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helinues:
Boss, you are the one shifting here oo. You can't say you haven't read about the bandits using drones for surveillance, probably for attacking self.

Infact , I saw a news of a man arrested for being the supplier of drones to the bandits

So how should Nigeria protect her territory with drones from terrorists? Ground system or air system?

I am not shifitng anything, you shifted.

Initially you mentioned kidnappers. Where have you heard that people were kidnapped using drones??

So you shifted to bandits and I asked you how many times have you heard of bandits using drones and what type of drones were they using.

The use of drones by bandits is a very recent phenomenon and the bandits are using cheap quodcopters, not sophisticated drones. The quodcopters can easily be shot down with simple rifles. It's got nothing to do with the air defence systems that are on this thread

Please don't shift the goalpost again.

Nostalemate:
Laughable peace
not so good points to the bolded... anything worth doing requires doing well.

Shout-out to all chess players on Nairaland earning good money via the game.

Any country whose aircraft can reach us without us taking those aircraft out will easily sidestep whatever air defense system we have. Note that no country on the continent is on that list.

Iran spent billions on air defense, didn't stop then from getting bombed, same with Isreal, Saudi Arabia, UAE etc

People are just desperate to write something negative, even if they don't understand what they are writing about.

First it was that Nigeria did not have air defence systems (and they mocked the country for not having air defence systems), which is a lie

Now it's that Nigeria does not need air defence systems.

naptu2:
There is a big difference between these statements:

1) I don't know.

2) I have not heard.

And

3) There is no. . .


Nigerians enjoy saying bad things about their country and one of the ways they do this is to say the 3rd statement, when the true statements would have been numbers 1 or 2.

I'll give you an example with an old Nairaland thread.

A person from the UK came to Nairaland to ask if Nigeria has privacy laws. He was thinking of starting a detective agency and he wanted to know the limitations that the law would place on him.

My God, you should have seen the responses! "There is no such thing in Nigeria", "Have Nigerians ever heard of privacy"? One even said that it was a funny question.

Meanwhile, the right to private family life is right there in the constitution (which is quite relevant because the person was talking about things like cheating spouse, etc). Of course I posted the relevant sections on the thread. It was only me and two other people that were making sense on the thread.

One of the people that said that there were no privacy laws in Nigeria refused to take correction. She was all over the place, writing all kinds of weird things. One of the other guys decided to argue with her and force her to admit that she was wrong, but I had no energy for that kind of thing.

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The latest example, in the past few years, have to do with Nigeria's air defence systems.

There are people that take joy in proclaiming that Nigeria has no air defence system. Meanwhile, I knew Nigeria's air defence systems 40 years ago o! Yet we are in 2026 and these funny people are not ashamed to ignorantly proclaim that Nigeria has no air defence system.

Anyway, my curiosity began in the early 1980s when someone that was in the Navy told me that the Navy's surface to air missiles were kept at a certain location in Apapa.

Of course I've told you many times about Kainji Dam. Military governments were obsessed with protecting our national assets and so I knew 40 years ago (1986) that there was an air base in Kainji, there was an army base there and several of these air defence systems were placed at Kainji to protect the dam from air attacks. That's 40 years ago o!

In fact do you remember the German air defence system that I often post about here (the anti-spam bot hates its name)? One of the reasons why I liked it was because it reminded me of one of the Nigerian air defence systems.

Remember that this was during the Cold War, so we had some systems from the west (France and Germany) and some systems from the east (Soviet Union).

For example, we had the Roland Air Defence System (anti-missile missile) from the west and the Shilka Air Defence System (anti-missile and anti-air craft gun).

That was 40 years ago.

Base on the present happenings in the world, the air defense system needs to be updated. However our ground troop need to do alot by flushing internal terrorists and kidnappers.

How many missiles can it stop before we run out of defense systems.

naptu2:
I am not shifitng anything, you shifted.

Initially you mentioned kidnappers. Where have you heard that people were kidnapped using drones??

So you shifted to bandits and I asked you how many times have you heard of bandits using drones and what type of drones were they using.

The use of drones by bandits is a very recent phenomenon and the bandits are using cheap quodcopters, not sophisticated drones. The quodcopters can easily be shot down with simple rifles. It's got nothing to do with the air defence systems that are on this thread

Please don't shift the goalpost again.

Kidnappers, bandits are they not criminals? Must all the criminals be listed in one comments? Go through this thread and see people relaying same thing I said above.

