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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by fuckboys: 1:21pm On Feb 27
bassdow:
Thanks for saying same thing Ooo. Even 500w sef dey much on top roofs of these days wey be network of weak woods.

issue be say, na those of us in here wey sabi advice people to always go for highest capacity available. na dem I blame. Call dem give them project and see them use multiple small capacity solar panels BUT would still come here to suggest otherwise.

And when I tackle dem, some go say I dey do choChoCho
I always see that bullshit of buying the biggest panels. I no dey get strength put mouth for that kind talk.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Ofejiro20: 2:11pm On Feb 27
bassdow:
when someone makes such ambiguous comment, ensure they either give tangible reasons or ignore them.

Having said that, Hope you're able to tell 715w solar panels from those lower than 700w sha.

Also don't know who suggested going that large per panel. if a single solar panel goes bad for whatEver reason, you would be loosing 715w at once times number of damages. Personally, and for price points, I limit to 350w/400w/450w and for clients, 500w max per panel except client wants otherwise.
most times, it's cheaper having 2pcs of 350w solar panel than 1pcs 700w Solar panel.

A lot of roofs nowAdays are not often strong enough. They're either old or new BUT with weak wood. Even we wey dey climb are often careful especially if we can't get the job done while directly standing on the ladder.

You also better off with 500w halfCut mono than 700w mono solar panels.
Thank you but would you prefer to have so much panels of 350w, 450w littering on top of your roof or just a single panel like 710w which will cover for two of 350w boss? Just a food of thought though.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 3:33pm On Feb 27
Ofejiro20:
Thank you but would you prefer to have so much panels of 350w, 450w littering on top of your roof or just a single panel like 710w which will cover for two of 350w boss? Just a food of thought though.
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one thing is, there's never a hard rule to anything. There's often 2 options: what's standard VS what's best for current requirement.

for regular houseHolds, max should be 400w/450w hence nothing bad with having 20pcs of 400w or even 450w solar panels except if your requirements calls for much more, then you might have to review variables to decide if and how much more to climb e.g 500w or 550w.

Only after you've carefully reviewed your options, would you be able to tell if to go higher or not. Someone with weak roof but enough continuos space would favour multiple 350w or 400w solar panels than fewer 700w solar panels so the weight gets spread over more distance vs on single point.
Another person with very small space MUST use smaller panels.
ofCourse when you need use things such as microInverters, then having FEWer panels becomes a valid point.

CostWise, Solar panels are like computer Rams, display monitors, etc where the price remains favourable and reasonable for displays <= 25inches but the moment you start moving >= 27inches, the price more than doubles. Same with computer rams, try buying 2pcs of 4GB rams vs 1pcs of 8GB ram. It's even more reasonable till you move above 8GB then you see the real doubling effect as 2pcs of 8GB ram becomes a lot CHEAPer than a single 16GB ram. Last I bought 128GB ram, na plenty vex I use pay money come act like say the seller is to blame.
Mind you we comparing Apples to Apples here.

Another is, having multiple reduces risks hence if you got 4pcs of 64GB ram and one goes bad, you still got 3pcs left BUT imagine you got a single 256GB ram and it goes bad, you lose the entire thing.
Same with Solar panels. 2pcs of 350w solar panels and thunder / lightening strikes one, you still got 350w left BUT if you got a single 700w solar panel and it goes bad, you got none left.

On price point, 2pcs of 350w is sometimes cheaper (especially if buying used) than a single 700w all things equal. Yea some would say more panels would require more kits BUT that's acceptable tradeOff considering the PROs and CONs

Except you got a quality roof, carPort, or it's a factory or commercial usage, max should be at most between 400w to 500w.



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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adimx(m): 3:42pm On Feb 27
Ofejiro20:
Thank you but would you prefer to have so much panels of 350w, 450w littering on top of your roof or just a single panel like 710w which will cover for two of 350w boss? Just a food of thought though.
Single 715watts panel is lighter than 2*350watts.
No let anyone whine you bros.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow:
adimx:
Single 715watts panel is lighter than 2*350watts.
No let anyone whine you bros.
not about just being LIGHTer but about spreading the weight

Also 2pcs of 350w would give more outPut than a single 700w solar panel despite both being 700w

Annother is, with smaller solar panels (e.g 2pcs of 350w), you have room to choose if you want more volts or more current unLike bigger solar panels that gives LESS room for such freedom
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eghos12(m): 4:48pm On Feb 27
One of the main push of buying big watts panels is that reputable companies small watt panels are hard to find. Jinko small watt panels are not easy to get.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by iraybuju: 8:09pm On Feb 27
Edrizz:
My people abeg who has handy information of the power consumption of a typical 1hp air conditioner (non inverter models)

Conversion of 1hp to wattage is around 749watt but some 1hp air conditioner n even 1hp pumping machine consume as high as 1kw+, the thing no con clear again
No be by that HP Convertion oh bro, I bought new 1HP AC and it was consuming 1200 watts, I sold it immediately because it was consuming so much my meter bill and my inverter could not withstand the drain I bought another one Belgium those type with Korea compressor the highest it draws is 580 watts my small inverter was very pleased with this at least i Dey use am go a few hours sleep with timer so that it will not drain battery before day break
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 8:21pm On Feb 27
iraybuju:
No be by that HP Convertion oh bro, I bought new 1HP AC and it was consuming 1200 watts, I sold it immediately because it was consuming so much my meter bill and my inverter could not withstand the drain I bought another one Belgium those type with Korea compressor the highest it draws is 580 watts my small inverter was very pleased with this at least i Dey use am go a few hours sleep with timer so that it will not drain battery before day break
I don't mind a pix and cost pls.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by abuzz33: 9:17pm On Feb 27
Obnoxious2001:
Who has fairly used 60A mppt charge controller for sell.

