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Mosco100:
You'll have to experience it yourself.

Same technique 1slam uses.

Don't worry.....your mind is to shallow to understand that this is nothing but psychology maneuver....... whatever you're experiencing can be experienced by any one in another religion that's why they're so strong in their beliefs.

The faith,the healing,the answered prayer,the peace,the prophecy all isn't synonymous to your religion only so this is still pointless.

Mattswaggz:
Same technique 1slam uses.

Don't worry.....your mind is to shallow to understand that this is nothing but psychology maneuver....... whatever you're experiencing can be experienced by any one in another religion that's why they're so strong in their beliefs.

The faith,the healing,the answered prayer,the peace,the prophecy all isn't synonymous to your religion only so this is still pointless.

What about the prophesy? Can't you see that all the prophecies of the Bible are being fulfilled?

Mosco100:
What about the prophesy? Can't you see that all the prophecies of the Bible are being fulfilled?

Have you checked different sources to see that others have made similar prophecies or not?........mind you,not all the prophecies are being fulfilled but for most that are fulfilled they're easily predictable given human nature ie "wars and rumors of war" .

Denalarian:
Good, that's the difference 1.

His body was never found neither was there any record of the body being destroyed. 2

Other prophets have direct known bloodline. Jesus doesn't. 3

Remember, there are more record from thousand bc that are still factual.

why would you read this and don't get it that it is all myth.
shouldn't this be a red flag that the whole thing is made up? if you hear anything he story now, you won't believe it, what makes you think it was correct 2000+ years ago?

Gabrielshow24:
Oh, so we’re admitting the 'worldwide' thing was a hallucination? Progress! 👏 It definitely changes the fact that your entire previous 'rant' was built on a premise🥱 you pulled out of thin air. But sure, let’s pivot.

It’s hilarious that you think every single writer is required to provide a carbon copy of the same spreadsheet🤔. Maybe Mark, Luke, and John just didn't have your 'superior' eye👀 for seismic activity? Or maybe—and stay with me here—different people highlight different things👀.

And the 'buildings standing' bit? Truly a galaxy-brain👀 take. 🌌 I forgot that every minor earthquake in history is legally required to level every 'skyscraper' in the vicinity or it 'didn't happen.🤦🏾‍♂️' I guess physics only works when it fits your narrative?🤧

Keep 'tasking your brain,' though. You’re doing great🧐. At this rate, you might actually get the 'right understanding' by next year😆🤣😂.

Are you done?

Don't you think if it is not alien to you when it comes to events in your faith, that it is only Mathew that mentioned an earthquake? Only him mentioned the Walking Zonebs, only him mentioned the visiting Magis, only him mentioned Herod's massacre, and only him mentioned such phenomenons befitting Hollywood like effects of that event on Judea?

Only him, the Holy Spirit whispered the fact the Temple Veil was torn in two!

Only him.

Think.....

He was obviously not telling the truths......

Four Accounts.....and his was the only one with such details.....

Embellishments.

Lasveg:
why are you contradicting yourself? You dont think the big bang is a myth, yet you find it funny that people believe in it.

Be like to understand dey hard you. Make I use pidgin English write am.

I say e dey funny say people like you wen no believe in God, believe say na big bang created you.

I never disputed if there was big bang or not.

I am saying God created you. Big bang did not.

It is obvious you don't understand the concept of big bang.

People like you believe that is how humanity was formed. But I am correcting you that you weren't formed out of big bang (the keyword is formed). God created you. Accept that and stop deceiving yourself.

How is that so hard to understand? Smh

Mattswaggz:
Have you checked different sources to see that others have made similar prophecies or not?........mind you,not all the prophecies are being fulfilled but for most that are fulfilled they're easily predictable given human nature ie "wars and rumors of war" .

Easily predictable? Just like the restoration of Israel and the Gog and Magog war towards which way we're now headed, vis-a-vis the present tension of Russia(Gog), Persia(Iran) etc., versus Israel(Ezekiel 38)?

Mosco100:
Easily predictable? Just like the restoration of Israel and the Gog and Magog war towards which way we're now headed, vis-a-vis the present tension of Russia(Gog), Persia(Iran) etc., versus Israel(Ezekiel 38)?

Lol.....I wish I can just meet you now in person let's place a huge bet on this your hilarious prediction.

