₦airaland Forum

lawani:
They are dead? What about your Jesus that you worship? Is he alive? Someone who died two thousand years ago that you say is still alive and you are saying people's real ancestors are dead. I hope you see the folly. Spirits don't die unless of repetitive evil doing. People worship ancestors, liaise with ancestors and etc all over the world from Europe to Japan to China and etc. It is the default for humanity

JuanDeDios:
You're saying Christianity and Islam doesn't work then. You're saying no religion works.

QuinQQ:
I clearly said Jesus is part of the God head. Humans die or become ineffective in this realm.
Hence Muslims don't worship Muhammad but they worship Allah.
Once gain, I don't know any first world country where lots of people worship ancestors. Secondly, all ancestor-worshipping societies were conquered and colonized

QuinQQ:
Therecare lots of examples of successful societies where majority are Muslims or Christians

lawani:
Every normal human being believe spirits exist even if only in paradise which is why you believe Jesus is God or that you are going to heaven. Muslims also believe Mohammed's spirit is in Aljanna. All human cultures believe their ancestors are in heaven. All human cultures without exception. They also believe in reincarnation. People worship ancestors all over the world. You are now saying not many of them?

JuanDeDios:
And you haven't heard of successful societies where the majority are non-Christian, atheist or pagan?

QuinQQ:
Not a single ancestor-worshipping society was not defeated and colonized

QuinQQ:
We have gone beyond belief at this point. You can believe anything you wish. We are talking of what has been shown to work from experience.

lawani:
If you have a training in the spirit sector say as a Babalawo or a Buddhist monk, you will not be saying spirits don't exist. Enlightenment is not free and the enlightened don't doubt the existence of spirits

JuanDeDios:
Colonization is your measure of success now?

Ok. Japan is an ancestor-worshipping society. It's successful. Was not colonized even.

QuinQQ:
This is called strawman fallacy. See the definition below. Where did I ever say spirits don't exist??

lawani:
It is simple logic. If you believe spirits exist and are intelligent beings then you will believe they can help you

QuinQQ:
There us a difference between honoring ancestors and calling on them to help you fight the British

JuanDeDios:
Oga, just go and sit down. You don't have a clue.

advocatejare:
Are those people you call jalabi, tijanniyah etc not Muslims? One of your Alfas was recorded boasting about having charm and saying that any Alfa that machette can cut is not a real Alfa. Are you saying that all those are not Muslims?

lawani:
Jesus was a magician or where do you draw the line between magic and miracle and which spiritual power is not from God? All spiritual power are from God

deyreintrouble:
The verses I quoted earlier should answer your questions. It's clearly stated.

edcas:
Jesus never used any form of magical powers or charms to perform miracles. The turning of water into wine, feeding the multitude with five loafs of bread and two fishes, or any other miracle was made possible by the divine power that is Him (Jesus). Let it be known to you that no magical power or charm can withstand the power of Jesus, because the power and authority in Jesus can silence any magical power or charm. The Bible says, "At the mention of the name of Jesus, ...... every knee must bow" (Phil. 2:10-11). Jesus Himself said, "All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me" (Matthew 28:18).

Christianity may be seen as a foreign religion, but the gospel of Jesus Christ is not foreign to any culture because Jesus Himself commanded that this gospel be preached to the uttermost part of the earth (cf Acts 1:. So if you want to be a Christian, be careful to follow His teachings, and avoid any practice that is not in alignment or agreement with the teachings of Jesus.