₦airaland Forum

helinues:
How is the Sharia law affecting you in Southern Nigeria? Is Sharia law also about sit at home?

Be quiet. You talk too much. Shut it

lawani:
Jews fled Arab lands because of the wars between some Arab countries and Israel. They can return if they want and there are still Jews there but Palestinians are not allowed to return to their towns and villages inside Israel. It is therefore not the same thing.
Then actually in Bakassi, the people were not chased out and many of them are still there. It is only the sovereignty over the land that changed. Anybody that relocated to Nigeria among them did so voluntarily or did you hear that anyone was chased out or any traditional ruler deposed or exiled? It is actually not the same. Benin republic can become Nigerian territory tomorrow.
You are saying the Palestinians are a horrible lot. Outside begging them, appealing to them and helping them rebuild, what else do you think is the way forward? You can't merge them with Israel for now and you can't kill them all off. If you are constantly blaming them then you are not empathizing with them and you have to do that to be able to contribute to solving the problem

Oga, you are passing very false information. The Jews were forced out of the Arab world. Many of them left with just the clothes on their backs. Many were killed, attacked, and raped, and at no time have they been permitted to return. The Jews controled Banking and business in many of these counries but lost everything to the Arabs, Today, not up to 20,000 Jews live in the entire arab world, but 1.2 million Arabs are Israeli.
Here are a few links to get you educated on the topic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/fd/il20062006_07/il20062006_07en.pdf
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/many-israelis-are-refugees-from-arab-lands-middle-east-history-9cf540f6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4NjZBD9fW4
Please let's get our facts right.
Not one country has returned the Jewish property in Arab land.
So, where did you get your info from?

Also, how about the Indians and Pakistanis who were displaced? Why are they not fighting each other for their ancestral home? The Palestinians are just a special case.

helinues:
How is the Sharia law affecting you in Southern Nigeria? Is Sharia law also about sit at home?

Why will they be arresting Christians that are eating also destroying their beers? That's nonsense now or don't u think it can escalate to war?

suleimanshehu:
Meanwhile Niger State government in North Central Nigeria has sent a Bill to Establish Hisbah (Islamic Base Police). Although, some Jokers like CAN are busy protesting & issuing press release against the well intended bill. However, even though in Nigeria more than 65% of its population are majority Muslims "First lady of Nigeria", "Muslim-Muslim" presidential system or simply put number 1 & 2 citizens in Nigeria are Islamic religion adherent. The reality in Niger State is that more than 85% elected and appointed officials are Islam adherent. Statistics don't lie, I have never heard any northerner or Muslim in Nigeria cry of marginalization, or power shift or the presidency should be micro-zone to our region. Ramadan Kareem.

How did u know 65% are Muslims u liar

helinues:
It's not my headache that you are unable to comprehend my comments

It is laughable that u think yourself as intelligent

The Satan almighty Americans are still the ones arming terrorist in Nigeria

helinues:
How are you affected with the Sharia law in Southern region? Is Sharia law meant for others faith or only Muslim.

Was the lady lynched a Muslim?.

Amumaigwe:
Nigerians didn't have any imput on the 1999 constitution in use today. The Military imposed that document on Nigerians. Inquire from your daddy if I am not correct.

Telling me to ask my daddy is laughable but I am not sure if your father is up to me or older. However, your point is valid and known to all but that doesn't gives USA a power over our constitution.

The USA can only sanction and put on us a big tax, nothing more.

Dreambeat:
You are joking with Trump. Someone that went to a sovereign country and arrested their president

Arresting the president won't change Sheria law in the North. It's what it's

Dreambeat:
You are joking with Trump. Someone that went to a sovereign country and arrested their president

Arresting the president won't change Sheria law in the North. It's what it's

tctrills:
Oga, you are passing very false information. The Jews were forced out of the Arab world. Many of them left with just the clothes on their backs. Many were killed, attacked, and raped, and at no time have they been permitted to return. The Jews controled Banking and business in many of these counries but lost everything to the Arabs, Today, not up to 20,000 Jews live in the entire arab world, but 1.2 million Arabs are Israeli.
Here are a few links to get you educated on the topic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/fd/il20062006_07/il20062006_07en.pdf
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/many-israelis-are-refugees-from-arab-lands-middle-east-history-9cf540f6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4NjZBD9fW4
Please let's get our facts right.
Not one country has returned the Jewish property in Arab land.
So, where did you get your info from?

