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Chill friend! If you guys were the real deal I would have become a JW member, even before you were born . I have been reading your literatures, and have listened to you guys' teachings. I have observed you guys too. Road no de for una side. I have been dealing with you guys since I was a kid. My granny is one of you. Although she is a sweet old lady who doesn't hold tenaciously to your poison. My grandfather was once your member. I had an uncle who decided to stick with you guys, and he turned out badly.

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly as Jesus said you will call us {Matthew 10:24-25} when all your false doctrines fall before us and our faith remains unshakable! Isaiah 54:17🙂

OctavianAC:
Jonadab! Jesus did said he will found an organization, he said "thou art rock and on this rock I shall build my church. Not churches, not organization(s).

Why not remind me what Jesus said his church will achieve in the world that is controlled by Satan and figure out any religion that's meeting up today apart from Jehovah's Witnesses? Act 1:8🙂

Unlike you i love to be among those the true God said they will not swear a false oath by his name! Psalms 24:3-4

Which church doesn't join you people in reciting the worldly national anthem that leads you people into killing your fellow worshipers willingly?

Ọmọ nah only Jehovah's Witnesses o!

That's what i found among Jehovah's Witnesses! John 13:34-35🙂

Arostar2023:
Chill friend! If you guys were the real deal I would have become a JW member, even before you were born . I have been reading your literatures, and have listened to you guys' teachings. I have observed you guys too. Road no de for una side. I have been dealing with you guys since I was a kid. My granny is one of you. Although she is a sweet old lady who doesn't hold tenaciously to your poison. My grandfather was once your member. I had an uncle who decided to stick with you guys, and he turned out badly.

MaxInDHouse:
Why not remind me what Jesus said his church will achieve in the world that is controlled by Satan and figure out any religion that's meeting up today apart from Jehovah's Witnesses? Act 1:8🙂

Acts 1:8? Show me one Jehovah witness's member that works with the power of the Holy Ghost, fulfilling Jesus's prophecy that signs and wonders shall follow us (Christians).

OctavianAC:
Acts 1:8? Show me one Jehovah witness's member that works with the power of the Holy Ghost, fulfilling Jesus's prophecy that signs and wonders shall follow us (Christians).

Funny Churchian!
Please what exactly is the work (fruit) of God's holy spirit?🙂

The scriptures explained clearly that the holy spirit has two facets which are the GIFTs and FRUIT of the holy spirit.

Just as trees have lots of gifts but just one particular fruit, for instance some trees has gifts like huge leaves, thick branches, fat stem and strong roots so we can rest under such a tree in a hot weather, we can get oxygen from its leaves, we can peel its body or cut its root for medicine and so on but the tree will produce just one type of fruit.
So if care is not taken you will mistake a tree for another due to the same type of GIFTS found in different trees but the FRUIT can only be found in one particular type of tree.
You people are confused about this as you go about jumping from one religion to another due to GIFTS that different spirits has as these spirits are gathering worshipers for themselves.

Please can you tell me a religion that is totally void of supernatural acts?

Or do you think if there is nothing supernatural in a religion humans will be attracted to it?

Well for your information demons are behind false religions and they know what people like you are looking for so they will disguise as angels of light {2Corinthians 11:14} and show you what you want to see which is GIFTS that could be found in all kinds of religion but as for the FRUIT of each religion that is what they hide from you because no demon can produce the FRUIT of God's holy spirit.

That is why Jesus said it's by their FRUITS (not GIFTS) you will distinguish between true and false religions! Matthew 7:16-18

So i ask you again Mr/Mrs Octavia:

What is the FRUIT of God's holy spirit?🙂

Satan knew very well how easily humans are attracted to supernatural acts and that's normal because you will love to use such powers to solve your numerous problems.

So Satan keeps on multiplying religions in the name of Jesus/Christ/Church of God and backing each with a demon who will be the one performing the signs.

In the early 70s to late 80s we used to watch magicians performing on TV and calling people to come and watch their shows just as other entertainers likewise does but the economic condition is worsening so entertainers have to look for other means of making money either by looking for jobs or upgrading their level of attraction. That is what led many magicians into your Churches today as they are now performing while you pay tithes in millions just to be entertained!

If you doubt me please answer this question:

Where are the magicians we used to watch back in those days?

Are there no more magicians today?

Has Satan and his demons given up on magic?

Well the answer is simple they are now in your churches today.

Each demon will connive with an agent and they are good to go but as they renew their powers demons ask for what the agents will give back in return for the power given to them that's why you notice that after some time the so called miracles you heard about one religion (church) will easily fade away because the agent doesn't have the liver to continue renewing their contract after gathering faithless crowds who are now their followers enriching them. But when the agents realize that followers are no longer numerous as they use to be they will go back and renew their contract.

Let those who have ears listen!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Funny Churchian!
Please what exactly is the work (fruit) of God's holy spirit?🙂

The scriptures explained clearly that the holy spirit has two facets which are the GIFTs and FRUIT of the holy spirit.

Just as trees have lots of gifts but just one particular fruit, for instance some trees has gifts like huge leaves, thick branches, fat stem and strong roots so we can rest under such a tree in a hot weather, we can get oxygen from its leaves, we can peel its body or cut its root for medicine and so on but the tree will produce just one type of fruit.
So if care is not taken you will mistake a tree for another due to the same type of GIFTS found in different trees but the FRUIT can only be found in one particular type of tree.
You people are confused about this as you go about jumping from one religion to another due to GIFTS that different spirits has as these spirits are gathering worshipers for themselves.