What makes you think Russia will fight Israel because of Iran?. .....like how do you guys think. Ideologically, ethnically, mentality wise etc Russia is more closer to Israel than Iran.....I don't know who gave you guys the idea that an Average Russian will be willing to die because of Iran....no keel me with laugh abeg. .

MaxInDHouse:
It's good to ask questions even the Bible itself encourages such:

if you call out for understanding And raise your voice for discernment. Proverbs 2:3

Compare to

“Keep on asking" Matthew 7:7

Proverbs says if you don't give then you will find the understanding of God's word! Proverbs 2:4-5

Selfishness often deadens our power of reasoning so we need to be honest when making research that is why the Bible's Author said it's the way we judge others that we will be judged. Matthew 7:1-2

Of course the case that affected Job did not start from the lifetime of Job but it's easy to draw conclusions without asking what led to the questions God threw at Satan:

“Where have you come from?”

“Have you taken note of my servant Job? There is no one like him on the earth. He is an upright man of integrity, fearing God and shunning what is bad.” Job 1:7-8


Surely if you have drawn conclusions in your mind regarding the two persons (Almighty God and Satan) discussing in those Bible verses without asking thought provoking questions about what could raise such a discussion you will find it really hard to make any sense out of what you read.

That's why you need to STUDY God's word not just READING it! 🙂

That part of the bible looked to me like a Hollywood movie script.

Uchesis:
That part of the bible looked to me like a Hollywood movie script.

Of course it will look so if you are not interested to know what really transpired in the spirit realms before that event!🙂

Mattswaggz:
Lol.....I wish I can just meet you now in person let's place a huge bet on this your hilarious prediction.

What makes you think Russia will fight Israel because of Iran?. .....like how do you guys think. Ideologically, ethnically, mentality wise etc Russia is more closer to Israel than Iran.....I don't know who gave you guys the idea that an Average Russian will be willing to die because of Iran....no keel me with laugh abeg. .

That is what Evangelical Christians in America have been teaching and the Nigerians accolytes have been gobbling it up.

Don't blame them.

Russia might aid Iran with weapons against America but definitely not against Israel. The Zionists actually hedged the bets. They are also in Russia. America is only been useful now.

The Jews have also moved around, infiltrating every Powerful Nations.

Lukuluku69:
That is what Evangelical Christians in America have been teaching and the Nigerians accolytes have been gobbling it up.

Don't blame them.

Russia might aid Iran with weapons against America but definitely not against Israel. The Zionists actually hedged the bets. They ate also in Russia. America is only been useful now.

The Jews have also moved around, infiltrating every Powerful Nations.

Like this mindset of their usually baffles me a lot.......how would any sane person look at Russia and believe they'll be going to war with Israel because of Iran?........even if they're fed propaganda....is their brain dead or what that they can't use it anymore?.

Mattswaggz:
Like this mindset of their usually baffles me a lot.......how would any sane person look at Russia and believe they'll be going to war with Israel because of Iran?........even if they're fed propaganda....is their brain dead or what that they can't use it anymore?.

That is what American Christian Evangelists/Evangelicals teaches. They have been teaching that the last war, the Armagedon will comprises Russia, China and the Alliance of Muslims against Israel with America and Western Europe providing the pivot enabling the Children of God to attain their destiny.

I used to see that a lot on CBS and many of their News outlets.

So, don't blame the Nigerian Christians for believing that too.

Lukuluku69:
Shut it the right word is "pounce" you dumdum 😆

It's ok, English isn't your mother tongue. U can learn new vocabulary everyday.

SIRTeee15:
It's ok, English isn't your mother tongue. U can learn new vocabulary everyday.

Shut it.

The correct word is "pounce" in that context.

Olodo.

Lukuluku69:
Shut it.

The correct word is "pounce" in that context.

Olodo.

Are u mod or what?

I didn't insult your prophet so why are u deleting my post

I asked a simple question, when will scientist confirm what your beloved P. did when he split the moon and plastered it back.

Answer and stop deleting my post.

SIRTeee15:
Are u mod or what?

I didn't insult your prophet so why are u deleting my post

I asked a simple question, when will scientist confirm what your beloved P. did when he split the moon and plastered it back.

Answer and stop deleting my post.

Are you okay? As in OK?

Wetin concern me with deleting your post?

Do I own Nairaland or am I moderator on here ni?

😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆

Is that even possible for a fellow user to delete another user post?

Give your head a wobble.....

Lukuluku69:
Are you okay? As in OK?

Wetin concern me with deleting your post?

Do I own Nairaland or am I moderator on here ni?

😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆

Is that even possible for a fellow user to delete another user post?

Give your head a wobble.....

Answer my question and stop deflecting ....

U have been running around this thread like a headless chicken mocking bible miracles.

Now it's time to talk about yours in the Almighty Quran the supposed word of God, wahala come get Belle....

WHEN WILL SCIENTIST CONFIRM THE MIRACLE OF YOUR BELOVED P. WHEN HE SPLIT THE MOON AND PLASTERED IT BACK.

WHEN WILL SCIENTIST TELL US IT'S TRUE.

ANSWER THE QUESTION.

SIRTeee15:
Answer my question and stop deflecting ....

U have been running around this thread like a headless chicken mocking bible miracles.

Now it's time to talk about yours in the Almighty Quran the supposed word of God, wahala come get Belle....

WHEN WILL SCIENTIST CONFIRM THE MIRACLE OF YOUR BELOVED P. WHEN HE SPLIT THE MOON AND PLASTERED IT BACK.

WHEN WILL SCIENTIST TELL US IT'S TRUE.

ANSWER THE QUESTION.

You want Scientists to validate the Moon splitting miracle?

Unfortunately, Mankind have only visited the moon once with a manned mission in April, 1969 and never had the time for a detailed study of the Geological activities of the moon.

You can fund another visit if you are so interested 😊 😄 ☺️.

So, do you now know where the Zonebs of Judea went to after they left their Sepulchres that night?

Lukuluku69:
You want Scientists to validate the Moon splitting miracle?

Unfortunately, Mankind have only visited the moon once with a manned mission in April, 1969 and never had the time for a detailed study of the Geological activities of the moon.

You can fund another visit if you are so interested 😊 😄 ☺️.

So, do you now know where the Zonebs of Judea went to after they left their Sepulchres that night?

Guy there is already 6 manned/crewed mission to moon and 21 uncrewed missions. There's nothing about the moon we don't know. It's surface and topography is well detailed and clearly understood.

There are satellites orbiting the moon itself as we speak giving us high level precision mapping of the moon. Even the dark side of the moon is well mapped.

Yet, we can't find where the remnants of the halved moon anywhere.

I will rather believe dead people came back to life than believe someone split the moon and plastered it back.

As it was in the days of Jesus resurrection, so it is now. In modern times, Relatives are still claiming their loved came back to life from the dead. Why then should I doubt it happened in the past.

Someone said he cut the moon to half and plastered it back, but there is no historical record of such anywhere. Nobody ever mentioned a day when the moon split in half. None, not the Greeks, or Byzantine or the Chinese or the Indians. No one mentioned it.

Come on man, the only reason u believed this is because u are a Muslim. If u were not born a Muslim, I'm sure u will call it nonsense.

Lukuluku69:
You want Scientists to validate the Moon splitting miracle?

Unfortunately, Mankind have only visited the moon once with a manned mission in April, 1969 and never had the time for a detailed study of the Geological activities of the moon.

You can fund another visit if you are so interested 😊 😄 ☺️.

So, do you now know where the Zonebs of Judea went to after they left their Sepulchres that night?

Go and read about the Nazareth inscription, it points towards this resurrection story in Mathew.

Nazareth instruction is a 1st century marble tablet with an edict by Caesar inscribed on it.

The ancient monuments has been dated to early 1st century around 40 AD.

It warned people around judea and galilee to stop disturbing graves or moving dead people already buried/entombed.

Now Jews don't go about touching dead people anyhow for religious reasons. So why would the Caesar be warning Jews not to disturb dead people when it's a known fact that Jews generally regard touching corpse as unclean.

What would make Caesar issue such warning? Maybe he heard a rumour that people saw their dead coming back to life from the grave in Judea and galilee region; and he concluded Jews are playing mind games again.

SIRTeee15:
Guy there is already 6 manned/crewed mission to moon and 21 uncrewed missions. There's nothing about the moon we don't know. It's surface and topography is well detailed and clearly understood.

There are satellites orbiting the moon itself as we speak giving us high level precision mapping of the moon. Even the dark side of the moon is well mapped.