I would prefer powmr but let me know what is available and your price.

Thank you smiley
I have felicity 80a charge controller. DM me.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Edrizz(m): 10:18pm On Feb 27
iraybuju:
No be by that HP Convertion oh bro, I bought new 1HP AC and it was consuming 1200 watts, I sold it immediately because it was consuming so much my meter bill and my inverter could not withstand the drain I bought another one Belgium those type with Korea compressor the highest it draws is 580 watts my small inverter was very pleased with this at least i Dey use am go a few hours sleep with timer so that it will not drain battery before day break
Wow, that's awesome boss, abeg what's the brand name of the air conditioner n where did u buy it please
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by cyif2003(m): 6:21am On Feb 28
How good is d battery? Think of getting the 200 or 300ah
Olamlag:
currently cworth 100ah battery but i only use it in the afternoon when my battery is full
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by fuckboys: 6:29am On Feb 28
iraybuju:
No be by that HP Convertion oh bro, I bought new 1HP AC and it was consuming 1200 watts, I sold it immediately because it was consuming so much my meter bill and my inverter could not withstand the drain I bought another one Belgium those type with Korea compressor the highest it draws is 580 watts my small inverter was very pleased with this at least i Dey use am go a few hours sleep with timer so that it will not drain battery before day break
same here my Korean Tokunbo whisen(LG) 1hp inverter ac does around 550w.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 6:36am On Feb 28
Edrizz:
My people abeg who has handy information of the power consumption of a typical 1hp air conditioner (non inverter models)

Conversion of 1hp to wattage is around 749watt but some 1hp air conditioner n even 1hp pumping machine consume as high as 1kw+, the thing no con clear again
1200w at peak power consumption.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by fuckboys: 6:48am On Feb 28
adimx:
Single 715watts panel is lighter than 2*350watts.
No let anyone whine you bros.
Do you know you get more wattage per price point from smaller panels than bigger panels.

2pcs of 350w at 55k each is 110k for 700w
2pcs of 450w at 80k each is 160k for 900w
Just 1pc of 715w panel is 151k for 715w

Which of these gives more value for money and easier to carry, easier to replace in case of damage, easier to install on roof and easier to spread the load balance across the roof?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tziz(m): 6:57am On Feb 28
fuckboys:
same here my Korean Tokunbo whisen(LG) 1hp inverter ac does around 550w.
No be to sell my 1.5Hp Bruhm go buy this Whisen laidis? undecided
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gshems: 7:06am On Feb 28
You are spot on. But most people get big panels cos of space. Most are living in a rented apartment, they can only use the space directly on the roof they rented.
fuckboys:
Do you know you get more wattage per price point from smaller panels than bigger panels.

2pcs of 350w at 55k each is 110k for 700w
2pcs of 450w at 80k each is 160k for 900w
Just 1pc of 715w panel is 151k for 715w

Which of these gives more value for money and easier to carry, easier to replace in case of damage, easier to install on roof and easier to spread the load balance across the roof?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by fuckboys: 7:21am On Feb 28
Gshems:
You are spot on. But most people get big panels cos of space. Most are living in a rented apartment, they can only use the space directly on the roof they rented.
yeah now imagine the bro who got 6pcs of 715w panels, I would have gladly done 10pcs of 450w panels.

10pcs of 450w panels is 4500w at 800k
6pcs Of 715w panels is 4290w at 906k

A savings of 100k and more wattege.

Ajeh we no Dey think for this hard economy.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by cyif2003(m): 8:04am On Feb 28
Pls is it also possible to buy panels which claim to b rated 350w but actually don't supply up to 350wats
fuckboys:
Do you know you get more wattage per price point from smaller panels than bigger panels.

2pcs of 350w at 55k each is 110k for 700w
2pcs of 450w at 80k each is 160k for 900w
Just 1pc of 715w panel is 151k for 715w

Which of these gives more value for money and easier to carry, easier to replace in case of damage, easier to install on roof and easier to spread the load balance across the roof?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:27am On Feb 28
cyif2003:
Pls is it also possible to buy panels which claim to b rated 350w but actually don't supply up to 350wats
that's if you bought noneSense. Another is, a 350w solar panel can not give you 350w. Even the best 600w solar panel can not give you 600w even if you wash it every minute and water cool it. Solar panels are not yet that efficient.

