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Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by Nextjs: 7:07am On Mar 02
akpumping7720:
Haaabaaaa naaaah. Please let's do this opposition with sense naaaah. At the bolded is still in existence naaaah. And according to your statement; transmit when network is restored. Hope you know that it is no longer "real time transmission" If there is a network glitch?
Like i said if there is no network in the said area. The adhoc staff or electoral officer can snap the ec8 form and and send. When he leaves the interior villages where he went to anytime network os restored, it sent automatically.


We do it on Facebook, Instagram etc. And the past INEC chairman said the BVAS was configured like this and in 2022 prior to the elections he said results will be transmitted electronically.

In which Senate and house members result came in electronically and only presidential was affected by " glitches " according to INEC


Nigerians must resist the attempt to move elections result to collection centres.


The election in Abia state is an example. Where the returning officer (Professor Nnennaya Oti)
was asked to amend the results.

She said " they came with offers in billions she refused"
"they came with threat, she refused and said if she dies she dies, its someone that will make do the right thing"

Go and listen to her videos on YouTube and Facebook

And walk in the street of Abia state and investigate ordinary people if they are happy about the Governor Or not
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by Rindo69: 7:30am On Mar 02
seunowa:
One question you need to ask yourself is if that tik tok video is real-time because many of you have slow and low understanding.
I think you lack more understanding and they have used real-time as the buzz word. The actual technology stores the results on the devices even in areas with "limited internet" and once they get to an area with adequate connectivity, the device then uploads the result!

No one cares about real time or delayed time , what we care about is that the result captured on the IREV is the result transmitted from the polling unit. Rigging occurs due to manual changes in the result sheet between polling unit and collation centre!!! This is what the Politicians want to retain.

I hope i have educated you at least so you don't get your learning from your idols, Reno and Seyi law!


Let me elaborate a bit cos you may not comprehend all I have written.

You do not need real time transmission from the polling unit to your phone to tell you results. INEC has servers which everyone can access and refresh to receive the results that have been uploaded to IREV

"Limited internet" has been planned for by INEC. In areas with strong network, the result sheet captured is instantly transmitted to the server.

In areas with poor internet, the result is stored on the device and transmits itself once it gets good service.

Even your live football matches, emails, or even the live news you watch isn't "real-time". There is a lag which can be up to a few milliseconds or longer (called latency). So consider the poor internet as latency and those results will hit the server late but it will eventually get there.

Don't let them muddle up the conversation with real time and unreal time...that isnt the spirit of the technology.

Ire oooo
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by Procontractor(m): 8:24am On Mar 02
When will these political leaders stop talking to Nigerians in this demeaning manner? addressing a country of over 200 million people as if we all are uninformed. A former Inec personel came out to reveal that each polling unit in Nigeria has network. And so why can't you upload results from the polling units. They are taking us for a fool. Even if there's no network there as they said, the captured information will automatically upload at the local government collation Centre. Is there no network there too?


Why is electronic voting not being considered. The machines have that feature. Anybody that can use a smart phone am certain will choose to vote electronically in the poling boot, not some website. They scraped that option and yet they bought machines that can do that.

Millions of Nigerians will opt to use that feature, vote with the machine and automatically the result is saved and transmitted.

Then the people who opted for manual voting will be provided ballot papers. This ballot papers will be specifically for voters who have identified to vote manually to avoid printing for people voting electronically too, thereby giving room for mass thmbprinting.


We all are watching, once beating twice shy.



GOZOK.
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by seunowa(f): 9:20am On Mar 02
Rindo69:
I think you lack more understanding and they have used real-time as the buzz word. The actual technology stores the results on the devices even in areas with "limited internet" and once they get to an area with adequate connectivity, the device then uploads the result!

No one cares about real time or delayed time , what we care about is that the result captured on the IREV is the result transmitted from the polling unit. Rigging occurs due to manual changes in the result sheet between polling unit and collation centre!!! This is what the Politicians want to retain.

I hope i have educated you at least so you don't get your learning from your idols, Reno and Seyi law!


Let me elaborate a bit cos you may not comprehend all I have written.

You do not need real time transmission from the polling unit to your phone to tell you results. INEC has servers which everyone can access and refresh to receive the results that have been uploaded to IREV

"Limited internet" has been planned for by INEC. In areas with strong network, the result sheet captured is instantly transmitted to the server.

In areas with poor internet, the result is stored on the device and transmits itself once it gets good service.

Even your live football matches, emails, or even the live news you watch isn't "real-time". There is a lag which can be up to a few milliseconds or longer (called latency). So consider the poor internet as latency and those results will hit the server late but it will eventually get there.

Don't let them muddle up the conversation with real time and unreal time...that isnt the spirit of the technology.

Ire oooo
The problem with many of you is that you allow your emotion to think for you. And once your emotion controls your thoughts, irrationality and misinformation become the order of the day. You could hear what the opposition parties were clamouring, mandatory real-time e-transmission of results. Then, what is the position of the National Assembly to this proposition? The National Assembly said yes there will electronic transmission of results but the phrase " mandatory real-time" should be expunged in order to avert litigations at the tribunals.