Also, how about the Indians and Pakistanis who were displaced? Why are they not fighting each other for their ancestral home? The Palestinians are just a special case.

What I am saying is that Jews leaving the Arab world was because of the Arab Israeli war. It would be after the Palestinians were driven out of their homes. How come Jews are still in the Arab world today? Even in Iran they have a Jewish community. It is quite obvious that nobody is saying they should not return to Arab lands if they want. The present situation is that Arab Jews don't want to return to Arab land while Palestinians want to return to their towns and villages in Israel. Jews did not have a significant population in any Arab country but if Palestinians were to return to Israel they might form a majority. That is the issue. About Pakistan and India, I hope you know it is still one of the trouble spots on Earth. Indian controlled Kashmir have Muslims and Pakistan controlled Kashmir have Hindus. It is not exactly similar because it did not involve settlers coming from all over the world. Nobody is saying Israel must not exist, only that you people should empathize with the Palestinians or is it until it happens to you that you will be able to do that?. They are not wrong to say the land belongs to them. You can't solve the issue by insisting they are the bad guys.

helinues:
How are you affected with the Sharia law in Southern region? Is Sharia law meant for others faith or only Muslim.

Oga go and sit down.Create your own country and practice whatever you wish to practice there.As far as I am concern Sharia law is a lawless law targeted at non adherent of islam.it should not be administered in a circular clime like Nigeria.

lawani:
What I am saying is that Jews leaving the Arab world was because of the Arab Israeli war. It would be after the Palestinians were driven out of their homes. How come Jews are still in the Arab world today? Even in Iran they have a Jewish community. It is quite obvious that nobody is saying they should not return to Arab lands if they want. The present situation is that Arab Jews don't want to return to Arab land while Palestinians want to return to their towns and villages in Israel. Jews did not have a significant population in any Arab country but if Palestinians were to return to Israel they might form a majority. That is the issue. About Pakistan and India, I hope you know it is still one of the trouble spots on Earth. Indian controlled Kashmir have Muslims and Pakistan controlled Kashmir have Hindus. It is not exactly similar because it did not involve settlers coming from all over the world. Nobody is saying Israel must not exist, only that you people should empathize with the Palestinians or is it until it happens to you that you will be able to do that?. They are not wrong to say the land belongs to them. You can't solve the issue by insisting they are the bad guys.

You are saying a lot that is wrong. There are not many Jews in Arab land today. Just 20,000 from the 900,000 that left.
You also assume incorrectly that the Arabs would welcome the mass return of Jews. Not one leader in the Arab world has even made such a statement.
You also mean that the Arabs would return Jewish land back? Common let's get serious.
They only way they can return and feel safe is if they are invited back and all land belonging to them is returned.
If Israel allows the Palestinians to return without giving them lands, what are they returning to? Would the live on the streets? Likewise, if the Arabs are not giving back land why would and sane Jew even dream of returning to a land they were driven.
The only reason we have this issue ongoing is that the Palestinians have been spoilt.
The Europeans and Americans have spoilt them. They have forgotten not to negotiate with terrorists.
The Palestinians have almost zero economic value to the world yet before the war, Gaza had a higher development index than Nigeria and most African nations all thanks to the kindness of Europe and America. The west spoilt them so they continue to prolong the nonsense. They are pampered and irresponsible and we continue to make excuses for them

You've never sounded reasonable for once bro. You and intelligent reasoning are two parallel lines that can never meet.

helinues:
So na USA go Abolish Sharia law in Nigeria.. Na for Nigeria Senate to make laws about gun violence in USA be that

