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Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 3:05pm On Feb 19
BlackViper:
Guess who else is called "Amen" in the Bible?

Isaiah 65:16 tells us the answer:

“…shall bless himself in the God of Amen…”

Biblically speaking, God is the "Amen"
For instance ,:
(1)
"shall bless himself in the God of Blackviper" meaning that Blackviper is the God?
No.
2) "Shall bless himself in the God of Abraham" meaning that Abraham is the God?
No.
Therefore,God is NOT the Amen.
Oga,your claim is very faulty & unscriptural..



BlackViper:
Sorry oga, but Revelation 3:14 doesn't say what you think it does.

Revelation 3:14 says:"....these things saith the Amen.."

In other words, the name of the Speaker in Revelation 3:14 is, "The Amen"

So Revelation 3:14 is saying that Jesus is the One who begins creation, not that He was created in the beginning.
@ Revelation 1:1, God gave Jesus the Revelation to give John..
Therefore , Jesus is a Messenger ,NOT God the Author of the message.
The same point in Revelation 3:12.
Revelation 3:14, Jesus is the Amen/The beginning of the creation by God."

Point of emphasis in verse 14: beginning of the Creation by God,not creation by Jesus.
Therefore , Revelation 3:12-14 ,Jesus proven that he is a worshipper & a creature.
Verse 21,in the Spirit realm Jesus sits on the throne of his Father (" Father" meaning SENIOR) alongside other obedient worshippers (@Rev 3:12,21) in heaven.
Jesus said so .
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by paxonel(op): 1:13am On Feb 21
Ok
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 3:47am On Feb 21
paxonel:
Ok
"Ok" to what?
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by paxonel(op): 5:47am On Feb 21
Nice expository essay grin grin
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 10:12pm On Feb 21
paxonel:
Nice expository essay grin grin
Twale.
cheesy
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by paxonel(op): 5:00am On Feb 22
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Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by paxonel(op): 1:46pm On Feb 22
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Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey: 8:00pm On Feb 23
BlackViper:
Charles Taze Russell warned his followers that they would not be able to understand the Bible unless they read it under the guidance of his explanatory books.

He had about 6 volumes of these books and he titled them: "Studies in the Scripture"

He said anyone who read his explanatory books would be in the light at the end of 2 years, even if they had not read a single page of the Bible, but those who read the Bible without his explanatory books would go into darkness within 2 years.

He actually said this in The Watch Tower Magazine (September 15, 1910).

Here is the full quote:

Furthermore, not only do we find that people cannot see the Divine Plan in studying the Bible by itself, but we see also that if anyone lays the Studies in the Scriptures aside, even after he has used them, after he has become familiar with them, after he has read them for ten years — if he then lays them aside and ignores them and goes to the Bible alone… within two years he goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he had merely read the Studies in the Scriptures with their references, and had not read a page of the Bible as such, he would be in the light at the end of the two years.”

The Watch Tower, Sept. 15, 1910, p. 298
You see how they are even twisting whatever they called truth to advance more lies and manipulation of their religious publications.

He said you quoting out of context. You even referenced the material word for word.

I remember one of their helpers attempt to equally twist the above to make it look as if others are twisting what they wrote grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey: 8:03pm On Feb 23
Janosky:
Oga, it is a virtue to speak the truth and avoid quoting a speaker put of context.

This is what Mr Russel actually said;
the Divine Plan in studying the Bible by itself, but
we see, also, that if anyone lays the SCRIPTURE STUDIES
aside, even after he has used them, after he has become
familiar with them, after he has read them for ten years
—if he then lays them aside and ignores them and goes
to the Bible alone, though he has understood his Bible for
ten years, our experience shows that within two years he
goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he had
merely read the SCRIPTURE STUDIES with their references,
and had not read a page of the Bible, as such, he would
be in the light at the end of the two years, because he would have the light of the Scriptures.

Our thought, therefore, is that these SCRIPTURE
STUDIES are a great assistance...

In other words, if you anyone who uses the study guide &quits, within two years he goes into darkness (about the scriptures).
On the other hand if the study guide is thoroughly studied, the individual would be "in the light of the scriptures".
That is the point Mr Russel made..
After giving you the watchtower you requested for you jumped into the Divine plan grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Na today una start lies and manipulations even of your so called truth grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey: 8:07pm On Feb 23
paxonel:
Anyway, you are free to mention Jesus afterall Muslims, Buddhists, Jewists, atheists and even African traditionalists sometimes do the same grin

But as far as Jesus Christ and Christianity is concern, all of you are grouped as one grin grin

It's either you believe in the power of his resurrection or you don't
They don't have option to deny the power of his resurrection. Even though I know that same personality you are discussing with have repeatedly said the name Christian is a bastardized and a name their Jehovah even cursed. The problem you will have with him is that, he will still come back and tell you why they are Christians even when he said they abandoned it and take up another name given to them by Jehovah aka Rutherford grin cheesy grin grin
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 8:07pm On Feb 23
Him open thread, since 19 gbidigbidi,few responses no more show.
He jump to this thread to make false claims & chase attention wey no dey him thread.

grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey: 8:22pm On Feb 23
paxonel:
Anyway, you are free to mention Jesus afterall Muslims, Buddhists, Jewists, atheists and even African traditionalists sometimes do the same grin

But as far as Jesus Christ and Christianity is concern, all of you are grouped as one grin grin

It's either you believe in the power of his resurrection or you don't
When you call him a liar and manipulator, people will think you don't know what you are saying.