Look at what you suggested "The actual technology stores the results on the devices even in areas with "limited internet" and once they get to an area with adequate connectivity, the device then uploads the result". Opposition figures are shouting for mandatory real-time e-transmission but you are saying real-time is not longer necessary. Is electronic transmission of results not in the amended electoral law?

Is your submission not the position of the National Assembly? Is your submission real-time? The National Assembly is saying that mandatory real time transmission should be jettisoned as not every part of Nigeria has Internet penetration but where there is Internet connectivity, real-time transmission is possible such as Abuja, Lagos etc.
Because of these obvious challenges, the National Assembly came up with form EC8A as a backup in an area with limited Internet connectivity.
The council election in Abuja, were the results not transmitted electronically? Or is every part of Nigeria, Abuja or Lagos? Don't let your emotion speak, give your brain chance to speak.
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by phemray(m): 11:39am On Mar 02
Brendaniel:
The same AI tells you who was the president of American in 1929 and you believe it, but rejecting information of Peter Obi from the same AI...

it is well...
It's some set of people that updates such information to Internet and AI has no facilities to detect falsehood information that comes first.
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by Brendaniel: 11:45am On Mar 02
phemray:
It's some set of people that updates such information to Internet and AI has no facilities to detect falsehood information that comes first.
So you are saying all the updates on the internet are falsehood ?

So the AI cannot detect truth updated?

Abegi!
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by Brendaniel: 11:47am On Mar 02
seunowa:
The problem with many of you is that you allow your emotion to think for you. And once your emotion controls your thoughts, irrationality and misinformation become the order of the day. You could hear what the opposition parties were clamouring, mandatory real-time e-transmission of results. Then, what is the position of the National Assembly to this proposition? The National Assembly said yes there will electronic transmission of results but the phrase " mandatory real-time" should be expunged in order to avert litigations at the tribunals.

Look at what you suggested "The actual technology stores the results on the devices even in areas with "limited internet" and once they get to an area with adequate connectivity, the device then uploads the result". Opposition figures are shouting for mandatory real-time e-transmission but you are saying real-time is not longer necessary. Is electronic transmission of results not in the amended electoral law?

Is your submission not the position of the National Assembly? Is your submission real-time? The National Assembly is saying that mandatory real time transmission should be jettisoned as not every part of Nigeria has Internet penetration but where there is Internet connectivity, real-time transmission is possible such as Abuja, Lagos etc.
Because of these obvious challenges, the National Assembly came up with form EC8A as a backup in an area with limited Internet connectivity.
The council election in Abuja, were the results not transmitted electronically? Or is every part of Nigeria, Abuja or Lagos? Don't let your emotion speak, give your brain chance to speak.
And the telcomms said every part of Nigeria has internet penetration, so who is lying?

of course the national assembly...
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by seunowa(f): 1:47pm On Mar 02
Brendaniel:
And the telcomms said every part of Nigeria has internet penetration, so who is lying?

of course the national assembly...
And you believe what the telecommunication operators say.... grin
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by Brendaniel: 1:58pm On Mar 02
seunowa:
And you believe what the telecommunication operators say.... grin
No I should believe the ones who said electricity has improved in Nigeria?
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by akpumping7720(m): 8:05pm On Mar 02
Nextjs:
Like i said if there is no network in the said area. The adhoc staff or electoral officer can snap the ec8 form and and send. When he leaves the interior villages where he went to anytime network os restored, it sent automatically.


We do it on Facebook, Instagram etc. And the past INEC chairman said the BVAS was configured like this and in 2022 prior to the elections he said results will be transmitted electronically.

In which Senate and house members result came in electronically and only presidential was affected by " glitches " according to INEC


Nigerians must resist the attempt to move elections result to collection centres.


The election in Abia state is an example. Where the returning officer (Professor Nnennaya Oti)
was asked to amend the results.

She said " they came with offers in billions she refused"
"they came with threat, she refused and said if she dies she dies, its someone that will make do the right thing"

Go and listen to her videos on YouTube and Facebook

And walk in the street of Abia state and investigate ordinary people if they are happy about the Governor Or not
You are still not getting; whatever will make you wait for network so that you can transmit data is no longer real time. Along the line, where the ad hoc staff snaps and wait for network in remote villages, something can happen within that few minutes. The best bet is for every contesting parties to have party agents in every polling units around the countriee. After the counting votes, make sure the EC8 form is fully signed, snap it and send it to your situation room. That was how Tinubu was able to defeat Peter Obi in the last election.

APC has trusted agents in every nooks and crannies wherever we have polling units in this country.

While Obi was banking on popular cities like Lagos and Abuja; APC concentrated on remote villages that even those villages might not witness development in some years to come but ballot box will surely get to them during election period.
Re: Electoral Act: Why N’assembly Approved Electronic, Manual Transmission — Abbas by Mrexcell(m): 8:55am On Mar 03
elder1002:
CONFIDENCE LOVES SUNLIGHT ☀️. FEAR PREFERS “AFTER COLLATION” 😏

The most dangerous part of the new electoral bill is not electronic transmission 📱. That phrase was added to sound progressive 💁‍♀️. The real danger is this clause: “In the event of network issues or other transmission impediments, the manually completed and signed INEC result form shall serve as the official result” 📝.