Yet, we can't find where the remnants of the halved moon anywhere.

I will rather believe dead people came back to life than believe someone split the moon and plastered it back.

As it was in the days of Jesus resurrection, so it is now. In modern times, Relatives are still claiming their loved came back to life from the dead. Why then should I doubt it happened in the past.

Someone said he cut the moon to half and plastered it back, but there is no historical record of such anywhere. Nobody ever mentioned a day when the moon split in half. None, not the Greeks, or Byzantine or the Chinese or the Indians. No one mentioned it.

Come on man, the only reason u believed this is because u are a Muslim. If u were not born a Muslim, I'm sure u will call it nonsense.

You are a waste of time really.

So, why not ask your scientists what they saw during their manned missions?

If it is that important to you in your quest to put a lie to the Islamic claim of splitting the moon, why not fund another mission and go find out?

Prove it wrong.....

It is on you...

Mattswaggz:
Same technique 1slam uses.

I asked you a question but you dodged it because you are scared it will expose you.
If you think all religions/faith are on the same page simply because you can see people adhering to all these religions then try to answer this simple question:

Can you mention the group name of Buddha's disciples and what they have achieve among themselves as they apply what Buddha taught them globally? Act 1:8

Jesus said his disciples will serve as evidence of his existence as they keep on practicing what he taught them and stands out differently from all other people.

You mentioned Buddha to counter what Jesus said but the question is are the disciples of Buddha found in all the nations of the earth?
This question is important because the only thing that makes all of us claiming human are the characteristics we all share so if any God wants to prove himself such a God should be able to cut across all races to make worshipers out of all tribes and ethnic groups.

That is what Jesus foretold about his own disciples proving that his God is the Creator of everything.

The Bible God foretold that a time will come when people from all nations will start fighting and killing themselves due to politics powered by racism {Revelation 6:3-4} of course this sounds cheap because we all know that it's logical but then the same God now said something that's really strange!😟

He promised to gather people from all races and bring them together so that they will start using His laws to teach themselves {Isaiah 2:2-3} ironically you will see lots of religions trying to meet up with this but what did the Bible God say those studying His word and using it will achieve among themselves?

He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4

So according to the Bible God when all the nations are fighting and killing one another his own worshipers who came out from all these nations and will never be part of these killers rather LOVE will be their watchword and all other religions will testify to it that there is love among members of this religion {John 13:34-45} because their God is LOVE! 1John 4:8

This is what i expect you to prove as a counter against what the Bible God promised not just similarities which includes you yourself!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
I asked you a question but you dodged it because you are scared it will expose you.
If you think all religions/faith are on the same page simply because you can see people adhering to all these religions then try to answer this simple question:


Jesus said his disciples will serve as evidence of his existence as they keep on practicing what he taught them and stands out differently from all other people.

You mentioned Buddha to counter what Jesus said but the question is are the disciples of Buddha found in all the nations of the earth?
This question is important because the only thing that makes all of us claiming human are the characteristics we all share so if any God wants to prove himself such a God should be able to cut across all races to make worshipers out of all tribes and ethnic groups.

That is what Jesus foretold about his own disciples proving that his God is the Creator of everything.

The Bible God foretold that a time will come when people from all nations will start fighting and killing themselves due to politics powered by racism {Revelation 6:3-4} of course this sounds cheap because we all know that it's logical but then the same God now said something that's really strange!😟

He promised to gather people from all races and bring them together so that they will start using His laws to teach themselves {Isaiah 2:2-3} ironically you will see lots of religions trying to meet up with this but what did the Bible God say those studying His word and using it will achieve among themselves?

He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4

So according to the Bible God when all the nations are fighting and killing one another his own worshipers who came out from all these nations and will never be part of these killers rather LOVE will be their watchword and all other religions will testify to it that there is love among members of this religion {John 13:34-45} because their God is LOVE! 1John 4:8

This is what i expect you to prove as a counter against what the Bible God promised not just similarities which includes you yourself!🙂

Well it's now that you've made your point clearer.

Using your analogy to answer....it would seem that Buddha wouldn't be the one I would have mentioned then....He wasn't some obsessed supremacist aimed at spreading what he thinks is right either by willingly or by force.....He preached "Light" and genuine godly way of life which enables others to respect other humans and living things appropriately and to live in peace and harmony.

