name. Isaiah 65:15

The name false religionists and pagans took is Christians thinking that is the name God wants His worshipers to be called but you have all lost it because there are worshipers of God before the time of Jesus and they are not Christians and for your information the name "CHRISTIANS" was given to Jesus' first century disciples in a city called Antioch {Act 11:26} before then followers of Christ were first called "disciples of the Nazarene", later they began calling them "people belonging to the Way" and finally they were called CHRISTIANS.

Even though they knew this people were really devoted and ready to practice the things Jesus taught them yet they were using all these names to mock them but the disciples of Christ welcomed it all as they were ready to be counted unworthy of honor along with their leader.

So continue deceiving yourself because that group name "CHRISTIANS" has been bastardized today with so many atrocities committed in that group name that is why if i should ask you now to tell us on this forum the name of the church where you worship as a Christian you can never ever mention any reputable name due to shame of all the atrocities leaders of your so called Christian churches have committed that is why all of you keep hiding under that group name "CHRISTIANS" as lawlessness has made you unproductive so you have now turned that name to an idol that you keep worshiping while criticizing one another. 🙂

According to Jesus his real disciples will be known globally as active preachers and teachers of God's word in all their neighborhood {Act 1:8} they will have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} they will not participate in worldly politics {John 17:14-16} and people of all other religions will hate them. John 15:18

Now tell me which religion fulfilled all of these today apart from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

So if you are claiming Christian yet you can't mention the name of your church we know the reason why.

You are all hiding behind idols while claiming worshipers of God! Revelation 6:16🙂

paxonel:
Damage control,
The whole world already know that you are not Christians
Go back to your religion watchtower and stop mentioning Jesus

MaxInDHouse:
On the contrary JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is the name the only true God gave His worshipers after separating faithless people from among His faithful servants.

You will leave behind a name that my chosen ones will use as a curse, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will put each of you to death, But his own servants he will call by another name. Isaiah 65:15

The name false religionists and pagans took is Christians thinking that is the name God wants His worshipers to be called but you have all lost it because there are worshipers of God before the time of Jesus and they are not Christians and for your information the name "CHRISTIANS" was given to Jesus' first century disciples in a city called Antioch {Act 11:26} before then followers of Christ were first called "disciples of the Nazarene", later they began calling them "people belonging to the Way" and finally they were called CHRISTIANS.

Even though they knew this people were really devoted and ready to practice the things Jesus taught them yet they were using all these names to mock them but the disciples of Christ welcomed it all as they were ready to be counted unworthy of honor along with their leader.

So continue deceiving yourself because that group name "CHRISTIANS" has been bastardized today with so many atrocities committed in that group name that is why if i should ask you now to tell us on this forum the name of the church where you worship as a Christian you can never ever mention any reputable name due to shame of all the atrocities leaders of your so called Christian churches have committed that is why all of you keep hiding under that group name "CHRISTIANS" as lawlessness has made you unproductive so you have now turned that name to an idol that you keep worshiping while criticizing one another. 🙂

According to Jesus his real disciples will be known globally as active preachers and teachers of God's word in all their neighborhood {Act 1:8} they will have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} they will not participate in worldly politics {John 17:14-16} and people of all other religions will hate them. John 15:18

Now tell me which religion fulfilled all of these today apart from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

So if you are claiming Christian yet you can't mention the name of your church we know the reason why.

You are all hiding behind idols while claiming worshipers of God! Revelation 6:16🙂

BodyCount:
So you people know better than the Jews and people who lived during the life of Jesus who rejec him?
A man of flesh and blood
A man who said he's not good, but only God is good.
A man who felt forsaken by God on the so-called cross...
Etc

Una need brain check I swear...

MaxInDHouse:
On the contrary JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is the name the only true God gave His worshipers after separating faithless people from among His faithful servants.