That one sentence quietly does three things 🤔:
- It elevates paper over technology 📄
- It legalizes delay 🕰️
- It re-opens the exact loophole Nigerians have been suffering from 😔

So yes, it is electronic but with an escape route 🚪. Let’s bring this down from grammar to Nigerian street reality 🌆.

HOW ELECTIONS REALLY WORK ON THE STREET 🗣️
Election day 🌞. You wake up early 🕰️. You queue under sun ☀️. You vote 🗳️. Votes are counted in front of everyone 👥. Party agents agree 🤝. INEC writes it on EC8A 📝. At that moment, your vote is still alive 💪.

Then someone says: “Network no dey” 😏. Under this new law, that sentence is enough 🤷‍♂️. No upload 📤. No timestamp 🕰️. No public record 📊. Paper now becomes king again 👑 — and the result must travel 🚗.

AND ON THAT JOURNEY… 🚗
That EC8A can be 🤔:
- Taken “for verification” 🔍
- Cancelled and rewritten 📝
- Corrected without witnesses 😶
- Replaced with a cleaner version 💁‍♀️
- Declared invalid later 😔

By then, voters are already at home 🏠.

COLLATION CENTER REALITY 🏢
At ward and LGA collation 🤝:
- Police are present 👮
- Party big men are present 👔
- Ordinary voters are not 😔

This is where 🤔:
- Figures are “adjusted” 📊
- Results are “harmonized” 🤝
- Disputes are “settled” 🛠️
- Winners are “finalized” 🏆

All paper 📄. All legal ✅. All protected by that clause 🤐.

iREV STORY 📱
Hours later 🕰️. Sometimes days later 🕰️. Some results upload 📤. Some don’t 😔. Some never will 😶. When you ask: “Why didn’t my polling unit upload?” 🤔 The answer is ready-made: “Network issue” 😏. Conversation over 🙅‍♂️.

BVAS — STRONG WHEN IT SUITS THEM 🤖
BVAS works perfectly 😎:
- To stop accreditation 🚫
- To delay voters 🕰️
- To frustrate turnout 😔

But when it’s time to upload results? 📤 Suddenly it’s unreliable 😂. Funny how technology only fails after voting ends 😏.

WHY PEOPLE STOP VOTING 😔
Vote apathy is not laziness 😴. It is learned behaviour 🤓. People have learned this lesson: Your vote counts at the polling unit but changes on the road 😔. After two or three elections like this, people stay home 🏠.

WHY BALLOT SNATCHING STILL MAKES SENSE 😔
With this system 🤖:
- Disrupting voting still helps 😔
- Cancelling results still helps 😔
- Snatching ballot boxes still helps 😔

Because paper can always be rewritten later 📝.

THE BILLION-NAIRA INSULT 😡
Nigeria will spend billions 💸:
- On BVAS devices 🤖
- On election logistics 🚗
- On “technology-driven elections” 💻

Only for the final authority to rest on manual paper collation 📄. That is not reform 😔. That is expensive deception 😂. High-tech money 💸. Low-trust process 🤷‍♂️. You cannot run a 21st-century election on 19th-century trust 😏.

NOW ENTER 2027 🤔
2027 is not just another election year 🗳️. It is a pressure point 🤯. Nigeria is entering it with 😔:
- Deep voter fatigue 😴
- Rising hardship 😔
- A younger population that feels cheated 😡
- Shrinking trust in institutions 😔

In such an environment, election credibility is not optional , it is national stability infrastructure 🏗️. When elections lack credibility 😔:
- People withdraw 😔
- Losers reject results 😡
- Winners lack legitimacy 😔
- Courts replace ballots ⚖️
- Streets become louder than polling units 😡

That’s how instability starts — quietly 😔.

THE TRUTH NO ONE WANTS TO SAY 😏
If a party truly has 😎:
- Millions of supporters 👥
- Majority control 💪
- Nationwide popularity 🌎

Then real-time transmission should be proof, not a threat 😏. Transparency is not risky to the popular 💪. It is risky only to those who benefit from darkness 😔.

Nigerians are not asking for miracles ✨. They are asking for elections where 🤔:
- Votes don’t change while travelling 🚫
- Results don’t mature at collation centers 😏
- Winners don’t fear verification 🔍

This is not about party 🤝. It is about process 📊. Nations don’t collapse only through coups 😔. Some collapse quietly when citizens stop believing voting matters 😔.

If 2027 is to be peaceful, legitimate, and respected 🙏, transparency must move from promise to practice 💡. Sunlight is not the enemy of democracy ☀️. It is its only defense 🛡️. Good afternoon to all actual progressives 🇳🇬✊.
This is why it's very important for all opposition parties to have agents in all polling unit in nigeria let's see how their own signed result sheets they documented will be changed at the collation centres.
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