Now add the fact that dust and hot sun would have further reduced it's output.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:28am On Feb 28
fuckboys:
Do you know you get more wattage per price point from smaller panels than bigger panels.

2pcs of 350w at 55k each is 110k for 700w
2pcs of 450w at 80k each is 160k for 900w
Just 1pc of 715w panel is 151k for 715w

Which of these gives more value for money and easier to carry, easier to replace in case of damage, easier to install on roof and easier to spread the load balance across the roof?
these don't seem like brand new panels
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:30am On Feb 28
fuckboys:
yeah now imagine the bro who got 6pcs of 715w panels, I would have gladly done 10pcs of 450w panels.

10pcs of 450w panels is 4500w at 800k
6pcs Of 715w panels is 4290w at 906k

A savings of 100k and more wattege.

Ajeh we no Dey think for this hard economy.
if we dey think well, shey you think say the number of worship centers (churches, mosques, shrines, etc) would be high ?

I tell person say if I born pikin wey at age 20 e dey reason like most Nigerians, e mean say I wasted my youth time labouring in Vain.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:34am On Feb 28
fuckboys:
yeah now imagine the bro who got 6pcs of 715w panels, I would have gladly done 10pcs of 450w panels.

10pcs of 450w panels is 4500w at 800k
6pcs Of 715w panels is 4290w at 906k

A savings of 100k and more wattege.

Ajeh we no Dey think for this hard economy.
but don't just look at it from price point, compare their specs also
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by fuckboys: 8:54am On Feb 28
bassdow:
these don't seem like brand new panels
Brand new panels chief
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by fuckboys: 8:56am On Feb 28
cyif2003:
Pls is it also possible to buy panels which claim to b rated 350w but actually don't supply up to 350wats
no panel is 100% efficient.
Even the 715w panel can't do 715w. Best it would do is 650-680w.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by fuckboys: 8:57am On Feb 28
bassdow:
if we dey think well, shey you think say the number of worship centers (churches, mosques, shrines, etc) would be high ?

I tell person say if I born pikin wey at age 20 e dey reason like most Nigerians, e mean say I wasted my youth time labouring in Vain.
grin grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by cyif2003(m): 9:34am On Feb 28
Ok thanks
bassdow:
that's if you bought noneSense. Another is, a 350w solar panel can not give you 350w. Even the best 600w solar panel can not give you 600w even if you wash it every minute and water cool it. Solar panels are not yet that efficient.

Now add the fact that dust and hot sun would have further reduced it's output.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gshems: 9:40am On Feb 28
fuckboys:
Do you know you get more wattage per price point from smaller panels than bigger panels.

2pcs of 350w at 55k each is 110k for 700w
2pcs of 450w at 80k each is 160k for 900w
Just 1pc of 715w panel is 151k for 715w

Which of these gives more value for money and easier to carry, easier to replace in case of damage, easier to install on roof and easier to spread the load balance across the roof?
Abeg where you see this price.? I dey plan to add 2 panels to my inverter
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by revived2: 10:48am On Feb 28
omotoda:
How do you intend to charge this? What is your load capacity? I believe you can get better brands with full capacity
I plan to pair it with an itel 12kva hybrid inverter

My plan is to totally stay off grid
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by revived2: 10:49am On Feb 28
omotoda:
How do you intend to charge this? What is your load capacity? I believe you can get better brands with full capacity
10 units of 550w jinko panels
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by revived2: 10:50am On Feb 28
Kaczynski:
Depends on your use case.
Just total offgrid that's why I'm considering a large battery pack with respect to the cost. I see its lesser than buying two 15kwh of some other brands
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by lilachiever(m): 11:06am On Feb 28
Ogas in the house.

I currently use Growatt 6000 ES Plus inverter, powered by 8 pieces of Exulted 460W high voltage panels connected in 2Sx4P.

The problem is the highest the panels have given me is around 1600W for something that should be generating 3600W.

Installer is suggesting doing 7 panels parallel since we can’t connect all 8 in parallel as the voltage will be too high for the inverter to take, leading to a fault code.

I’ve not been bothered since I installed it 5 months or so ago, but now that dust is settling on the panel, panel output has even gone as low as 1000W some times.

Please advise.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 11:41am On Feb 28
lilachiever:
Ogas in the house.

I currently use Growatt 6000 ES Plus inverter, powered by 8 pieces of Exulted 460W high voltage panels connected in 2Sx4P.

The problem is the highest the panels have given me is around 1600W for something that should be generating 3600W.

Installer is suggesting doing 7 panels parallel since we can’t connect all 8 in parallel as the voltage will be too high for the inverter to take, leading to a fault code.

I’ve not been bothered since I installed it 5 months or so ago, but now that dust is settling on the panel, panel output has even gone as low as 1000W some times.

Please advise.
Once again, even the best of Solar panels, can never give you 90% efficiency let alone 100%.

So long the solar panels have no issue, are properly installed, and using good enough thick cables, and no dust, enough unLight, and quality MPPT controller whether inBuilt or external. Mind you, As the sun gets Hoter, efficiency drops.

Would suggest you focus on total harvest at end of the day and not at the point you peeping at the screen
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