This na for those who no dey think again. Even USA is no longer talking about christian persecution in Nigeria after their team came around to make their findings

tctrills:
You are saying a lot that is wrong. There are not many Jews in Arab land today. Just 20,000 from the 900,000 that left.
You also assume incorrectly that the Arabs would welcome the mass return of Jews. Not one leader in the Arab world has even made such a statement.
You also mean that the Arabs would return Jewish land back? Common let's get serious.
They only way they can return and feel safe is if they are invited back and all land belonging to them is returned.
If Israel allows the Palestinians to return without giving them lands, what are they returning to? Would the live on the streets? Likewise, if the Arabs are not giving back land why would and sane Jew even dream of returning to a land they were driven.
The only reason we have this issue ongoing is that the Palestinians have been spoilt.
The Europeans and Americans have spoilt them. They have forgotten not to negotiate with terrorists.
The Palestinians have almost zero economic value to the world yet before the war, Gaza had a higher development index than Nigeria and most African nations all thanks to the kindness of Europe and America. The west spoilt them so they continue to prolong the nonsense. They are pampered and irresponsible and we continue to make excuses for them

Jews had minimal presence in Arab land before they left. Their lands if they were farmers are probably left unused presently. They have claims to that lands that they lived on for thousands of years. Nobody can stop them from returning if they want but they feel safer in Israel. There is no need for any Arab leader to make any pronouncement. Would you say the Ethiopian Jews were also driven from Ethiopia?. Jews don't want to live under the control of Arabs or anybody else is the issue. No Arab nation can be against readmitting the Jews to the only homes they knew for thousands of years. Jews want their own nation and that is understandable. No need to give another interpretation. In the 20th century, the violence between Jews and Arabs was started by Jews and not by Arabs and if all Arab Jews want to return to their lands today, nobody would stop them but understandably they don't want to.

It is clear why the Jews don't want the Palestinians back and it is so they don't become minority in their own country. What has any Arab country got to lose by taking back it's small number of Jews that left or that were expelled?

The forest surrounding your hometown belong to your hometown. The forests of any land belongs to the people living in the cities and their government. Not all Israeli land is cultivated today and it does not mean the land is not Israeli land. Thesame applied to Palestine before it fell under Jewish control in 1948. Therefore the Palestinians are not asking to be given land by Jews, they say they own the whole land. There is a difference. They claim they are being oppressed and you know this is not the fifteenth century or AD 70 when a whole nation can be deported or exterminated. However the Jews have added value to the land with irrigation techniques, desalination plants etc. Former desert lands are now agricultural land. The Palestinians also need to know this. They need to embrace peace and take whatever is left as this will make it easier for all those who want to help them to do so. The approach is not to chastise or abuse them but beg them as a small piece of land to manage is still something. It is better than nothing and better than war. I don't support the idea that they are the bad guys as there is no where on Earth where people will gladly give up their only known ancestral land.

Replying that bros is akin to booking an appointment with stupidity.

olabrad:
Oga, show me how many times the US has ever approached Nigeria for money. We can show you how many times Nigeria has gotten funds from the united states.

Jews had minimal presence in Arab land before they left. Their lands if they were farmers are probably left unused presently. They have claims to that lands that they lived on for thousands of years. Nobody can stop them from returning if they want but they feel safer in Israel. There is no need for any Arab leader to make any pronouncement.
Sir do you have any evidence of anything you wrote up here or are you just making things up
According to you, the very same people that drove Jews out of their lands are now ready to welcome them back with lands and property.
You claim that no pronouncement from Arab leaders is needed, that somehow , the Jews should trust you and depend on your assurance of safety.
That the people that hated them and chased them now love them and can't wait for their return.
Oga, unless you have some evidence backing your words, it will be irresponsible for any Jew to believe you.
Does this your theory also apply to India and Pakistan? Would Pakistanis accept, welcome and return land to Indians who fled during the post independence war or is it just an Arab thing?
We can't just wake up and make broad sweeping statements without any evidence.
Till today, a number of Arab nations will not even grant visas to Jews. So please let's get back to real life and stop making things up. Just because you want something to be that way doesn't make it so.

