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| South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 4:00am On Feb 20 |
Abeg, let be realistic with ourselves, the city boy movement in South East is just for the organizers tightening their relationships with president Tinubu not that the movement is for the votes in 2027. All those who are leading the city boy movement in South East can't convince their people to vote for president Tinubu. Soludo, Kalu ( Questionable character), Cubana or who can convince reasonable Igbo's to vote for president Tinubu. Though we appreciate their efforts but they should slow down the hype. We are not carried away with the Euphoria |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 4:07am On Feb 20 |
Some Igbo's would rather vote for a wood than to vote for president Tinubu. It's not our of hatred, it's just about beliefs. Some of them don't have any believe in president Tinubu not to talk about his leadership. We respect that |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by alanto: 6:40am On Feb 20 |
helinues:Bros relax. It's too early to be nice. Igbos hate Tinubu and for many reasons, he's a Yoruba and they believe he's using their slot to be in Aso Rock even if that's only an illusion. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 7:36am On Feb 20 |
alanto:The word hatred is not applied to all the Igbo's. I can never support or vote for Peter Obi, it's not out of hatred. I have my convincing reasons to myself. That I can't support Peter Obi don't have anything to do with his tribe, Obi just don't have what it takes to be a good leader. No hatred, nothing personal. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by Badb0y4lyf(m): 7:36am On Feb 20 |
You will be shocked Tinubu can never win block vote in the north like he did during the last election. Have you thought about why there is no city boy movement in the north, his strategy is to win the west and south and get as much vote as possible in the east and also in the north. He is not looking for block vote he want to get average votes in all geographical zone. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 7:39am On Feb 20 |
Badb0y4lyf:North Central has been sealed very early.. You have no idea about the work going on in North, I am talking about projects which will be used to convince people directly not through their politicians. Projects which people have witnessed, experienced or seen won't required stretch campaign |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by duro4chang(m): 7:45am On Feb 20 |
What is their total population? Only one state in another region can produce the total votes coming from the east. Sometimes I laugh when I see them bragging that they will not vote Tinubu. Any vote from that region is just an additional not the basic. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 7:52am On Feb 20 |
duro4chang:It's the city boy movement from the region we I am talking about . Though we appreciate their efforts but we are not going to be swayed away with that as they are not in good position to convince their people to vote for president Tinubu |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by BrokenTV: 7:54am On Feb 20 |
alanto:What do you mean by Igbo hates Tinubu, Tinubu has been a failure that was camouflage and doesn't have the capacity to take Nigeria anywhere, Igbos saw it from beginning and didn't believe in him, and he has already proving everybody right. If there is any tribe that supports anybody based on capacity it is the Igbos, is Obasanjo, Yaradua, Goodluck Jonathan are they Igbos, it is on record that Igbos left their own people to votes those people mentioned here. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by Svoboda(m): 7:55am On Feb 20 |
helinues:The north has been seeing projects for ages.it isn't about projects. Northern govs are very good on infrastructure. The problem is betrayal. They feel betrayed. APC was dying in the north before Buhari played that tape that admonished his supporters to vote for Tinubu. That was the game changer. Remember he exhibited his ballot in 2023. There are a lot of reasons they feel betrayed. The north is a farming hub, but the president has snatched food from the mouths of farmers. Let me stop here fn. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 8:02am On Feb 20 |
Svoboda:If you are talking about betrayal in North, may be you are referring to their political elites as the masses are being taken care of with numerous projects. As for their political elites, we have value, we have things to negotiate. Nobody will drag them to the table for discussion , they will do it willingly |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by Svoboda(m): 8:20am On Feb 20 |
helinues:It's like you don't feel the pulse of the north. Go to the north. There has been infrastructure, cool and modern, in the north. The north isn't swayed by white elephants. Gej built modern almajiri schools. They still didn't care. They simply don't like Tinubu. They were forced to vote him without conviction. Now, there isn't any compelling reason to vote him because they feel betrayed. You're talking about projects when farmers are going hungry and bankrupt? |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 8:31am On Feb 20 |
Svoboda:Who did those development? Hope it's not Buhari because you people claimed he never did a thing |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by duro4chang(m): 8:33am On Feb 20 |
helinues:Time will tell. It's too early to say what you are saying. Many have said worse thing than that but today they are doing opposite of what they vowed not to do. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by Okoroawusa: 8:42am On Feb 20 |
Votes from the South East have never been a deciding factor in any Nigerian presidential election especially since 1999 rather it's an addition. The only time Igbos actually came out to vote was in 2023 and that was because there was a major Igbo contender in the race. In the City Boy Movement, we are treating the South East as an additional because at the end of the day, every vote adds to the tally. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by Svoboda(m): 8:57am On Feb 20 |
