₦airaland Forum

Ofodirinwa:
Prompt:
make a list of nigerian presidents if there was no northern nigeria. Where there's a northern president, replace them with the southerner how got the highest amount of votes. Start with democratic era


Final Hypothetical Presidential Line (1999–2023)

Olusegun Obasanjo (1999)

Olusegun Obasanjo (2003)

Orji Uzor Kalu (2007 — replacement)

Goodluck Jonathan (2011)

Goodluck Jonathan (2015 — replacement)

Kingsley Moghalu (2019 — replacement)

Bola Ahmed Tinubu (2023)

Ofodirinwa:
Only Igbo


1999 — No Igbo substitution available

Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu (2003 — replacement)

Orji Uzor Kalu (2007 — replacement)

Pat Utomi (2011 — replacement)

Goodluck Jonathan — 2015

Kingsley Moghalu (2019 — replacement)

Peter Obi (2023 — replacement)

FSBoperator:
When and how did GEJ become Ibo and who in their right minds will vote Ojukwu as President?

And what exactly is the point of this useless thread if not to showcase your madness?

Ofodirinwa:
This is the list if reversed


Nigerian Presidents if there was no southern Nigeria


1999 — No valid northern substitution (both main candidates were southern)

Muhammadu Buhari (2003 — replacement)

Umaru Musa Yar’Adua (2007)

Muhammadu Buhari (2011 — replacement)

Muhammadu Buhari (2015)

Muhammadu Buhari (2019)

Atiku Abubakar (2023 — replacement)



lol this would be a complete dictatorship

Bukola94:
why did you put Lt. Pres Buhari before lt. president Umaru Musa Yaradua, the uncle or elder brother of Lt president Umaru Musa Yaradua may have occupied the 1999, like him and Baba OBJ were facing the same challenges and fought the same battle, Baba OBJ was just lucky and destiny. Abubakar Atiku has been in democratic settings of power before lt Buhari, he Atiku was vice to Baba OBJ for 8years. So I still don't get why you list it like that. Atiku may have clinch president before Baba Buhari but he is paying for the mis management of the government of Baba OBJ, they were no. 1 and no. 2 citizens, Atiku and Baba OBJ fall out maybe after Baba OBJ was proposing 3rd term and Atiku was part of the people that was not buying it. Baba felt betrayed and till date Atiku was so unlucky and was closer, maybe 2027 generation election, he Atiku might be lucky, I doubt it. God may be on Atiku side, election shock or politicians and God father's may favour him, if the northern leaders turn their back on Jagaban, which I still doubt

mecuries:
When was it updated that Jonathan is an Igbo man?

Ofodirinwa:
I'm using those who ran elections to gauge. So for example, if one year a southern president wins, the northerner with the highest votes after the winner is the president in a world where there's no southern Nigeria. Buhari appears a lot because he's the runner up for several elections. After Yar Adua died, nobody from his family has been relevant, so I doubt they're powerful anymore. Atiku is also the runner up or third place for several real elections,which is why he's on there.

Bukola94:
I got your point now, among them, which did you think was better and the one whose administration performed better in terms of structure, policies, security, health , education and the economy. No bias please or tribal, let called a spade a spade and writes truths no matter what....

Ofodirinwa:
From these lists? Objectively the Igbo group would be better governered assuming this is the list. There are more level-headed professionals, and the only person who would be a bad or hyper-corrupt administrator would be Orji Kalu (who is not a professional by any means). Jonathan is also corrupt, but I lived through Jonathan's time and I generally rate his performance in economic, administrative and foreign policy success very highly (probably the highest of any Nigerian president).

The Yoruba list is second but many of the people on that list have a strong dictatorial and corrupt nature like Obasanjo, Tinubu, and Adedoyin who I'm learning was part of the people who k*lled Abiola. But most yoruba leaders have both a dictatorial nature and a leaning towards modernism so they will do better than the North leadership-wise, and will also develop well. Obasanjo has been the most impactful Nigerian president and is single-handedly the father of the modernization of Nigeria. I wouldn't rate him as highly as GEJ because a lot of the things we deal with today (Sharia, culture of corruption, democratic rigging, godfatherism, weak institutions) were also intentionally engineered by him to benefit his adminstration. Their politics, from this list, looks more turbulent as most of these people are sworn enemies (Adedoyin, Obasanjo, Tinubu, Sowore). Within the Igbo-list, none of these men are at all enemies and peaceful transfer wouldn't be a major challenge.


The North would be a disaster. Yar Adua would be a reasonable high point which would be immediately setback by Buhari. Atiku is development minded but probably the most corrupt Nigerian politician of all time. Yar Adua, Buhari and Atiku are all extremely dictatorial 'sit-tight' types so there's little hope for peaceful transfers of power. And of all the leaders, only Yar Adua is a educated professional.