tctrills:
Jews had minimal presence in Arab land before they left. Their lands if they were farmers are probably left unused presently. They have claims to that lands that they lived on for thousands of years. Nobody can stop them from returning if they want but they feel safer in Israel. There is no need for any Arab leader to make any pronouncement.
Sir do you have any evidence of anything you wrote up here or are you just making things up
According to you, the very same people that drove Jews out of their lands are now ready to welcome them back with lands and property.
You claim that no pronouncement from Arab leaders is needed, that somehow , the Jews should trust you and depend on your assurance of safety.
That the people that hated them and chased them now love them and can't wait for their return.
Oga, unless you have some evidence backing your words, it will be irresponsible for any Jew to believe you.
Does this your theory also apply to India and Pakistan? Would Pakistanis accept, welcome and return land to Indians who fled during the post independence war or is it just an Arab thing?
We can't just wake up and make broad sweeping statements without any evidence.
Till today, a number of Arab nations will not even grant visas to Jews. So please let's get back to real life and stop making things up. Just because you want something to be that way doesn't make it so.

If all the Arab Jews in Israel returned to only one Arab country today, they will still have an insignificant presence in that country. Therefore you don't need any research to know that Jewish presence in any Arab country before the Arab Israeli war was insignificant. Arab Jews don't want to leave Israel to go back to Arab land and that is understandable. No need to say the Arabs will resist them if they wanted to return. Where then are you supposed to go if you can't go back to a country you lived in for over twenty generations? And what threat would the returning Jews pose to the Arab countries? If there is no reason to believe something then don't believe it. An Arab country might refuse an Israeli a visa but that will be because they are Israeli and not because they are Jewish.

lawani:
If all the Arab Jews in Israel returned to only one Arab country today, they will still have an insignificant presence in that country. Therefore you don't need any research to know that Jewish presence in any Arab country before the Arab Israeli war was insignificant. Arab Jews don't want to leave Israel to go back to Arab land and that is understandable. No need to say the Arabs will resist them if they wanted to return. Where then are you supposed to go if you can't go back to a country you lived in for over twenty generations? And what threat would the returning Jews pose to the Arab countries? If there is no reason to believe something then don't believe it. An Arab country might refuse an Israeli a visa but that will be because they are Israeli and not because they are Jewish.

Let me ask you, if I chase you out of my village, would you come back just because a total stranger on Nairaland told you it was safe to return, or would you return only after strong assurance from me that it was ok to return? Answer honestly.

The Arabs did not chase away the Jews because they had a significant population (even though they had a significant economic presence). But you claim to have some inside information and to know for certain that Jews are wanted back in Arab nations, and for that, you must show evidence.

The Jews would be foolish and suicidal to return to a place where they are hated and unwanted. And to be serious, that ship had sailed its not even needed. The Jews were able to take their refugees from all Arab nations and give them a great life; let the Arabs do the same for their Palestinian brothers.

Let's take Iraq as a case study to give you an Idea of what happened to the Jews because you clearly dont understand the scale

During the 1940s, the Jewish community in Iraq held a significant and disproportionately influential role in the country's economy, particularly in commerce, trade, and banking, but they did not "control" the nation's economy in a structural sense. While constituting a small percentage of the total population, Jews were heavily concentrated in urban centers like Baghdad and Basra, where they played a dominant role in import-export businesses, foreign currency exchange, and the banking sector.

Economic Position of Iraqi Jews in the 1940s
Commercial Dominance: In the lead-up to World War II and into the 1940s, it is estimated that more than half of Iraq's importers and exporters were Jewish.
Banking and Finance: Jews dominated the banking industry, with some of the first banks in Iraq established by them.
Trade Networks: Jewish merchants had extensive international trade contacts, particularly with India and Britain.
Modernization: The community was instrumental in the modernization of Iraq's economy during the late Ottoman and early British mandate periods.

Urban Concentration: Jews made up over 40% of the population in Baghdad in the early 20th century.
Education and Language: Due to modernization and, in some cases, the influence of the Alliance Israélite Universelle schools, many Jews were educated, proficient in foreign languages, and well-positioned for international trade.
Government Role: While economically powerful, Jews faced increasing political marginalization and anti-Semitic sentiment in the 1930s and 1940s, particularly after the rise of pro-Nazi sentiments

The economic prosperity and position of the Jewish community were sharply reversed following the 1941 Farhud (a violent pogrom) and, later, the establishment of Israel in 1948. The Iraqi government subsequently passed laws that froze or confiscated the assets of Jews, particularly those who were forced to flee or were stripped of their citizenship. By the early 1950s, the vast majority of Iraq's 135,000–150,000 Jews had been forced to leave, abandoning assets estimated at roughly $34 billion in modern value.