helinues:I was a Buharist. Buhari did some wonders in the north. He'd a clear vision for agriculture. He made a lot of northern farmers genuinely rich by boosting rice and wheat production. In contrast, this govt has no clear cut plan. No initiative beyond importing grains and harming local production, without even subsidizing farming inputs for local farmers. A hungry, bankrupt farmer would be too disgruntled to notice any new projects springing up. Tinubu needs to also understand the psychology of the average northerner. The average Muslim northerner has no affinity for the US or the West. You will do well to remember that the north literally celebrated the ousting of France from Nigeria and the other aes states. We also saw visuals of what looked like russian flags during the 2024 anti inflation protests in the north. This was in solidarity with the russians replacing the french in Niger. Now, the dhq has confirmed the presence of US troops in Nigeria to fight terrorists. It wouldn't take a wise man to understand that this would further alienate the north from Tinubu, whether the US troops presence is for good or not. Add to this the news that a refueling base is being sought for by the American forces in the north. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by SlavaUkraini: 9:23am On Feb 20 |
City boy movement in the South East that is meant to ultimately siphon cash and contracts from Seyi Tinubu and his Papa.. They are wasting their time.. Igbo people will never vote for Jagaban. He will not win a single local government area in the entire 5 plots of land in the South East |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by Madmohamed1: 11:26am On Feb 20*. Modified: 11:44am On Feb 20 |
helinues:so your tinubu has what it takes to be a good leader? If our vote count sorry for anyone who neglect let me say about 10 million igbo vote allover the country, 10 million is just if we didn't come out to vote, if Igbo's decide to come out to vote then we are talking about 23 million vote and someone sit down somewhere and telling you that igbo vote is not needed to win elections. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 12:13pm On Feb 20 |
Madmohamed1:The beliefs are mutual. Don't struggle |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 12:14pm On Feb 20 |
SlavaUkraini:Exactly what this thread is all about. There can only be improvement with the 2023 election votes not with much margin difference. We know where the votes are and SE is not part |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by franchasofficia: 1:49pm On Feb 20 |
duro4chang:The actual population of Igbos is more than the actual population of Yorubas if you take into consideration the Igbo communities and people outside Southeast that you guys used post civil war politics of treachery cum divide-and-rule to tag SouthSouth, etc. The mistake you Yorubas make is believing that Igbo people's vote is only determined by the number of votes counted in Southeast. Igbo people's vote cut across major cities in Nigeria, from: 1.) Lagos - after Yorubas, Igbos are the next highest voting bloc 2.) Rivers - Igbos contribute to the major voting bloc in this state 3.) Delta state - Igbos contribute a good percentage of the voting population in Delta state. 4.) Ogun and Ondo states - Igbos have a very good voting population here that comes second after the Yoruba indigenous population. 5.) Plateau - Igbos contribute to a good number of voter population here and could be considered the third or fourth voting bloc in terms of tribe. 6.) Kano state - very small voting population but they still represent 7.) Kaduna state - Igbos have a more than small voting population in this state. 8.) Sokoto - Igbos also have a small voting population in this state 9.) Abuja - Igbos are the second or third largest voting population in Abuja 10.) Edo state - Igbos have a relatively small voting population in this state Let me stop here. Now tell me which other Nigerian tribe have a full voting population spread all over Nigeria if not the Igbos? For your information, if a free and fair election is conducted, Bola Tinubu can never win Peter Obi in any Nigerian election, not possible. Peter Obi won 2023 Presidential election and that was why Tinubu, his inner caucus and APC leaders have been so focused on clipping Peter Obi's wings despite claiming that he came third while leaving Atiku they claimed came second. Even some of the people that was in the camp of Tinubu that knew what transpired in 2023 have been singing and telling us what happened but you bystanders making noise about supporting Tinubu online out of shalaye don't know the deep truth. If it's sure for Tinubu and APC as incumbent President and ruling party, let them make electronic transmission of polling unit election result compulsory so we can test the true popularity and acceptability of Tinubu and other contestants in 2027, but they know that Peter Obi floored them under a party without structure and without a single government official or sitting Governor/Senator/Rep/HoA/LGA Chairman/Commissioner/Minister/etc. Though I know that most of you guys from the Southwest know the truth but your born disdain for Igbos will never allow you guys confess the truth, so continue |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 1:58pm On Feb 20 |
franchasofficia:We have read this self induced epistle severally With or without support of South East can't make any difference in any Nigeria presidential election. It was confirmed in 2015, 2019, 2023 which 2027 won't be different Bottom line: South East as a region is not part of where we are expecting votes from in 2027 |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by franchasofficia: 2:04pm On Feb 20*. Modified: 4:08pm On Feb 20 |
helinues:I love this self-realization. The movement will fail to produce the required result, though they will help Tinubu get some good number of votes through the use of money and their influence in their communities to buy votes, use of security operatives to intimidate/harass voters and possibly inflate election figures, which is why most Nigerians were clamoring for Senate to make polling unit election result transmission compulsory to prevent issues like this at polling unit level. But the simplest way Tinubu could have used to win majority of Igbo people's votes; be in Southeast, SouthSouth, Lagos, Abuja or North was to be a sincere and detribalized President who carried everybody along irrespective of anything that transpired. If Tinubu had jettisoned being a tribalistic and divisive President whose sole agenda was to diminish other tribes, especially Igbos while uplifting and favoring Yorubas mostly, believe me, he wouldn't have had any need for whatever city movement headed by the rich class to convince Igbos or other Nigerians to vote him in 2027 and he wouldn't have been so scared to make electronic transmission of polling unit election results compulsory in Nigerian elections. But unfortunately he chose the part of division, tribalism, nepotism, cronyism and anti-people policies and now he is doing everything possible to rig 2027 Presidential to foist himself again on Nigerians a second time, time will tell |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 2:05pm On Feb 20 |