You will leave behind a name that my chosen ones will use as a curse, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will put each of you to death, But his own servants he will call by another name. Isaiah 65:15

The name false religionists and pagans took is Christians thinking that is the name God wants His worshipers to be called but you have all lost it because there are worshipers of God before the time of Jesus and they are not Christians and for your information the name "CHRISTIANS" was given to Jesus' first century disciples in a city called Antioch {Act 11:26} before then followers of Christ were first called "disciples of the Nazarene", later they began calling them "people belonging to the Way" and finally they were called CHRISTIANS.

Even though they knew this people were really devoted and ready to practice the things Jesus taught them yet they were using all these names to mock them but the disciples of Christ welcomed it all as they were ready to be counted unworthy of honor along with their leader.

So continue deceiving yourself because that group name "CHRISTIANS" has been bastardized today with so many atrocities committed in that group name that is why if i should ask you now to tell us on this forum the name of the church where you worship as a Christian you can never ever mention any reputable name due to shame of all the atrocities leaders of your so called Christian churches have committed that is why all of you keep hiding under that group name "CHRISTIANS" as lawlessness has made you unproductive so you have now turned that name to an idol that you keep worshiping while criticizing one another. 🙂

According to Jesus his real disciples will be known globally as active preachers and teachers of God's word in all their neighborhood {Act 1:8} they will have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} they will not participate in worldly politics {John 17:14-16} and people of all other religions will hate them. John 15:18

Now tell me which religion fulfilled all of these today apart from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

So if you are claiming Christian yet you can't mention the name of your church we know the reason why.

You are all hiding behind idols while claiming worshipers of God! Revelation 6:16🙂

BlackViper:
Why did Charles Taze Russell say that reading the Bible causes spiritual blindness?

BlackViper:
Why did Charles Taze Russell say that reading the Bible causes spiritual blindness?

AkinwaleJJ:
Before the revised standard whoever is reading the KJV version will continue to go blind spiritually speaking.

For instance the only version that has made its adherents a global family today is the New World Translation published by Watchtower.

Please present any other version of the Bible that those using it don't participate in worldly politics and wars!

MaxInDHouse:
It really does if you don't have the right version that's the reason why those you know claiming Christians are into politics and they continue hating as well as killing their fellow worshipers!😟

BlackViper:
Can you show me any verse from the Bible which supports his opinion?

MaxInDHouse:
Charles himself also missed a lot about accurate knowledge of God's word but regarding his statement about someone guiding you to understand the Bible please read the Bible book of Act 8:30-31
There you will see where a Bible believer asked another person to guide him into the understanding of God's word!

AkinwaleJJ:
Before the revised standard whoever is reading the KJV version will continue to go blind spiritually speaking.

For instance the only version that has made its adherents a global family today is the New World Translation published by Watchtower.

Please present any other version of the Bible that those using it don't participate in worldly politics and wars!

BlackViper:
There's asking for guidance which is what Acts 8:30 is talking about, then there's making a categorical statement that guidance can only come from YOU and that anyone who seeks to understand the Bible outside of your guidance will go into spiritual darkness within 2 years.
So what Mr Russell was saying is that for 2,000 years, nobody was practicing true Christianity until he came along.
All I'm asking JWs to do, is point me in the direction of a scripture which commands all Christians to learn their theology from Charles Taze russell. This shouldn't be difficult for you.

MaxInDHouse:
I already told you that Russell has his own flaws regarding the accuract knowledge of God but at least you have seen that someone needs to guide another to the understanding of God's word but Russell was wrong because after Jesus it's a group that was chosen to lead the Christians not just a man.

Today what we have is broader than the understanding of Russell that is why he wasn't given the name God wanted to call His worshipers during the end time.

It's was fifteen years after his death that God gave us a new group name so Charles Taze Russell never knew the name God wanted to give His worshipers in the end time, in fact he was celebrating Christmas and other pagan festivals that should tell you that he is not the founder of this group as many people thought.🙂

BlackViper:
Jesus NEVER said He was not good. He merely ASKED why the term was being applied to Himself. He was testing the man who called Him good.