Now you want us to believe that the people of Iraq are ready to accept the Jews and give them back some of the choicest lands in Bagdad? You are also promising us that if the Jews return, no jew will be hurt? That all of a sudden, the Arabs now love the Jews? Oga, are you joking here?

tctrills:
Let me ask you, if I chase you out of my village, would you come back just because a total stranger on Nairaland told you it was safe to return, or would you return only after strong assurance from me that it was ok to return? Answer honestly.

The Arabs did not chase away the Jews because they had a significant population (even though they had a significant economic presence). But you claim to have some inside information and to know for certain that Jews are wanted back in Arab nations, and for that, you must show evidence.

The Jews would be foolish and suicidal to return to a place where they are hated and unwanted. And to be serious, that ship had sailed its not even needed. The Jews were able to take their refugees from all Arab nations and give them a great life; let the Arabs do the same for their Palestinian brothers.

Let's take Iraq as a case study to give you an Idea of what happened to the Jews because you clearly dont understand the scale

During the 1940s, the Jewish community in Iraq held a significant and disproportionately influential role in the country's economy, particularly in commerce, trade, and banking, but they did not "control" the nation's economy in a structural sense. While constituting a small percentage of the total population, Jews were heavily concentrated in urban centers like Baghdad and Basra, where they played a dominant role in import-export businesses, foreign currency exchange, and the banking sector.

Economic Position of Iraqi Jews in the 1940s
Commercial Dominance: In the lead-up to World War II and into the 1940s, it is estimated that more than half of Iraq's importers and exporters were Jewish.
Banking and Finance: Jews dominated the banking industry, with some of the first banks in Iraq established by them.
Trade Networks: Jewish merchants had extensive international trade contacts, particularly with India and Britain.
Modernization: The community was instrumental in the modernization of Iraq's economy during the late Ottoman and early British mandate periods.

Urban Concentration: Jews made up over 40% of the population in Baghdad in the early 20th century.
Education and Language: Due to modernization and, in some cases, the influence of the Alliance Israélite Universelle schools, many Jews were educated, proficient in foreign languages, and well-positioned for international trade.
Government Role: While economically powerful, Jews faced increasing political marginalization and anti-Semitic sentiment in the 1930s and 1940s, particularly after the rise of pro-Nazi sentiments

The economic prosperity and position of the Jewish community were sharply reversed following the 1941 Farhud (a violent pogrom) and, later, the establishment of Israel in 1948. The Iraqi government subsequently passed laws that froze or confiscated the assets of Jews, particularly those who were forced to flee or were stripped of their citizenship. By the early 1950s, the vast majority of Iraq's 135,000–150,000 Jews had been forced to leave, abandoning assets estimated at roughly $34 billion in modern value.

Now you want us to believe that the people of Iraq are ready to accept the Jews and give them back some of the choicest lands in Bagdad? You are also promising us that if the Jews return, no jew will be hurt? That all of a sudden, the Arabs now love the Jews? Oga, are you joking here?

Nobody is saying Arab Jews should return to Arab land. Not even the Palestinians who are realistic say that but this does not remove the fact they have ties to those countries and can't be stopped if they want to return. Many of them still have family there. Jews like any other people are better off in a state they control. If the Arabs did not exterminate them for thousands of years then they won't hurt them in this modern era.
Arabs have nothing to lose but gain if their Jews return. So quit the argument.
What is important now is for the Palestinians to live like human beings and for onlookers to support them to achieve this. The land will probably be occupied by a consortium of countries led by the US to be rebuilt and later granted independence after they have agreed to let bygones be bygones.

lawani:
Nobody is saying Arab Jews should return to Arab land. Not even the Palestinians who are realistic say that but this does not remove the fact they have ties to those countries and can't be stopped if they want to return. Many of them still have family there. Jews like any other people are better off in a state they control. If the Arabs did not exterminate them for thousands of years then they won't hurt them in this modern era.
Arabs have nothing to lose but gain if their Jews return. So quit the argument.
What is important now is for the Palestinians to live like human beings and for onlookers to support them to achieve this. The land will probably be occupied by a consortium of countries led by the US to be rebuilt and later granted independence after they have agreed to let bygones be bygones.