franchasofficia:@ emboldened was practiced by Peter Obi in South East in the last election. Remember south east top the most rigged region in 2023 election Stop accusing others on something you mastered |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by lawani(m): 2:14pm On Feb 20 |
franchasofficia:But how can Igbo be more than Yoruba? NIN of SW is like three times of SE Internet users of SW is like three times of SE Registered voters of SW is like three times of SE. There are more Yoruba in NC than there are Igbo in the SS This belief does more harm than good to Igbos and it is a widespread belief among the Igbos. Oyo and Ogun have as much population as the entire SE. Where then is the Igbo population going to come from?. This is not about who will win election but about the particular claim that Igbo are more than Yoruba in Nigeria. The reality is that the Yoruba are more than double the population of Igbos in the country. The SW is almost three times the population of the SE. If you know anyone that schooled in the North, ask them to take a census of their classmates and compare the number of Yoruba to the number of Igbo |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by GeneralOuki: 4:01pm On Feb 20 |
helinues:By projects do you by any chance mean the rampaging terrorist movement by Boko Haram and co in the north central? |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by franchasofficia: 4:16pm On Feb 20 |
lawani:You are still repeating the same mistake and repeating the same song your people always sing. If Lagos have a population of 40million people, and Yorubas are 20million of that Lagos population, Igbos are around 12million or more of that Lagos population. If Oyo State is 12million population, Igbos have at least 500k or more of that 12million Oyo population. If Ondo have 4million population, Igbos make up at least 300k of that Ondo population. If Ogun is 6million population, Igbos are at least 900k of that Ogun state population. If Abuja is 18million population, Igbos make up at least 3million of that Abuja population. Now use your tongue and count your teeth. Yorubas rarely travel outside Southwest to live permanently, they always brag about this as a great achievement, the only places they travel to in large numbers to live permanently outside Southwest are: Abroad (outside Nigeria, mostly UK, US, Canada, and some other EU, etc countries unlike Igbos that are in virtually all nations of earth in their large numbers) Abuja Portharcourt/Warri Kano But in all the 36 states of Nigeria, after the indigenes of that state, and maybe the second indigenous tribe in that state, Igbos are usually the next most populated tribe in all the 36 states of Nigeria, now what does that tell you? And when you guys deny this fact, in few hours or days or weeks or months from the day you deny this, same you and your people will come out to taunt or mock Igbos that they don't stay in their region, that they are mostly in other regions and still shouting Biafra, so make una continue to de Bobo unaselves, u guys know the truth that Igbo erika ![]() Another point worthy of note, which also prove that Igbos are more than Yorubas if you take into account, Igbo communities and Igbos politically schemed out of present day Southeast even though the scheming started from British colonial masters who never liked the Igbos for being confrontational to their authority and not having a unified traditional leader they could use to control and rule over Igbos, is the fact that this same Igbos according to global history lost over 3million people during the civil war and have constantly lost youths via Biafra agitation struggles since the end of the civil war, unlike the Yorubas who have never had any major crises that cost them human casualties to the tone of millions. The truth is there for all that desires it to see that Igbos are more than Yorubas. After Hausas, Igbos are the next most populated tribe in Nigeria, followed by Yorubas, take this to bank |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by GeneralOuki: 4:29pm On Feb 20 |
franchasofficia:if Obi's name is on the ballot it will be very difficult for them to even buy votes in 2027 even if they come loaded with cash. These City boys can not influence anywhere beyond their own polling unit and it's even debatable if they can actually convince people to vote for Tinubu against Obi. If they try to use intimidation like MC Oluomo there would be serious chaos. The only way Tinubu is getting the same number of votes or a fraction more than last time in the SE is by manipulation. But if it's by actual votes, he's definitely getting less than last time. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by gidgiddy: 4:29pm On Feb 20*. Modified: 8:22pm On Feb 20 |
It is impossible for anyone to convince Igbos to vote a monumental failure like Tinubu same as it was impossible to convince them to vote a failure like Buhari The rest of you Nigerians are welcome to keep voting failure, but count Igbos out of your self destruction Tinubu supporters better hope that those in the North that voted Tinubu in 2023 still like him enough to vote him in 2027
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| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by GeneralOuki: 4:34pm On Feb 20 |
lawani:Did you not understand what he said? You're literally proving his point here. You're just looking at geopolitical zone instead of the actual ethnicity of the people in those zones. |
| Re: South East City Boy Movement. Less Electoral Value by helinues(op): 6:35pm On Feb 20 |
GeneralOuki:Any interpretation that can make you sleep peacefully at night should be okay |
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