The point it, our defense system whether air or ground have been useless because if not, the miscreants who are just in their low number can't be causing havoc is some part of the countries.

helinues:
Boss, you are the one shifting here oo. You can't say you haven't read about the bandits using drones for surveillance, probably for attacking self.

Infact , I saw a news of a man arrested for being the supplier of drones to the bandits

So how should Nigeria protect her territory with drones from terrorists? Ground system or air system?

Who uses quodcopters to attack anyone?

Even the most advance defense systems will be ineffective against these small drones. Which is why in cases of these the handheld anti-drone jammers are more effective

helinues:
Kidnappers, bandits are they not criminals? Must all the criminals be listed in one comments? Go through this thread and see people relaying same thing I said above.

The point it, our defense system whether air or ground have been useless because if not, the miscreants who are just in their low number can't be causing havoc is some part of the countries.

So you use air defence system for armed robbers, because armed robbers are criminals.

So if an armed robber robs your house then it means that air defence system has failed?

JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH!

Who can I see please.

I just build a very powerful Air Defence System. Very cost effective.

It is powered by Water, Salt and Kerosene.

I know a lot of you will think Im joking. No be everything be joke o.

It can only work perfectly in the night. It has laser light that must not see sunlight. Else, the whole battalion of soldiers around it will be blown up.

Please advise me.

naptu2:
So you use air defence system for armed robbers, because armed robbers are criminals.

So if an armed robber robs your house then it means that air defence system has failed?

JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH!

Boss, rest, not all arguments you can win after all, I am not alone with my opinion on this thread

We need improvement in our defense system whether ground or air

EOD

helinues:
Kidnappers, bandits are they not criminals? Must all the criminals be listed in one comments? Go through this thread and see people relaying same thing I said above.

The point it, our defense system whether air or ground have been useless because if not, the miscreants who are just in their low number can't be causing havoc is some part of the countries.

The topic says Air defense system. When have you remembered Nigeria having an insecurity by air?

Handheld drones are not included in this because these are merely surveillance tools and not attack capable

Mynd44:
Any country whose aircraft can reach us without us taking those aircraft out will easily sidestep whatever air defense system we have. Note that no country on the continent is on that list.

Iran spent billions on air defense, didn't stop then from getting bombed, same with Isreal, Saudi Arabia, UAE etc

In 1999 many people (including Professor Wole Soyinka) said that Nigeria did not need a military. They said that nobody was coming to attack us and that the military only stage coups. I was alarmed.

Today, without our military, Boko Haram would have been in control of Lagos, Port-Harcourt, Abuja, Enugu and other cities.

The point is that you don't prepare for what is on ground today, you prepare for what could be on ground tomorrow.

Iran spent a lot on its military, it didn't stop them from getting bombed, but it has so far stopped them from collapsing and it has made the exercise painful for its enemies (which increases its chances of survival).

helinues:
Boss, rest, not all arguments you can win after all, I am not alone with my opinion on this thread

We need improvement in our defense system whether ground or air

EOD

You argument is like someone saying that he has bought a car and another person replying that it has not stopped Nepa from taking light. There is no correlation.

Mynd44:
The topic says Air defense system. When have you remembered Nigeria having an insecurity by air?

Handheld drones are not included in this because these are merely surveillance tools and not attack capable

Oh, so there are no drones that can attack people? Chai

The same air force that have been mistaken the citizens for criminals with the air defense

How many are the miscreants causing havoc across the country?

Whether past or present president, they have all failed in terms of security

helinues:
Oh, so there are no drones that can attack people? Chai

The same air force that have been mistaken the citizens for criminals with the air defense

How many are the miscreants causing havoc across the country?

Whether past or present president, they have all failed in terms of security

You raise the point of quodcopters do you understand that Nigeria has issued the EDM4S SkyWiper and Greetwin 8 anti-drone jammer to troops to engage drones used by bandits?

Picture 1 and 2 are of the EDM4S SkyWiper

3 and 4 are of the Greetwin 8 anti-drone jammer

Nice gadgets there OP. If they are still usable, they should be put into good use

helinues:
Oh, so there are no drones that can attack people? Chai

The same air force that have been mistaken the citizens for criminals with the air defense

How many are the miscreants causing havoc across the country?

Whether past or present president, they have all failed in terms of security

I have followed your comments on this thread and so glad to see you’re saying it has it is.

naptu2:
In 1999 many people (including Professor Wole Soyinka) said that Nigeria did not need a military. They said that nobody was coming to attack us and that the military only stage coups. I was alarmed.