Please can you tell me a religion that is totally void of supernatural acts?

Or do you think if there is nothing supernatural in a religion humans will be attracted to it?

Well for your information demons are behind false religions and they know what people like you are looking for so they will disguise as angels of light {2Corinthians 11:14} and show you what you want to see which is GIFTS that could be found in all kinds of religion but as for the FRUIT of each religion that is what they hide from you because no demon can produce the FRUIT of God's holy spirit.

That is why Jesus said it's by their FRUITS (not GIFTS) you will distinguish between true and false religions! Matthew 7:16-18

So i ask you again Mr/Mrs Octavia:

What is the FRUIT of God's holy spirit?🙂

What and how do I reply you. Your epistle is too long. I couldn't read it.

OctavianAC:
What and how do I reply you. Your epistle is too long. I couldn't read it.

The epistle is for the wise ones so the question you are to answer is:

What exactly is the FRUIT/WORK of God's holy spirit?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
The epistle is for the wise ones so the question you are to answer is:

What exactly is the FRUIT/WORK of God's holy spirit?🙂

All good fruit and work, including prophecies, visions, active dreams, speaking diverse tongues, interpretation of tongues, healing and the working of miracles,

OctavianAC:
All good fruit and work, including prophecies, visions, active dreams, speaking diverse tongues, interpretation of tongues, healing and the working of miracles,

Can you explain what Paul is saying here:

The FRUIT of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23

Yesterday when I saw this post, I was disappointed because the article is incorrect and they are putting word in their mouth by claiming GAFCON wanted to elect their primus inter pares (first amongst equals) to rival Canterbury.
Below is the press release of the direction GAFCON chooses to tread.


A COUNCIL TO LEAD THE COMMUNION.

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

As we develop new structures for the Global Anglican Communion, the Gafcon Primates have dissolved the Gafcon Primates Council, which has faithfully led and served the Gafcon movement since 2008.

In a world where most organizations and individuals are concerned about keeping power and authority, the Gafcon Primates Council has made an unprecedented decision to share its stewardship of the Global Anglican Communion by creating the Global Anglican Council which includes primates, advisors, and guarantors, which will include bishops, clergy, and lay members each with full voting privileges.

This expanded Council reflects the willingness of the Primates to share their authority with a wider group of global Anglican leaders, both lay and clergy. While the Chairman of the Council will be a Primate, he will not be primus inter pares (first amongst equals).

Believing that the current Instruments of Communion no longer meet the needs of the majority of Anglicans around the world, the Global Anglican Communion is to be led by a conciliar structure. The Global Anglican Council has discerned that if we are to move past old structures, we must leave behind old titles as well.

I am also pleased to announce that Archbishop Laurent Mbanda was unanimously elected as Chairman of the Global Anglican Council, likewise Archbishop Miguel Uchoa was unanimously elected as Vice- Chairman and myself, Bishop Paul Donison, as General Secretary. Our terms will conclude at the end of GAFCON V in Athens in 2028.

Furthermore, the Council determined that Primates who retire from their Provincial office between GAFCON Assemblies may remain on the Council until the conclusion of the next GAFCON Assembly.

Today is a historic day for the Global Anglican Communion.

Indeed, the future has arrived!

Yours in Christ,
The Rt Revd Paul Donison
Gafcon General Secretary
Thursday, March 5, 2026

OctavianAC:
You are not of the world 🌎 means, you shouldn't be part of worldly things like too much fashion, over drinking, et cetera.

Remember you are the light of the world. How do shine if you continue to allow those in darkness to rule over you.

That is why the Bible urge us to pray for the government and those in government and be in politics if possible?

I hope you are not are JW?

1 Timothy 2:1-4
First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Proverbs 11:14.
Where there is no guidance, a people falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety.

Romans 13:1 ESV
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

Proverbs 21:1
The king's heart is a stream of water in the hand of the Lord; he turns it wherever he will.

2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

1 Timothy 2:1-2
First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.

Jeremiah 29:7
But seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the Lord on its behalf, for in its welfare you will find your welfare.

Psalm 22:28 ESV
For kingship belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations.

1 Peter 2:13-17
Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Titus 3:1-2
Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.

Job 12:23-25
He makes nations great, and he destroys them; he enlarges nations, and leads them away. He takes away understanding from the chiefs of the people of the earth and makes them wander in a trackless waste. They grope in the dark without light, and he makes them stagger like a drunken man.

1 Peter 2:17 ESV
Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

1 Peter 2:13-14
Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good.

Titus 3:1
Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work.

1 Timothy 2:1-3
First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,

In all the verses that you've quoted, where does the Bible tell you to "be in politics if possible" According to your statement?

OctavianAC:
If you think you know the scriptures better than those who compiled it and were using it for centuries before you found it, then your sons must surely tell you that they know it better than you.

This is why you often have a lot of splitter groups within a splitter. Jesus said abide in me and I will abide in you. I pray that they (you) may be one. John 17:22. Go back to your root and let Jesus's prayer for you and his church work. You can help Jesus and make his church be one.

How did Jesus and his disciples show example when it comes to participating in politics? What political campaign did Jesus and his disciples champion?