Jesus didn't have a problem with being called "good". He referred to Himself as the Good Shepherd:

John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep"

Jesus is God in human form. He is Eternal and has no beginning or end.

BlackViper:
I didn't deny that guidance is needed to understand the Bible. In fact Acts 8:30 that you quoted shows that it was the Holy Spirit that guided Philip to speak to the Ethiopian eunuch.

All I want to know is where in the Bible we are told that in the end times, a man called Charles Taze russell will be sent to guide us into Biblical truth, because the Bible says something VERY different:

John 16:13
“When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth…”

The Bible tells us that it is the Holy Spirit who interprets Biblical truth to us.

So do JWs believe that Charles Taze Russell is the Holy Spirit?

BlackViper:
Why did Charles Taze Russell say that reading the Bible causes spiritual blindness?

paxonel:
Damage control,
The whole world already know that you are not Christians

Go back to your religion watchtower and stop mentioning Jesus

Janosky:
Jesus told you he is a worshipper in heaven & he "is beginning of the creation by God".
Words Jesus spoke. Revelation 3:12,14.

Janosky:
Oga, present the proof.
Where, when & what year was Mr Russel alleged to have said that?

BlackViper:
Charles Taze Russell warned his followers that they would not be able to understand the Bible unless they read it under the guidance of his explanatory books.

He had about 6 volumes of these books and he titled them: "Studies in the Scripture"

He said anyone who read his explanatory books would be in the light at the end of 2 years, even if they had not read a single page of the Bible, but those who read the Bible without his explanatory books would go into darkness within 2 years.

He actually said this in The Watch Tower Magazine (September 15, 1910).

Here is the full quote:

Furthermore, not only do we find that people cannot see the Divine Plan in studying the Bible by itself, but we see also that if anyone lays the Studies in the Scriptures aside, even after he has used them, after he has become familiar with them, after he has read them for ten years — if he then lays them aside and ignores them and goes to the Bible alone… within two years he goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he had merely read the Studies in the Scriptures with their references, and had not read a page of the Bible as such, he would be in the light at the end of the two years.”

— The Watch Tower, Sept. 15, 1910, p. 298

BlackViper:
So do JWs believe that Charles Taze Russell is the Holy Spirit?

Janosky:
Oga, it is a virtue to speak the truth and avoid quoting a speaker put of context.

This is what Mr Russel actually said;
the Divine Plan in studying the Bible by itself, but
we see, also, that if anyone lays the SCRIPTURE STUDIES
aside, even after he has used them, after he has become
familiar with them, after he has read them for ten years
—if he then lays them aside and ignores them and goes
to the Bible alone, though he has understood his Bible for
ten years, our experience shows that within two years he
goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he had
merely read the SCRIPTURE STUDIES with their references,
and had not read a page of the Bible, as such, he would
be in the light at the end of the two years, because he would have the light of the Scriptures.

Our thought, therefore, is that these SCRIPTURE
STUDIES are a great assistance...

In other words, if you anyone who uses the study guide &quits, within two years he goes into darkness (about the scriptures).
On the other hand if the study guide is thoroughly studied, the individual would be "in the light of the scriptures".
That is the point Mr Russel made..

BlackViper:
Biblically speaking, God is the "Amen"

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote a Bible verse where the above is explicitly stated or paraphrased?🤔

BlackViper:
Guess who else is called "Amen" in the Bible?

Isaiah 65:16 tells us the answer:

“…shall bless himself in the God of Amen…”

Biblically speaking, God is the "Amen"

BlackViper:
Sorry oga, but Revelation 3:14 doesn't say what you think it does.

Revelation 3:14 says:"....these things saith the Amen.."

In other words, the name of the Speaker in Revelation 3:14 is, "The Amen"

So Revelation 3:14 is saying that Jesus is the One who begins creation, not that He was created in the beginning.