Today, without our military, Boko Haram would have been in control of Lagos, Port-Harcourt, Abuja, Enugu and other cities.

The point is that you don't prepare for what is on ground today, you prepare for what could be on ground tomorrow.

Iran spent a lot on its military, it didn't stop them from getting bombed, but it has so far stopped them from collapsing and it has made the exercise painful for its enemies (which increases its chances of survival).

I have not mentioned military spending or defense budgets. I agree with increased capacity of the Navy (the falcon eye system has done wonders), upgrading the capacity of aircraft's, tanks and personnel carriers along with equipping soldiers better but when people put an air defense system above all this, I don’t agree.

Air defense system's effectiveness is low even in places like America, China and Russia. They rely more on actually aircrafts that "hitting a bullet with a bullet" mentality that an air defense system does.

Mynd44:
I have not mentioned military spending or defense budgets. I agree with increased capacity of the Navy (the falcon eye system has done wonders), upgrading the capacity of aircraft's, tanks and personnel carriers along with equipping soldiers better but when people put an air defense system above all this, I don’t agree.

Air defense system's effectiveness is low even in places like America, China and Russia. They rely more on actually aircrafts that "hitting a bullet with a bullet" mentality that an air defense system does.

I am not saying that air defense systems should be above other equipment. They go hand in hand.

And although anti-missile missiles are once again popular (like they were in 1991) because or the war in Iran, they are not the only component of an air defence system.

MTRACON is being developed to provide total military radar coverage of Nigeria and this is also so that war planes can respond to threats. That's why I included radar systems in my list.

Mynd44:
I have not mentioned military spending or defense budgets. I agree with increased capacity of the Navy (the falcon eye system has done wonders), upgrading the capacity of aircraft's, tanks and personnel carriers along with equipping soldiers better but when people put an air defense system above all this, I don’t agree.

Air defense system's effectiveness is low even in places like America, China and Russia. They rely more on actually aircrafts that "hitting a bullet with a bullet" mentality that an air defense system does.

Well US air defense is not actually low…they just have a way of keeping their incidents out of the headlines except it’s a major incident that’s why you think it’s low. They are more active than you know.

madridguy:
My mind is now at peace knowing this.

Physician...heal thyself first and there will be peace in the land

A BIG RESPECT to Mr Naptu2 for all these wonderful, insightful and educative threads. Especially this one!

Thank you Sir!!

What Biafran soldiers could have done effortlessly with little funds

naptu2:
In 1999 many people (including Professor Wole Soyinka) said that Nigeria did not need a military. They said that nobody was coming to attack us and that the military only stage coups. I was alarmed.

Today, without our military, Boko Haram would have been in control of Lagos, Port-Harcourt, Abuja, Enugu and other cities.

They're also correct, Nigeria did not have international threat, since 1960 till date any problems we have with foreign power we usually solve them diplomatically or through international courts around the world, moreover a good and well equipped police can stop the internal security challenges we're having today like the book haram you mentioned. Nevertheless since we have money to acquire military equipment, I'm happy that they did it, because tomorrow is pregnant, no one knows what it holds.
Thanks.

Nigeria Air what... Una dey whine unaself.. Those ones just dey drink beer for mammy market..ordinary Niger na big threat

The first statement in your post is a lie. Nigeria had many international threats between 1960 and 1999 and Nigerian troops were involved in many such actions (and some died in battle).

UzorIyke:
They're also correct, Nigeria did not have international threat, since 1960 till date any problems we have with foreign power we usually solve them diplomatically or through international courts around the world, moreover a good and well equipped police can stop the internal security challenges we're having today like the book haram you mentioned. Nevertheless since we have money to acquire military equipment, I'm happy that they did it, because tomorrow is pregnant, no one knows what it holds.
Thanks.

This can't even defend knockout

Tinubu failed, its just as simple as that, and i've already lost hope in this country.

Oga, just as the country has crashed, that's how all those things can't move 1 inch to combat. Don't settle that that's why they've not reached Lagos or east... What you have shown is suppose to have pushed them(enemies of the State) back to the Nile... Rubbish. I'm a Son of the Air(or call me a BaseBoy, everything don rust because of bad governance especially considering the dates you started with in the preamble of this your super story). Nigeria should take an example n look at how the Ford Warship has been maintained, to how just this week it's positioned to peace up the world.