Hardmirror stated.....

unfortunately, JW are the best Christians if we will be honest. But all of u are delusional as far as I am concerned. Spent many years reading your poblications and allowing visits only to realize that you are bullshitters
The liar and manipulator isolated best Christian and honest and decided to cut out.......

Delusional and bullshitters cheesy grin grin ;

cc: BlackViper

Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey: 8:22pm On Feb 23
Janosky:
Him open thread, since 19 gbidigbidi,few responses no more show.
He jump to this thread to make false claims & chase attention wey no dey him thread.

grin grin grin grin grin grin
Liars and manipulators doing what they know. Show me thread I opened on nairaland cheesy grin grin cheesy
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by paxonel(op): 11:44pm On Feb 23
achorladey:
They don't have option to deny the power of his resurrection. Even though I know that same personality you are discussing with have repeatedly said the name Christian is a bastardized and a name their Jehovah even cursed. The problem you will have with him is that, he will still come back and tell you why they are Christians even when he said they abandoned it and take up another name given to them by Jehovah aka Rutherford grin cheesy grin grin
They are terribly confused not knowing where they belong grin grin
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey:
paxonel:
They are terribly confused not knowing where they belong grin grin
Nowadays their doctrines and changing of doctrines are laughable.

They wanted to look separate but are increasingly becoming what they lied against and badmouth 😂😂🤣
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 5:50pm On Feb 24
paxonel:
They are terribly confused not knowing where they belong grin grin
Hebrew 6:13 & Deuteronomy 10:17 Yahweh already decreed His Superiority over other beings before your mentors coloured John 1:1.
Yahweh is the God of gods(his sons, Psalms 82:6).
Jesus the Word his son is a god.

This is the Bible truth you don't want.
Oga, I know the bible truth.
Pls continue wailing oooooo
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 5:55pm On Feb 24
achorladey:
Liars and manipulators doing what they know. Show me thread I opened on nairaland cheesy grin grin cheesy
Oga,did I mention your name?
No.

Achorladey,you have multiple monikers
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey: 5:03am On Feb 25
Janosky:
Oga,did I mention your name?
No.

Achorladey,you have multiple monikers
grin grin grin grin grin
Lies and manipulations about others are the characteristics of Jehovah's witnesses in other for them to look good in front of others.

No be today I start to tell you that and hammer it into your brains. The fraudulent ways of you and your likes about monikers are well documented in times past and lies that others have triple monikers have been exposed repeatedly.

We knowing your strategies of lying on top of the head of people to look meaningful na una mode of operation. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey: 5:10am On Feb 25
Janosky:
Hebrew 6:13 & Deuteronomy 10:17 Yahweh already decreed His Superiority over other beings before your mentors coloured John 1:1.
Yahweh is the God of gods(his sons, Psalms 82:6).
Jesus the Word his son is a god.

This is the Bible truth you don't want.
Oga, I know the bible truth.
Pls continue wailing oooooo
We know Jehovah's witnesses loves to copy and imitate those mentors and you admitted it on this same nairaland grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Na just una usual merry go round about the same Jesus you know is God/god which your NWT supported grin grin cheesy cheesy

Awon Jesus serve as Word of God. Is Jesus God?(God/god😂🤣😂🤣)cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by paxonel(op): 1:48am On Feb 27
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Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 6:55pm On Feb 27
achorladey:
Lies and manipulations about others are the characteristics of Jehovah's witnesses in other for them to look good in front of others.

No be today I start to tell you that and hammer it into your brains. The fraudulent ways of you and your likes about monikers are well documented in times past and lies that others have triple monikers have been exposed repeatedly.

We knowing your strategies of lying on top of the head of people to look meaningful na una mode of operation. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FUoqBLnrd/

Pls, continue deceiving yourself.
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey: 8:04pm On Feb 27
Janosky:
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FUoqBLnrd/

Pls, continue deceiving yourself.
You this na your usual cheap tactics to save face like your brother always do on this platform cheesy grin grin grin grin

That one even had to hide the part where Jehovah's witnesses are called delusional and bullshitters cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by Janosky: 9:19pm On Feb 27
achorladey:
You this na your usual cheap tactics to save face like your brother always do on this platform cheesy grin grin grin grin

That one even had to hide the part where Jehovah's witnesses are called delusional and bullshitters cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FUoqBLnrd/


Oga,say anything you like against Jehovah's people.

You can't hide nor remove that post from social media.
Pls, continue deceiving yourself
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by achorladey: 4:48am On Feb 28
Janosky:
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FUoqBLnrd/


Oga,say anything you like against Jehovah's people.

You can't hide nor remove that post from social media.
Pls, continue deceiving yourself
😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂

Deception starts with using Facebook comments of your members as back up, when even on same Facebook there are many pages that exposed the other side of Jehovah's witnesses that don't dance to your propaganda here
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by paxonel(op): 11:42am On Mar 15
Yes
Re: A Proof That Watchtower Is Another Religion Entirely, And Not Christianity by paxonel(op): 5:40am On Apr 16
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