You keep giving false information. Who says they can't and wouldn't be stopped if they want to return? Do you have any evidence that the people who chased them in the first place now have a change of heart? If I were a jew, why should I believe you that nothing evil will happen to me if I return to Iran? Oga, provide evidence. Again, not up to 10% of Jews still have family in the Arab world. Please do the maths. If only 20,000 remain and 900,000 left. Please stop spreading falsehood.
Since the Arabs will gain from having Jews, why did they chase them away in the first place? Make it make sense.
Now, to be Palestinians, do you know that the Palestinians in the West Bank and in Gaza (before the war) live a much better live then you Africans? So when you say, "What is important now is for the Palestinians to live like human beings," what do you even mean?
Let me give you figures for pre-war Gaza.
lets compare Gaza before the war to Africa. Human Development Index and Life Expectancy.
HDI (pre-war)
• Gaza (approximate pre-2023 HDI): 0.716
Average HDI of Africa (most recent)
• Average HDI across African countries (approximate mid-range from recent UNDP listings): ~0.674
Life Expectancy (pre-war)
• Gaza life expectancy (prior to 2023 conflict): ~75.5 years
Life Expectancy Average Africa
• Average life expectancy in Africa (recent estimate): ~64.2 years

Electricity — Pre-war Gaza
• Average annual household electricity consumption (approximate Gaza, based on monthly data): ~265 kWh per household per month ≈ 3 180 kWh per year

Electricity — Africa average
• Average per capita electricity consumption for Africa (entire continent, per person) ≈ 518 kWh per year

Water consumption — Pre-war Gaza
• Average daily water consumption per person: ≈ 82.7 litres per day

Water consumption — Africa average
• Average household water use per person: ≈ 47 litres per day (estimated average across Africa)

Africans are the ones not living like humans, not Palestinians. These guys, without producing anything, live like kings when compared to us.

So, making the claim that people who have a far better life than you are not living like humans is rather shocking. Most Africans would be better off in pre-war Gaza.

tctrills:
You keep giving false information. Who says they can't and wouldn't be stopped if they want to return? Do you have any evidence that the people who chased them in the first place now have a change of heart? If I were a jew, why should I believe you that nothing evil will happen to me if I return to Iran? Oga, provide evidence. Again, not up to 10% of Jews still have family in the Arab world. Please do the maths. If only 20,000 remain and 900,000 left. Please stop spreading falsehood.
Since the Arabs will gain from having Jews, why did they chase them away in the first place? Make it make sense.
Now, to be Palestinians, do you know that the Palestinians in the West Bank and in Gaza (before the war) live a much better live then you Africans? So when you say, "What is important now is for the Palestinians to live like human beings," what do you even mean?
Let me give you figures for pre-war Gaza.
lets compare Gaza before the war to Africa. Human Development Index and Life Expectancy.
HDI (pre-war)
• Gaza (approximate pre-2023 HDI): 0.716
Average HDI of Africa (most recent)
• Average HDI across African countries (approximate mid-range from recent UNDP listings): ~0.674
Life Expectancy (pre-war)
• Gaza life expectancy (prior to 2023 conflict): ~75.5 years
Life Expectancy Average Africa
• Average life expectancy in Africa (recent estimate): ~64.2 years

Electricity — Pre-war Gaza
• Average annual household electricity consumption (approximate Gaza, based on monthly data): ~265 kWh per household per month ≈ 3 180 kWh per year

Electricity — Africa average
• Average per capita electricity consumption for Africa (entire continent, per person) ≈ 518 kWh per year

Water consumption — Pre-war Gaza
• Average daily water consumption per person: ≈ 82.7 litres per day

Water consumption — Africa average
• Average household water use per person: ≈ 47 litres per day (estimated average across Africa)

Africans are the ones not living like humans, not Palestinians. These guys, without producing anything, live like kings when compared to us.