But by the present benchmark you just used/mentioned then I would have mentioned Muhammad whose disciples also cut across different race, continents and ethnicity and who was also a supremacist aimed at spreading what he believes across the globe.

If you had made it clearer earlier I wouldn't have mentioned Buddha because the reason why I mentioned him is because of his teachings and the "truth" they carry so no such thing as me dodging any question okay.

And also by your analogy you shouldn't be against 1slam as well since it has achieved the criteria that proves it worshippers worship the Almighty.

Mattswaggz:
And also by your analogy you shouldn't be against 1slam as well since it has achieved the criteria that proves it worshippers worship the Almighty.

Islam failed woefully!

How?

According to the Bible God worshipers of the same God or subjects who are loyaltists of the same supreme ruler shouldn't be found fighting and killing themselves because all they need to do is go to their ruler in order to resolve any issue or use the laws of their ruler to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves. Isaiah 2:4

What do you think about this?

Do you think there is any Muslim group
meeting up with this criteria?

Of course there is none Muslims often trash their Allah and Quran in the face of nationalism, racism and politics then they pick up weapons and start killing their fellow worshipers.

So if there is none then it means Islam is another deceit and not the true religion!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Islam failed woefully!

How?

According to the Bible God worshipers of the same God or subjects who are loyaltists of the same supreme ruler shouldn't be found fighting and killing themselves because all they need to do is go to their ruler in order to resolve any issue or use the laws of their ruler to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves. Isaiah 2:4

What do you think about this?

Do you think there is any Muslim group
meeting up with this criteria?

Of course there is none Muslims often trash their Allah and Quran in the face of nationalism, racism and politics then they pick up weapons and start killing their fellow worshipers.

So if there is none then it means Islam is another deceit and not the true religion!🙂

All this you're saying is none of my concern so stop changing goal post.....it's the criteria you used that I am answering you with.

You said that believers cutting across race, continents, ethnicity etc shows that they're doing the right thing.......while me I am of the opinion that someone ways of life and what they teach is what determines the presence of light or darkness in them that's why I mentioned "Buddha" as an example after you talk about the teachings of Jesus then you said that's not the criteria and you gave yours.

So stick to the CRITERIA you gave and reply appropriately.

Lukuluku69:
Are you done?

Don't you think if it is not alien to you when it comes to events in your faith, that it is only Mathew that mentioned an earthquake? Only him mentioned the Walking Zonebs, only him mentioned the visiting Magis, only him mentioned Herod's massacre, and only him mentioned such phenomenons befitting Hollywood like effects of that event on Judea?

Only him, the Holy Spirit whispered the fact the Temple Veil was torn in two!

Only him.

Think.....

He was obviously not telling the truths......

Four Accounts.....and his was the only one with such details.....

Embellishments.

So, your grand discovery is that different biographers should write the same thing ? Groundbreaking.🤧

By that 'logic,' we should probably throw out most of ancient history. If three friends go to a concert and only one mentions the lead singer broke his guitar, does that mean the guitar is magically intact? Of course not. It means one person found that detail significant while the others focused on the setlist.

You seem to forget that Matthew was writing specifically to a Jewish audience. He included the Magi, the Massacre of the Innocents, and the earthquake because they fulfilled Messianic prophecies (like Micah 5:2 and Jeremiah 31:15). To a Jew, these weren't 'Hollywood effects'; they were theological credentials.

You claim 'only him' mentioned the torn veil? You might want to double-check your source material . Mark 15:38 and Luke 23:45 both explicitly record the veil being torn. If you're going to build a case on 'only him,' at least pick a detail that is actually unique!🥱

Now, if all four Gospels were identical carbon copies, you’d be the first person screaming 'Collusion!' and 'Copy-pasting!'🤔When witnesses agree on the core (the Crucifixion)🤔 but provide unique peripheral details🤔, that is the hallmark of independent, authentic testimony, not a scripted lie.🧐

Calling unique details 'embellishments'🤨 just because they aren't repeated four times is a desperate reach🥱. Matthew wasn't writing a technical manual; he was writing a targeted biography🧐. If 'different' equals 'untrue,' then every history book on your shelf is a work of fiction🤦🏾‍♂️.

Maybe spend less time shouting 'Think...'😂 and more time actually reading the other three Gospels?🤨 It helps with the 'Temple Veil' awkwardness. 🥱