So, making the claim that people who have a far better life than you are not living like humans is rather shocking. Most Africans would be better off in pre-war Gaza.

Yes they won't be stopped and the evidence is that there are still Jewish communities in Arab countries not to talk of in Iran or what more evidence do you need?.

Arabs became hostile to Jews when Jews drove out Arabs from Palestine but there are still Jews in Arab countries up till now. There are Jews in Iran up till now and the Jewish community in Iran have never had issues in that country so it is your position not mine that does not make sense

When you are stateless in this modern era and your country is bombed out with over one hundred thousand killed because you fought for equality then that is living without dignity. Economic well being is not the same as dignity. You can be poor and have dignity.

lawani:
Yes they won't be stopped and the evidence is that there are still Jewish communities in Arab countries not to talk of in Iran or what more evidence do you need?.

Arabs became hostile to Jews when Jews drove out Arabs from Palestine but there are still Jews in Arab countries up till now. There are Jews in Iran up till now and the Jewish community in Iran have never had issues in that country so it is your position not mine that does not make sense

When you are stateless in this modern era and your country is bombed out with over one hundred thousand killed because you fought for equality then that is living without dignity. Economic well being is not the same as dignity. You can be poor and have dignity.

If your evidence is that there are still Jewish communities in the Arab world, may I remind you that the Arab community in Israel is more than 50 times bigger so that's evidence of nothing. Again, there are less then 15,000 Jews in Iran so this is just a child's play compared to pre 1950 figure. Meanwhile the population of Arabs in Israel has almost doubled from the 1940s numbers so you don't have a point here.

Trust me, the people in Sudan will kill to be in the West Bank, the people of Nigeria will sell all they have to live in the West Bank. It's far safer than Nigeria There is no dignity in hunger.

Again if the Palestinians really love dignity, why have they refused the offer more than 7 times now

tctrills:
If your evidence is that there are still Jewish communities in the Arab world, may I remind you that the Arab community in Israel is more than 50 times bigger so that's evidence of nothing. Again, there are less then 15,000 Jews in Iran so this is just a child's play compared to pre 1950 figure. Meanwhile the population of Arabs in Israel has almost doubled from the 1940s numbers so you don't have a point here.

Trust me, the people in Sudan will kill to be in the West Bank, the people of Nigeria will sell all they have to live in the West Bank. It's far safer than Nigeria There is no dignity in hunger.

Again if the Palestinians really love dignity, why have they refused the offer more than 7 times now

The point is that Jews are safe in Arab land and any Arab Jew that return there have nothing to fear. The idea that they have anything to fear is unfounded. The reality that Arab Jews prefer Israel is also understandable.
Palestinians say they want their land back while extremist Jews are trying to drive them off the remaining land they are still occupying. Why leave the Jews and blame only the Palestinians when everybody is just trying to get more?

Gaza is not an immigrant worker destination country that people do anything to enter. Countries that are far better off are not even that. Gaza before the destruction was only struggling

The point is that Jews are safe in Arab land and any Arab Jew that return there have nothing to fear. The idea that they have anything to fear is unfounded. The reality that Arab Jews prefer Israel is also understandable.
This is a point blank like and I have asked you to provide evidence which you can't.
You said your evidence is that a few Jews still live in Arab land, then I reminded you that 50x more Arabs live in Israel so that evidence is meaningless.
You are saying that if I chase you from your community at gun point, you would have nothing to fear coming back? And your fears would be waved away as unfounded? That's very wicked.
I personally wouldn't trust or want to live amongst people who threw me out and took all I have unless I have very strong assurances that they have changed.

Palestinians say they want their land back while extremist Jews are trying to drive them off the remaining land they are still occupying. Why leave the Jews and blame only the Palestinians when everybody is just trying to get more?
The Jews position is not extreme, in fact, it is very rational.
Let me explain it.
1. The Arabs had a chance to have half of the land, the wanted the whole and went to war, they lost.
Still, they had Gaza and the West Bank, again in 1963, they went to war and lost. War have consequences. You don't go to war to claim land, loss the war and expect not to loss some of your land.
2. 800k to 900k Jews were kick out from Arab land and about 700k Arabs were kicked out of Israel. This alone settles everything. The Jews took in their refugees and gave them a better life, let the Arabs do the same. Remember, Arab land is almost 100x bigger than Israel so there is more than enough space.


Gaza is not an immigrant worker destination country that people do anything to enter. Countries that are far better off are not even that. Gaza before the destruction was only struggling
If you claim that Gaza before October 7th was struggling I wouldn't fault you. But relative to Nigeria, it was heaven.
In fact, let me give you another stat.
Before October 7th, less Palestinians died from the Israel/ Palestine conflict (1948-2023) than the number of Nigerians killed in the islamic conflicts since 2007.
So if they are struggling, what would you say about Nigeria?

89green:
Read what you wrote again, so these are your claims?
Boko Haram means "Western education is forbidden", show me where in the Shariah which mentions that "Western education is forbidden" - genuine source pls

You know why I didn't respond early? I was trying to weigh if responding will actually be on any value in making you see the light. Cause obviously, you have a rigid and wrong mindset.

The real name of the group is not Boko-Haram. I've told you already.

Boko Haram was a nick name given to the by the people of Borno. The group on its flag has its name stated boldly: Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati wal-Jihad . Meaning , "People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet's Teachings and Jihad".

How do they achieve Jihad? Through the imposition of Shari'a law. It's quite simple. The leader of the group has said times without number that they won't reat till Shari'a law take over Nigeria.

I would have posted videos but Nairaland doesn't allow that.

Dbegining:
You know why I didn't respond early? I was trying to weigh if responding will actually be on any value in making you see the light. Cause obviously, you have a rigid and wrong mindset.

The real name of the group is not Boko-Haram. I've told you already.

Boko Haram was a nick name given to the by the people of Borno. The group on its flag has its name stated boldly: Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati wal-Jihad . Meaning , "People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet's Teachings and Jihad".

How do they achieve Jihad? Through the imposition of Shari'a law. It's quite simple. The leader of the group has said times without number that they won't reat till Shari'a law take over Nigeria.

I would have posted videos but Nairaland doesn't allow that.

Bros, the question is simple - Boko Haram means "Western education is forbidden", show me where in the Shariah which mentions that "Western education is forbidden" - if you can't show me then have in mind that the Shari'a has nothing to do with the insurgency. Islam is Shari'a and these happenings are nowhere taught by Islam.

89green:
Bros, the question is simple - Boko Haram means "Western education is forbidden", show me where in the Shariah which mentions that "Western education is forbidden" - if you can't show me then have in mind that the Shari'a has nothing to do with the insurgency. Islam is Shari'a and these happenings are nowhere taught by Islam.

Mr. Man don't be daft!!!!!!

The name of the group is not Boko Haram. Ice told you again and again. If you doubt me, google it!

Learn! Learn!

89green:
Bros, the question is simple - Boko Haram means "Western education is forbidden", show me where in the Shariah which mentions that "Western education is forbidden" - if you can't show me then have in mind that the Shari'a has nothing to do with the insurgency. Islam is Shari'a and these happenings are nowhere taught by Islam.

Secondly, Western education simply is a means of teaching western values, western ways of life. Which Islam frowns at. Islam which is also Shari'a as you have stated have it's own way of doing things that are contrary to western ways.

Dbegining:
Secondly, Western education simply is a means of teaching western values, western ways of life. Which Islam frowns at. Islam which is also Shari'a as you have stated have it's own way of doing things that are contrary to western ways.

Give me clear evidence from the Shari'a, that's all I need. This is to let you know that if you do not have clear knowledge about an issue, dont rely on the media or the misinformation that fly around.

The Shari'a has it's own way of doing things which is very beneficial to every individual be it Muslim or non-Muslim and it never promotes violence in any way.

Enlighten yourself a bit from the below link

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/301678/is-shari%60ah-comprehensive